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Merchantgander
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It is close enough that we can have this tread. But unlike allot of the mayoral thread lets try to be honest and polite.

Three questions:

Who do you think will win?
By what percentage?
Who are you voting for? (It is possible to vote for someone and believe they won’t win.)
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Merchantgander
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1. KK will win
2. It will be a close race 52% KK 48% FH (I see a few recounts and lawsuits ensuing)
3. voting for Freman
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Bindetroit
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Ask Jackie Currie. She apparently holds the key to "winning" an election in Detroit.
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Ilovedetroit
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Jackie Currie is supporting Freman Hendrix. But I don't think she will do anything wrong on purpose (she is being watched to closely) -however, I would watch someone or persons in her office. I think she is too clueless to know what goes on. I have seen her at a couple of events and her heard her speak over the years and she seems kinda "out there".

1. Kilpatrick will win. He keeps going on up and lets face it(I hate to tie the two together but...)he will get positive press this week with Rosa Park's funeral.
2. Very close race - I am thinking along the lines of Merchant. But maybe closer. Possibly even by 1-2% w/ recounts.
3. Kilpatrick.
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Jonesy
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1) Hendrix will win. His supporters are the people most likely to vote; seniors and property owners.

2) Hendrix 53%-Kilpatrick 47%

3) I'm not voting for Kwame. He did nothing in his first 3 years to prevent the financial crisis the City is in. I pay more in taxes now, than I did four years ago. And I'm receiving less in city services. Therefore, I’m voting for Freman.
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Mellodrama
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KK will win.. Freman is an empty suit and simply lacks the caliber and substance to handle this job...... he is out of his element and offers nothing over than a tired equation of anybody but the mayor.

At the end of the day Freman does not add any captial to the city his upside is very marginal. KK can connect with the underclass better than Freman

Final Talley: KK: 51% FH: 49%
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65memories
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Hendrix
52 - 48
Hendrix...this city can't endure 4 more years of Kilpatrick.
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Detbest
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1. The winner will be Hendrix
2. His victory margin will be about 6-8 points
3. I'm voting for FH

Hendrix will win by taking a majority of the women voters and a majority of voters over 40, particulary a good number of voters in their 40s and 50s who voted for Kilpatrick in 2001.
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1. Hendrix will win
2. The race will be very close, within 3-5 points.
3. I'm voting for hendrix.
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Metrodetguy
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FH: 56%
KK: 44%
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Mrsjdaniels
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Henddrix - 54%
KK - 43%
Other/write in - 3%
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Danny
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That's right fellas Hendrix is going to win.


Hendrix 55%

KILLpatric 42%

with a 4% marjin of error. What a almost dead heat.

However, If Jackie Currie mess up the voting process. There will be a RECOUNT!
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Quinn
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Oh you Freloader guys are running scared...

KK - 49%
Freload - 46%
Other/write in - 5%

Sharon's endorsement + excessive watchdogging by feds and state officials of election process + live debates = kilpatrick re-election.

You freloaders shot your wad too early...

J
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Ilovedetroit
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F*%K YEAH! GO KILPATRICK!
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Shave
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I posted this on another thread. I think that what is stated in this young woman's post on the DetNews forum bares repeating on this thread as well:

Read this blip on the DetNews forum. I think that this young lady presented a very fair and balanced look at both sides of the Mayoral election. Provocative indeed:

Posted: Mon. 10/31/05 04:42 PM
From: darcy
City: , USA
Subject: Best choice for Detroit
Comments: Those that want to see Detroit thrive again, or at least come closer to a balanced way of life, need to look at the whole picture. Looking back at Kilpatrick’s three years, there are some that can say the he did the best under the circumstances. He had a learning curve, made mistakes, and now he can do the job better. Forgive and give him credit. Let him continue?
Then, there are those that are looking for a new approach, for a person that has been experienced with city budgets and on-goings. These are Hendrix supporters and Anyone-But-Kilpatrick supporters. They saw enough of Kilpatrick’s actions and hopeful dreams to realize that now is not the time for another 4 years with the current administration. They want change.

Those that want Detroit to thrive again should also look at the potential outcomes of the mayoral election. You have to really want to make Detroit live again, and love Detroit enough to make a wise choice for her outcome. Sometimes, this means you have to make a choice that is not for the candidate, but for your future on a whole in the city you live in.

If you may want to give Kilpatrick another chance, think of all the people that will be totally be opposed if he does become mayor. Think of these as more people that will move out of Detroit because he is mayor. It doesn’t matter if he may turn the city around in the next few years and that you want to give him a chance. These ABK people will not be here. It will make many that can afford to leave the city to actually move out of the city. Not the poor, but the ones that are actually tax paying conscientious citizens. It’s really hard to accept that the future Detroit may become a city of poor people with even less tax revenue for city services.

If Hendrix becomes mayor, there will be people that are at least hopeful that Detroit will survive. These are the people that want Detroit to survive, and not to give “let’s give y’all’s” boy a reason to survive. It’s time to separate the candidates, in terms of the final outcome for the city’s benefit. Kilpatrick, under different circumstances, could be adequate during the next four years for the city of Detroit. But choosing Kilpatrick is not conducive for the current time.

Many may not want to change and may not want to go with the new person, Hendrix. Others may like Kilpatrick with his salesman personality. But when you go to vote, vote for Detroit, and not the candidate. Kilpatrick has promised much last time during his campaign, and fulfilled only a fraction that resulted in a ballooning deficit for the city. How much will he get done in the next four years for the WHOLE Detroit versus for a few sub-sections, or a few selected people, of the city and at what cost?

Can Detroit afford this?
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Ilovedetroit
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EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW That changes my mind. NOT! Same old tired spin no plan from Hendrix. Media destroying Kilpatrick.

I hear that Crain's Detroit is endorsing Kilpatrick.
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quote:

I hear that Crain's Detroit is endorsing Kilpatrick.


That is false.

Crain's Detroit Business endorsed neither candidate. However, they had two editorials, one from the publisher, and one from the asst. publisher. The first endorsed Hendrix, the second Kilpatrick.

(Message edited by lurker on October 31, 2005)
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Ilovedetroit
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Still an endorsement from someone who is smart. The first one lives in Detroit Towers...I know them - nuff said about their endorsement they live next to Archer. Cocktails and appetizers will do it for you.
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Brian
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If the loser wants and tries to do a recount they will end up sending Curry and her staff to prison.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Good. She should already be there
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Hendrix 51%
King Kwame 43%
Voting for Hendrix
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Jonesy
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Bostedguy-

Thanks for getting this thread back on track.
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Lowell
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Too close to call.
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Detroit voters are smart!

The Mayor 52%
Mr. Hendrix 48% (thanks to the media)
The Mayor (we gonna party like it's 2002 oops! sssssh)

super d(motordetroit)
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E_hemingway
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This isn't as close as so many people think
Hendrix 55 percent
Kilpatrick 43 percent
Write-in candidates 1-2 percent

Too many people are focusing on too few polls that show this is close. Most of the recent polls show Hendrix with a sizable lead.

One thing that stood out in those polls is that a majority of Detroiters want to have good relations with the suburbs and a sound plan to move the city forward. The general concensus is that Hendrix is much more likely to make those things happen. This will be the sleeper issue in the election. The tired tactic of us vs them that is so often used in Detroit politics won't work this time.

Hendrix has proven to be a pretty disciplined politician who is not prone to make mistakes. That isn't Kilpatrick. And that's why Hendrix will win.
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Hendrix 52%

Kilpatrick 47%

Coleman Young 1% (the nostalgia vote)
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Ilovedetroit
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I was checking out at Marshall Fields last night...and there were people there debating the election (two were clerks and three were customers). I of course chimed in...of the five chatting two were for Hendrix (one lived in Sterling Hgts.,) and the other three were for Kilpatrick. All of them lived in Detroit. Of the KK supporters all were older voters 55+ - they were all surprised that (you could see the look on their face) I was voting for KK. The gentleman (who worked there) was probably past 70 stated that he was glad that KK had cross racial appeal (he did not use those exact words but intent was there). The guy for Freman in Detroit was VERY angry with the city in general and did not like either one but he hated KK. The two women were staunchly for the mayor. The one stated that he was like her grandson who made mistakes but was doing well now - he just finished law school. Don't underestimate that sentiment with women and seniors.

Also there is still a lot of simmering anger out there over Hendrix's management of the school board....yes KK voted the wrong way...but he did not throw little old ladies out of meetings as Hendrix did and violate Michigan law but not following the open meetings act.
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Southwestmap
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Oh, please! Anecdotes and more anecdotes.

ILD is such a poor reporter of events that this little anecdote should be read as exactly opposite what she reports.
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Jonesy
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ILD-

Kwame's own polls show that he doesn't have the senior vote.
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Danny
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This board needs some ghetto art.



YAY!! GO HENDRIX!!!!
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Ilovedetroit
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Danny - The village idiot strikes again.
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Norm
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ILD,

Were you at the meetings that the "little old ladies" were thrown out of? They were extremely disruptive and never quieted down after many, many requests for them to quit down so the meeting could proceed. They were not denied their turn at the mike, they abused their turn at the mike.
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Ilovedetroit
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I was there. And I was disgusted at how they were forcibly removed - with one being dropped. And with Hendrix yelling the entire time...I have never seen anything so ugly as that day.
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65memories
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Norm is right on the mark, ILD. I happened to be there.
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Norm
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ILD,

DO you deny they were extremely disruptive at the meeting, regardless of the way they were removed?
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Ilovedetroit
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They were expressing their right to free speech. They were doing nothing illegal. And in the end the judge ruled in favor of them - esp. Ms Bowens. What matters is the legal ruling!
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Merchantgander
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Please take the mindless debate to another thread.
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Norm
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ILD,

You still did not answer my question - where the "little old ladies" being disruptive?

I never said what they were doing was illegal. Also, at what point does expressing your free speech become a nuisance at a publiuc meeting? What would you have done if you had repeatedly asked them to quiet down and they refused your request over and over. Cancel the meeting? Let the ladies talk for hours until everyone had left and gone home?

By the way, do you think they possible wanted to get escorted out to draw attention to their cause? Seems to me that's happened with other protests before.
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Ilovedetroit
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They won their lawsuit against Hendrix. The judge ruled in their favor. That is the answer. Being disruptive - no they were not. They were pissed off that they had lost their right to vote. In my opinion everyone there was a hero or heroine for voter's rights! Last I knew we were a democracy and the judge ruled against Hendrix and his motley crew.
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ILD - you keep saying "they (the disrupters that included infamous BAMN infiltrators)won their lawsuit" - what lawsuit? Please connect the dots. I don't frankly believe you.
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Llyn
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1. Hendrix
2. 53-47 (not counting write-ins)
3. Hendrix. Can't conscientiously vote for a man who views the tax dollars of poor black Detroiters as his own personal bank account.

For what it's worth (this should not be construed as any sort of scientific poll), many of the older citizens of my neighborhood that I speak with (black or white) are incredibly anti-Kwame.
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Too close to call. I don't trust the polls, they probably undercount the Mayor's votes - poorer, younger folks who might not have land lines. Remember he was trailing Gil Hill four years ago in the polls.

It's been a wild ride, I can't wait to find out where it ends.
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Naturalsister
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I'll go with my original thread starting prediction:

Kilpatrick.
by 7%.
Hendrix.

later - naturalsister
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4 years ago, the general election polls generally had KK ahead of Hill in the days leading up to the election. So the polls in that case were indeed correct.
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Gistok
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Hendrix 55%
Kilpatrick 45%
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Shave
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Hendrix...because he is soooo damned handsome...
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The_aram
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Hendrix
54-46
Not a Detroit voter, but I would vote for Hendrix
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Jmil
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Remember to vote early and often.
According to a chick named Jackie, death is no excuse for not voting.
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Leoqueen
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Hendrix will win. It will be close. I am voting for Hendrix.
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Gravitymachine
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i'm hoping hendrix, but.....

yesterday he was speending time getting the vote out to old ladies and such....while kwame was hittin up the younger, undecided people, and i fear that kwame's efforts will bear more fruit
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I voted....and I am no longer an undecided. I have decided to let Detroit make the decision. As everyone knows, I do not like either candidate. But I will say that I don't think either candidate will do anything to mess up the city within the next four years because they will be heavily watched and criticized for all of their actions.

As long as the next mayor does not directly affect me in a negative way, I will stay in Detroit and continue on, but if he does, I have other options as well.
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Damon
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HENDRIX will win!

HENDRIX 54% Killpatrick 46%
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Lowell
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Congrats to Merchantgander and Super_d for nailing it.

Kwame Kilpatrick 105,395 52%
Freman Hendrix 95,447 48%
96% reporting

Honorable mentions to Naturalsister and Quinn for close calls.

So how did you do it? What did you see/sense that the pollsters didn't?
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The pride and ego of Black Detroiters. That's what countless have told me on the boards recently. lol Record, facts, and honor be damned, they weren't going to let the suburbs decide their election for them.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 4:00 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whoops, looks like Naturalsister is pulling into first place with her 7% call.

Kwame Kilpatrick 117,354 53%
Freman Hendrix 103,446 47%
98% reporting
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Ilovedetroit
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Post Number: 1583
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 68.40.230.108
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 7:02 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lowell-
I actively campaigned for Kilpatrick and talked to people. The funny thing is that no one really like Hendrix. He just wasn't Kilpatrick. And you can't run an effective ABK camapaign...we saw that in the last election with Bush/Kerry. You NEED A PLAN. Hendrix really never had a plan. Most of us on here live in our little white Detroit world. The majority of this city is african american. And many of them saw through the fact that Hendrix did not have a plan. There was also this simmering anger that he would "sell out Detroit" - he sold us out once before with the school board.

I was chatting with someone who works in one of the city council person's offices at the poll yesterday. This CC person supported Hendrix. However, many of staff members did not of the CC person! They felt that Hendrix did not have the best interest of African Americans at heart. They also sited the school board and how he had black women dragged out of meetings.

At the end of the day the reasons I feel he lost.

1. Inabitlity to connect with the larger black community.
2. School board chairmanship.
3. Lack of a plan to re-develop and re-build Detroit.
4. Sharon McPhail's endorsement cemented the fact that many knew that Sharon has no real love for the mayor but that Hendrix must be really as bad as they suspected!
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Lowell
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It's official. Naturalsis' wins:

Kwame Kilpatrick 117,354 53%
Freman Hendrix 103,446 47%
100% reporting

The actual difference is 6.2% win for Kwame. Where shall we send your official guru crown?
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Naturalsister
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Post Number: 376
Registered: 11-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I work @ the Ren Cen! Call me when you are ready to crown me, Lowell.

313.259.5515

later - naturalsister
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Mellodrama
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Post Number: 245
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 4:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Excuse me I think I deserve the crown per my post#84 last week..

I cannot get any love in here maybe I becuase I am a smart, intelligent, brilliant, local icon and of course a threshold making centered colored guy.....lol,lol,lol,lol
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Naturalsister
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Mello!

My prediction was 7 weeks out.

LOL

later - naturalsister
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Norm
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Post Number: 25
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 6:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ILD,

Did you ever visit Hendrix' website? If so, you would know he had a plan for rejuventating the city. You may not have liked it, but he did have a plan.

Also, what was KK's plan beyond more of the same? I don't think people voted for Kilpatrick because of his plan. I think a lot of folks bought into the whole "media is out go get me because I'm a succesful black male" cry and ability to turn on the performance at the Rosa Parks funeral.
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Ilovedetroit
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Post Number: 1605
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 6:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm - I am not going to defend my candidate anymore - the voters have spoken. Have fun playing softball with Hendrix.

PS - I startd to read that plagiarized site and gave up a long time ago.
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Norm
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ILD,

What was plagarized on Hendrix's website? You made the accusation, now please back it up with specifics.

I also like the jab about softball.
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Gistok
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Post Number: 1423
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 7:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No Mello, you're not loved because of you are so pretentious!
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Mellodrama
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Post Number: 249
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Posted From: 68.41.179.85
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 8:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gistok,

Really?? People cannot handle my brillance is not my fault...lol,lol,lol
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Ilovedetroit
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 8:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think you are fabulous Mello and good at selecting mayoral candidates.
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Bratt
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Post Number: 347
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 8:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anybody know what Hendrix is going to do now?
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 10-2005
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No idea, although he said he will remain in Detroit
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Royce
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Posted From: 69.212.227.242
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I predict there won't be much to say on this thread after today. Finally.
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Norm
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 1:21 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ILD,

You still haven't answered my question: what on the Hendrix website was plagerized? Since you made the accusation, please supply the evidence.
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Lowell
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Post Number: 1880
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Mello, stop being a such drama queen and trying sponge on Natural[Nailed it]sis' celebrity. In post 84 you wrote "Final Talley [sic]: KK: 51% FH: 49%". Off by three points, not even enough for a medal, but I'll give you an honorable mention. You may now place HM after your name in you posts.
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Mellodrama
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 1:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lowell,

I hate accepting less than full credit and honors for my efforts ....As you know I travel in lofty atmospheres... however if you seek to acknowledge my celebrity even when I just offer up elemental brillance.... Then go for it mr.adminsitrator...lol,lol,lol
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Super_d
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Post Number: 318
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Thanks fo' tha' rec' "Lowell"

I'll take ma' 2nd place award in honor:-)

super d(motordetroit)
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Merchantgander
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Post Number: 1246
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 3:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Super_d you deserve 3rs place because i posted first.
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Lowell
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Naturalsister - Gold
Merchantgander - Silver
Super_d - Bronze

Please ascend the podium.
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Mellodrama
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 3:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lowell,

Hold on bedore that procession starts... I want my tin/copper recognition.....
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Gistok
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Mello, how about "diamond" .... to go along with that brilliance of yours!

(Do you ever dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back?)
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Mellodrama
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gistok,

That would hard to do given all the other hands I would have to run over just to reach my back...tee hee

PS; I loathe diamonds....lol,lol,lol
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Lurker
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thrasher?
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Ilovedetroit
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gistok - While I like what Mello has to say (for the most part) you really are starting to shine as a great humorist!