  Erikd Member Username: Erikd Post Number: 637 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.242.214.106 |
My last DDU was posted before SBXL hit Detroit. The insane pace of downtown development over the winter was almost impossible to keep up with, so I gave up on trying to post regular updates. Now that the downtown development has hit a more normal pace, I can try to keep up with my posts. ---------------------- I'll start off with the big news... Detroit will see two major projects start up this week. Greektown Casino has cleared out the parking garage and apartment building on Monroe, and demolition is slated to start on Monday. I won't go into any details right now, but there is another major project that is set to close this week. Keep an eye out for this development to hit the news this week. --------------------- In addition to the new construction of 3 permanent casinos, and other large project, the smaller downtown developments keep moving forward... Renovation of the old Monroe Bakery/Grocery building in Greektown started shortly after the Superbowl. They have removed all of the paint and facade treatments that have covered up this building for decades, and the restoration of the original brick facade has begun. In addition to the historic facade restoration, the rest of the building is getting a complete renovation and addition, including a new basement, roof, electrical, plumbing, HVAC, etc... In recent years, Detroit has been blasted for not doing projects like this. We constantly hear about the 100 downtown buildings that were slated for demolition before the Superbowl, we constantly hear about other cities that construct new buildings behind historic facades, and we constantly have people blasting Detroit because of these things. The local and national discussion will probably continue to play up the negative side of Detroit, and ignore the positive developments, but I will keep spotlighting the overlooked people and developments that are making Detroit a better city. ------------------- Now that my rant is over, let's get back to the new downtown development... The section of Brush, between Gratiot and Madison, has seen some nice developments over the last few years, with the restoration of a building by Ferlito, the new Hilton, and some exterior upgrades to the Music Hall. The good news continues with the current renovation of the old Madison Electric/Pegasus building. This building is getting a complete overhaul of the interior and exterior, and the word on the street is that it will become a new sports bar. The Courthouse Brasserie is also planning a facade restoration within the next few months. One of the most exciting recent developments is the work on the National Theatre. There was some work done prior to the SB, but the progress over the last few weeks looks great. The facade has been completely cleaned, the weeds have been cleared from the towers, and new exterior lighting has been added along the large arched front. ------------------- I will try to post some pics of these new developments in the near future. Development-atcha! | ||
Nellonfury Member Username: Nellonfury Post Number: 159 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 68.43.156.135 |
Great news about the downtown development Erikd! Have you heard any other news in downtown yet..including the grand opening of the One Kennedy Sq.,the RiverEast and Asain Village? | ||
Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field Post Number: 565 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.21.37.89 |
Erik, Has this large project been previously discussed or hinted at on the forum? | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6029 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.242.213.167 |
Nellon, One Kennedy Square is months away from opening. They're just starting on the build-out and the ground floor is literally dirt. Mind_field, no. This is something else. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 820 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.60.177.56 |
Work started on the Fort Shelby this week. Unfortunately the whole street smells like building mold now but hopefully that won't last. | ||
Llyn Member Username: Llyn Post Number: 1554 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206 |
They actually started work on it?! The Fort Shelby? Are they just doing a clean out, or are they starting actual renovation of the building? Thanks for the update erikd. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4919 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
Wednesday could be a very interesting day. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 821 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.60.177.56 |
Hard to say. It's been started and stopped so often. They were cleaning windows and taking down the barrier doors. Maybe they're going to tear that schitt down, who knows. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3820 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
The big development is the announcement by REDICO on what they've come up with in terms of development on the Woodward/Hudson Block. They will either introduce something, or ask for an extension, I figure, which seems likely, too. The city could deny them an extension and start from scratch, but that seems like it would be one of the most unlikely possibilities. | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 879 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
Dont they have until the end of June for that announcement?? Erikd is refering to something this week. | ||
Haydenth Member Username: Haydenth Post Number: 89 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 68.252.5.167 |
Talking about development news (and mold), does anyone know the status on the Argonaut building in New Center? I jog by the building frequently and the sidewalk along 2nd just reaks of raw sewage and mold (which is probably what killed the sidewalk trees). | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3821 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
MotorCity, it is June. Though, reading his post, again, it appears he's talking about something else. But, June 6 of this year is supposed to be an announcement by REDICO of what they are doing with the Hudson's block. | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 470 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 35.11.210.161 |
I was thinking the major project was the Book Caddy since it's supposed close in June also. But if it hasn't been discussed here then that disqualifies the BC. What exaclty is the story on National more cleanup or is the start of renovation? Either way it's good this gem is getting some attention | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 80 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.42.220.61 |
according to Emporis, the deadline is June 30 | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 1663 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 75.10.25.157 |
I agree with Lmich on what the big announcement will be. To add to Erikd's initial development overview, I'll add the good progress that is being made on the Vinton Building rehab. There is usually a buzz of workers around it everyday. One of my most anticipated projects that I'm waiting for to get going (something which has already been planned) is the Hotel Eddystone conversion. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4923 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
So if something isn't discussed on DYes, it isn't happening? This Forum is far from the center of vital discussion that it once was when it comes to upcoming development projects. | ||
Dan Member Username: Dan Post Number: 1227 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.47.194.247 |
Aram, Re-read the thread, that was not Eric's point. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2247 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.81.115 |
Being the eternal optimist.... as far as new development announcements go, I hope you're all right!! | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 471 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 35.11.210.161 |
Don't put words in my mouth I thought my point was pretty clear. All I said was if the project hasn't been dicussed then my guess of the BC is wrong since it's been mentioned on the forum before. | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 616 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 68.42.78.219 |
This isn't quite Downtown, but let me add the Museum set to open this fall across from the Garfield building http://www.mocadetroit.org/. | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 882 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
Lmichigan, Are you sure the REDICO announcement is the 6th? From other discussions on this site, and other media announcements the deadline was the very end of July... Speaking of a big announcement, anything ever come of the Masonic Temple development?? | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4927 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
Right on, Eric. Sorry. Read too quickly. | ||
Lexdetroitman_07 Member Username: Lexdetroitman_07 Post Number: 63 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 74.131.204.36 |
Great news!! Thanks Eric for the updates and keep spreading the good news!! Lexdetroitman_07 | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3822 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
Wait, did I get the date of the Redico announcement wrong? | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 884 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
It has always been posted as the end of June... Thats why I was hoping the "big announcement" later this week could be something else. | ||
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister Post Number: 705 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 70.8.249.71 |
I remembered a June 6th date too. http://www.michigan.gov/docume nts/briefing_127040_7.june.05. pdf later - naturalsister | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 712 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123 |
Projects that have been discussed on the forum that are expected to make announcements this summer: Book Cadillac restoration Tiger Stadium plan Rock Financial HQ plans Also, there are crews working on the Fort Shelby Hotel as of last week. They have been doing work on the building's exterior from what I can tell. There are a couple of hanging platforms on the side of the building. The finals plans for this project could be the big expected announcement. Other possibilities include Riverfront development plans, Hudson's site plan, mysterious Masonic Temple area development plans, Cass Tech rehab, Detroit Life Building rehab final plans and start date, Fine Arts Building plans, new Michigan Central Depot plans, Merchants Row grocery or Magic Johnson movie theater plans. If this new development announcement is something we haven't discussed in depth here, great. But I'm sure a lot of people would breathe much easier when final plans for BC, TS or Rock HQ are announced. | ||
Nellonfury Member Username: Nellonfury Post Number: 161 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 68.43.156.135 |
Can't wait to hear these annoucements!!Looks like the city doesn't have plans for the Monroe Block yet...to they'll get to it in the future. | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 716 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123 |
One other project that is due for a major announcement this summer, June actually, I forgot to add: Detroit-Ann Arbor mass transit study results | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 81 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.40.65.66 |
As far as Monroe is concerned,they havent even releasen a RFD or whatever the official development request that they issued for Hudson was...so that is a ways off IMO. Also Campus Martius is supposed to be staged developmeent so, once parcel at a time. I see it being residential | ||
Gumby Member Username: Gumby Post Number: 1236 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 141.216.1.4 |
It is RFP Apbest. RFD has something to do with Mayberry. | ||
Toolbox Member Username: Toolbox Post Number: 918 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.184.29.148 |
RFD - Rural Free Delivery. | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 82 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.40.65.66 |
ahh...request for formal proposal I assume? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3823 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
I think it's just Request for Proposal. I can't wait to see what the next wave of development has in store for downtown Detroit. The basic building blocks have already been placed, for the most part. Now, it's time to see what is built off of the first wave of developments. Same thing is happening in my city of Lansing, at the moment. | ||
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport Post Number: 109 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 68.61.11.146 |
It is great that by the end of the year the BC, F-S, Broderick, 1401 Woodward, Detroit Life Building, and all casinos will be under construction. This is a great year for the city. | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 630 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 68.60.110.77 |
Plus the buildings that are supposed to be built on the riverfront. | ||
Matt Member Username: Matt Post Number: 1055 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.49.95.12 |
So when's the big announcement today? | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 84 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.40.65.66 |
Rbdetsport...dont forget about Lafayette, Vinton, Woodward Block, and (knock-on-wood) Rock/Statler the bettre year will be 2008 when all this schitt is supposed to open...btw, did u mean 1001 woodward or 1403 woodward? or was it a combination of the two to save time ;) (Message edited by apbest on June 07, 2006) (Message edited by apbest on June 07, 2006) | ||
Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field Post Number: 567 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.38.16.35 |
Does the major announcement have anything to do with a new police headquarters? | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 1698 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.221.73.49 |
Pretty sure they just announced a pricy renovation of the Beaubien HQ (the right move IMO). | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6058 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
NBA greats investing in riverfront's future http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20060607/NEW S11/60607018 | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6059 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Since you're reading this on Detroit Yes, I'll translate the headline: NBA Great's investing on riverfronts futures. | ||
Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field Post Number: 569 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.38.16.35 |
Please don't tell me that was the major announcement that ErikD alluded to in his initial post....we already know about Atwater West and Asian Village! | ||
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria Post Number: 341 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 216.223.168.132 |
Ditto, Mind_field. | ||
Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 736 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.221.183.120 |
Not much of a big announcement - it was a couple of months ago I guess. | ||
Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 738 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.221.183.120 |
Not much of a big announcement - it was a couple of months ago I guess. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3830 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
Leave it to the Free Press to regurgitate stories they've done just weeks/months ago, themselves. | ||
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73 Post Number: 67 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 141.209.33.164 |
Ericd, was that the announcement, or was there something else you were expecting to hear today that wasn't announced? | ||
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport Post Number: 111 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 68.61.11.146 |
ErikD, are you going to talk? Or just leave all of us hanging? | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 1700 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.221.73.49 |
haha, this was "breaking news" according to the Freep. Well, I guess the last sentence about water taxis is pretty awesome. | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 86 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.40.65.66 |
yeah, bus trolleys thats pretty cool...I assume it means trackless trolleys run by overhead wires. Does that count as light rail? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T rolleybus fyi for anyone that wants | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 479 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 35.11.210.161 |
No he's talking about those green trolley style busses that DDOT uses, I can't say I've seen them in awhile. | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 87 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.40.65.66 |
damn, thats misleading and disappointing | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3832 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
Not really misleading, as when you mention trolley bus anywhere in this country now, it's always those gimmicky buses with a faux trolley body. They have one or two of those here in Lansing that they drag out on special occasions. Tacky and gimmicky. | ||
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1758 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
They is a bunch in the yard on the east side of the Chrysler between Warren and 94.
I agree. | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 90 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.40.65.66 |
Lmich, are you referring to deisel powered buses or electrical power from overhead line buses?...I think the later (an official trolleybus, as per the wikiperdia article), would be a good alternative to downtown bus routes | ||
Rocket_city Member Username: Rocket_city Post Number: 52 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 141.217.214.203 |
The term used at the ULI event was rubber-wheeled trollies. My personal assumption is that they are referring to that collection of green trollies that the city has stored away somwhere. I think they are actually at the DDOT lot off of East Warren (near I-75). | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2278 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.105.18 |
Bump..... still waiting..... | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3835 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
Apbest, again, I'm talking about regular old buses. Those electric buses are extremely rare, now, and were more a transition mode of transportation until buses could be phased in. You'll find those in very few place in this country, today, if at all. | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 94 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.40.65.66 |
...San Franscisco, Seattle, Philly, Cambridge, lots of European cities (specifically eastern Europe), and lots of other places use them | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3838 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
You're thinking streetcars. While not much different, electric buses were another form of transportation that are very rare in this country. | ||
Tomoh Member Username: Tomoh Post Number: 204 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.136.10.153 |
Seattle and Vancouver and I believe San Francisco all run electric busses as well as Dayton, Ohio. Those are the ones I've seen recently. They are only on limited routes, mostly in the core of downtown. The overhead grid can be amusing, and I kind of like the display of infrastructure. | ||
Tomoh Member Username: Tomoh Post Number: 205 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.136.10.153 |
Man, speaking of Seattle, I hope one day instead of the rubber-wheeled busses with the (faux or not) old-school trolley body that there can be a streetcar line along the waterfront with the old-school streetcar body. As in Seattle, it'd mostly be for leisure along the waterfront but it could also be useful for getting between the RenCen and the East Riverfront. It all depends on how the East Riverfront is built up, whether the RiverWalk truly leads to some really popular destinations. | ||
Erikd Member Username: Erikd Post Number: 638 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.242.214.106 |
It looks like I got everybody going with first post... The project that I was talking about isn't a new announcement. There has been some good progress on a long awaited development over the last few weeks that has happened under the radar. I'm expecting the media to pick up on it very soon, but I don't want to jinx it by spilling the beans.... | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1555 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
Lord knows you wouldn't want to use the river WALK to make the trip. Drive downtown, park in a lot, and then take a trolley from the Ren Cen for 7 blocks to a destination. No wonder we are so fat. | ||
Matt Member Username: Matt Post Number: 1057 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.49.95.12 |
Dish the details already, Erik. :P | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 736 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123 |
Major announcements made this week: Clean Downtown program Fort-Shelby renovation start Riverfront's NBA investors Are any of these what you were talking about Ericd? Major announcements due this month that we are waiting on: Book Cadillac final deal Tiger Stadium plan Detroit-Ann Arbor study results Also, while walking past Cadillac Square this morning a couple of the construction guys said the park would be finished by mid July. | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 637 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 68.42.78.219 |
Crossing fingers for a transit announcement. | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 738 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123 |
The transit study results announcement is a sure thing. That's definitely coming this summer. If I were to cross my fingers on that one, it would be that they recomend TRU's plan: http://www.detroittransit.org/ Ann%20Arbor%20Detroit.pdf I will feel much better when I see a Tiger Stadium or Book Cadillac announcement. | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 639 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 68.42.78.219 |
I guess that's what I should have said E_hemingway ... a good transit anouncement  | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 739 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123 |
Yes, a good transit announcement will be key for the region. A lot of dominos can/will fall with a good transit announcement. | ||
Restoretheroar Member Username: Restoretheroar Post Number: 696 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 199.67.140.84 |
Interscope Records in the NBC Building? | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1556 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
Am I the only person who read the article? They are doing investigative work, and pre-mediation work to determine if their plan, which does not yet have finalized funding, is feasible. They do not yet own the building, so they clearly cannot have begun renovations. This happend at the BC about 2 years ago. And that deal is just getting ready to close now (maybe). Let us just hold our collective breaths for a moment until (a) financing is secured; (b) they actually purchase the building; and (c) real work begins. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6086 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
I just think it's great how they're renovating the Fort-Shelby. | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1557 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
allegedly, itsjeff...you have to remember to use the word allegedly. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6087 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Allegedly, I just think it's great that they're renovating the Fort-Shelby. | ||
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister Post Number: 721 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.255.240.120 |
Once again, RoFlMbAo @ Itsjeff. later - naturalsister | ||
Tomoh Member Username: Tomoh Post Number: 207 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.136.10.153 |
I do hope to see lots of people walking. But I also see the use in something to shuttle people around once development on the East Riverfront reaches Belle Isle. And to get people who will be living there to get downtown without a car, yet also without walking a mile everyday (not that it's particularly long or bad to walk everyday). | ||
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister Post Number: 723 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.255.240.120 |
CBD to Eastern Market on weekends would be great. Sometimes I just don't feel like walking. later - naturalsister | ||
Tomoh Member Username: Tomoh Post Number: 209 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 24.136.10.153 |
I think the Dequindre Cut greenway is made such that it could support light rail in the future (to Eastern Market from the CBD). | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1562 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
So the 3000 people who live in the CBD district can get fresh vegetables on the weekend without walking. That's likely to get a lot of support. | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 99 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.40.65.66 |
is that sarcasm? | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1563 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
Yes. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3841 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
Oh please, already. People take trolley, street cars, and other lightrail all the time in other cities. Why are you so adament in disparaging a line from dowtown to Belle Isle, or from the East Riverfront to Eastern Market? | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 920 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
Beause they need to turn a positive into a negative, so that they have something to complain about. | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 56 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 12.45.2.184 |
Here is my idea for the dequindre cut; Image sub-level shops and restaurants, accesible from street level along the cut from eastern market (someday to the eastern edge of new center) to the river. A slow moving open trolley moving alone the rails, allowing for patrons to jump on and off for $1. Offer owners reduce taxes for opening up and incentives that connect the restaurants, clubs and shops. Comission artists to design a pathway and sculptures for residents. just an idea. 313 | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3846 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
I'm not sure that would work. You'd have to somehow make an alley to allow for trash pickup, and all kinds of intersting little problems. I think it is enough as a transit link, and probably all it can hold. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2289 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.81.90 |
This thread.... all hype.... and then.... nothing! | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 838 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
Five months ago, a vanilla CVS store opening downtown was all the rage to the "arts and croissant" crowd, albeit with limited hours compared to busier CVS stores elsewhere in Detroit... | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 57 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 12.45.2.184 |
lmichigan..good catch for trash pick-up. But its tough enough for the city to pick up trash in it's alley's already. They just have to go that extra mile to pick up trash that is placed on the street instead of the alley.(come to New York and see how they get it done. No such things as alleys) The idea will only work if tourist visit more often; more outside money circulating the area. | ||
Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field Post Number: 574 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.38.18.195 |
Gistok, very true. No surprise at all, I was expecting that there wouldn't be a big announcement this week. Typical. I almost wish those with insider information would not post anything saying when an announcement will be made, as it never happens on time in Detroit....if at all. | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1564 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
Turning a positive into a negative? Trying to point out flaws in logic that seems to continually state " we few people who live downtown should be able to have a public transportaion system that supports our needs, while ignoring the plight of the rest of the city. I would love a trolley line from the ren cen to belle isle. I would love something from CBD to Eastern Market. But are those really the best use of extremely limited funds that are available? They each would serve a "need" for a very small group of people. And I really do not think that it is a need at all, more like a convenience for lazy people. If we lived in a city with adequate schooling, adequate bulk pick-up, adequate policing, etc., then yes, we should spend money on convenience. We do not. If somebody wants to try and build a private transportaion system that takes people from point to point, I am all for it. But my tax dollars have a lot more important things upon which to be spent. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6100 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Hey, that reminds me. Has anyone seen the plans for the $50,000,000 tent they want to put up on the site of Ford Auditorium? | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 533 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.229.40.99 |
Am I wrong, or did the big week that titled this thread never come? | ||
Matt Member Username: Matt Post Number: 1060 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.49.95.12 |
You're correct! | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 536 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.229.40.99 |
Well, we are consistent if nothing else. | ||
Restoretheroar Member Username: Restoretheroar Post Number: 697 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 68.42.216.192 |
you all missed it- the big news is here. Tigers Safe at Home With AT&T AT&T Named Official Long Distance Provider for the Detroit Tigers DETROIT, June 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AT&T Inc. (NYSE: T) announced today that it has been selected by Detroit Tigers Inc. to be the official long distance provider for Detroit's Major League Baseball team. Specific contract terms were not disclosed. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi- bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY= /www/story/06-12-2006/00043784 46&EDATE= | ||
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05 Post Number: 20 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.61.197.58 |
you must be jokin | ||
Erikd Member Username: Erikd Post Number: 652 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.242.214.106 |
Here it is...
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=2006606170350 As a further update, the demolition for the permanent Greektown casino is now in full swing. Both of these projects have been delayed for years. Getting both of these projects going after all these years of legal issues, tax issues, financing issues, etc, is huge news for Detroit. | ||
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport Post Number: 117 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 68.61.11.146 |
Add in the Tiger Stadium plan, and this was a pretty big couple of weeks for development in Detroit. | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 63 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 12.45.2.184 |
I will believe it when I see it.313 | ||
Llyn Member Username: Llyn Post Number: 1566 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206 |
Promise? | ||
Detroiternthemist Member Username: Detroiternthemist Post Number: 57 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 68.74.30.250 |
We're not the only ones that think the BC is big news... http://story.malaysiasun.com/p .x/ct/9/cid/3a8a80d6f705f8cc/i d/42c6dbc3aaea991f/ http://news.monstersandcritics .com/business/article_1173431. php/Business_Roundup News heard around the world! If this happens my opinion is this will be the snowball that starts the avalanche. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6146 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.242.213.167 |
So all around the world they're announcing that the Book-Cadillac is on Jefferson Avenue? | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 64 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 72.229.136.103 |
I just caught that too. Wow.313 | ||
Jasoncw Member Username: Jasoncw Post Number: 182 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.149.141.170 |
The free presses article made the other people think the BC is on Jefferson, lol. It's cool that it's such big news! | ||
Erikd Member Username: Erikd Post Number: 668 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.242.214.106 |
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20060627/NEWS11/ 60627010 http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20060627/UPDAT E/606270430 (Message edited by erikd on June 28, 2006) | ||
Llyn Member Username: Llyn Post Number: 1579 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206 |
The Erikd strikes back! "Gistok, Mind_field, Irish_mafia, Matt... I'm your father..." (Message edited by llyn on June 28, 2006) | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3933 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
I guess anyone that's heard anything can post an ambiguous annoucement of a "big project" coming down the pipe, and then wait for it to happen whenever it does and claim to be "in the know." | ||
Dialh4hipster Member Username: Dialh4hipster Post Number: 1695 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.250.205.35 |
That's kind of what I was thinking. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3934 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
Yeah, it really wasn't a "strike back" or and "I told you so." It wasn't a new announcement as he makes so many things sound. The whole run-around and ambiguous "new" annoucements of potential announcements, is unnecessary and more importantly hurts his credibility, IMO. If that's the case, I guess I can announce and announcement about something going on at the Monroe Block at Campus Martius, and wait for it to happen since its an inevitablity and regurgitated news. | ||
Llyn Member Username: Llyn Post Number: 1586 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206 |
...or perhaps he knew of the announcement but couldn't talk about it yet. Just a thought. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3936 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
That's a possibility, too, but there is no way to know, and to take credit for the announcement, when there is no way for us to check on it just seems a bit much. This is the internet, afterall, and people would be foolish to trust a stranger that gives you nothing more than a "trust me" attitude. I really hope I'm not being too hard on Erik, but I think too many put too much stock in the annoucements of the "insiders" without applying Skipper's Rule, ironically considering he was an insider, but one that understood that even he didn't know it all. | ||
Erikd Member Username: Erikd Post Number: 669 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.242.214.106 |
Lmich, I don't take credit for anything in relation to the BC. I didn't do anything to help make the project happen. My initial post was written after the media failed to report when the last hurdle was overcome. There was media coverage when the last piece of financing was secured, there was media coverage of the project approval from City Council, but there was no media coverage of the final approval from the historic commission. I was surprised that the media had missed this final step that sealed the deal, and I was expecting the finalization of the BC deal hit the headlines shortly after my initial post. Crain's ran the first story a week after my initial post, but the Freep and News didn't report anything until nearly 2 weeks later. (Message edited by erikd on June 29, 2006) | ||
Llyn Member Username: Llyn Post Number: 1587 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206 |
For what it's worth, Erikd is not a stranger to me. Plus, I've seen all his movies. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3939 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.154.56 |
I really don't mean to sound mean, but I think it's rather unreasonable for most of us who only deal with you through this board to "just trust you." All I'd suggest, is whenever possible, that is if you even care about credibility here (I'm not sure I would if I knew I was an insider), to perhaps offer a little more than ambiguous announcements concerning possible announcements whenever possible, that's all. |
