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Mthouston
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Had a client who needed some aerials shot of Detroit. I got to spend half a day in helicopter hovering over Detoit. It was great fun.
Here are some of the "outtakes"









All imgaes © 360michigan / Mark Houston 2006
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Viziondetroit
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Great pics...
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Hysteria
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Sweet!
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Itsjeff
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https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/23585/28362.html

Moved to the Hall of Fame
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Frenchman_in_the_d
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Hey all,

an opportunity to share some pix taken on my flight back from Wash, D.C. last month.









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Eric_c
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There's NO WAY you were in DC last week, Frenchman! And those pictures have obviously been doctored!

Just teasing! ;)
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Aiw
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Hey! There's my house :-)



Nice shots Frenchman...
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Hagglerock
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Mt,
Did you yourself fly that route? Since I've never flown near any big cities downtowns, I was wondering if you only have to file a VFR flight plan and stay the FAR/AIM distances from each building?
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Mackinaw
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Nice photos all around.
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Mthouston
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The flight plan was set by the client and the Helicopter pilot. I don't know what clearances were required.
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Hagglerock
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Roger that, thanks for the reply.
If those are the "outtakes" how much better are the keepers?
Great pics BTW.
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Mikem
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I guess I've been slacking.
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Hornwrecker
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Let some of the others carry the load for awhile.

You deserve some slack, as do I: in fact, I'm in mid-slack right now.
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Mikem
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I'm still undecided as to whether slacking is an art or a science. I'll keep the investigation going.
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Mthouston
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Slacking, like Photography is a blend of both art and science.
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Aiw
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Mt. Who did you use for a 'copter?

McMahon?
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Lmichigan
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Mthouston,

Do you have a place where we could see larger versions of your pictures? They are excellent! BTW, when exactly were they taken?
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Thank you Thouston and F in the D for the pics.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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nice pics, thanks!
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This is a Picture of Foxtown with a view of the Stadiums


This is a view of Foxtown looking southwest on the Fisher FWY. Notice Comeriac Park and The fox Theatre barely appearing on the left

(Message edited by Dtown1 on September 01, 2006)
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Dtown1
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Here's another arial view of downtown.
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Detroit313
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Those were some of the best shots I've seen.313
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Mthouston
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quote:

Mt. Who did you use for a 'copter?

McMahon?



Yes Aiw we need use McMahon, good people, we ahd a great pilot.


quote:

Do you have a place where we could see larger versions of your pictures? They are excellent! BTW, when exactly were they taken?




Not yet,
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That Foxtown pic would look a lot better without the ugly old building with the blue windows mucking it up.
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Aiw
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In my line of work we've used McMahon too. That's some crazy little airport they fly out of.

We use the large Skiorsky's, but you were probably in the Bell. Was Scott your pilot?

They are all great there.
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Mthouston
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Aiw, Flew in the Long Ranger. I got picked up at City Airport.
Pete was the pilot.
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Oh, by the way, that's my school! Cass Tech, class of 2010
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All awesome photos. The last time I flew in I managed to get a skyline picture that was too far away and blurry to produce anything like those. In the past I've had a variety of departures, but none seem to come right over downtown.
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Dtown1, Class of 2010?! Well, that explains everything for me.
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Great pictures all. Many thanks!

You have inspired me to dig out some old pictures and assemble a webisode, "Detroit Fly Over 1992" [see link to left]. MikeM's above mentioned thread has been Moved to the Hall of Fame and this one will join with it when it runs its course.
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Nice pictures of the east side. The pic of Flanders and Gratiot is crystal clear.
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Lowell, that old football field that's the last picture in your photo tour, was the De La Salle's home field of the fighting Pilots.

Can't even see the old cinder running track with the squared off corners that was our home advantage, since it's all overgrown.
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As DodgeMain said, the unidentified intersection is Gratiot & Flanders to the right (east) and St Patrick to the left (west).

You were landing to the west on City Airport's runway 25.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f= q&hl=en&q=Gratiot+and+FLanders ,+Detroit,+MI&ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1 &z=16&ll=42.412716,-82.992353& spn=0.011549,0.026886
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A few night shots for your enjoyment.

The D @ Night



























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Somebody forgot to turn the lights on.
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Andyguard73
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Flybydon, how old are those shots? 2003? I only asked because I noticed that One Kennedy Square isnt up and theres no construction on MGM in the pics.
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Also the Statler is still standing and I believe the ML is still standing as well
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Nice shots Flbydon! Thanks for sharing.
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Did somebody get a blimp ride?

Thanks Don!
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Those are taken from Great Lakes Aerial Photos, and are a few years old. Detroit, even declined, looks good from the air, at night.
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Looking at aerial shots always reminds me how much prime real estate cobo hall takes up along the west side of downtown on the river. The skyline would be so much more interesting if there were scrapers in that area instead of Cobo. But great shots by all especially the night ones.
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Those are excellent night shots.
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its disgusting to see the amount of surface lots...but they're awesome photos
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Andyguard73: Some shots taken in 2001 some in 2003.

Lowell: Thank you for allowing me the privilege of sharing.

Mikem: No, I’m the pilot and photographer. You’re very welcome.

Lmichigan: Discovered. Yes I am Great Lakes Aerial Photos. Yes, Detroit does shines with grand beauty by night.

Mayor_sekou: Thank you.

Wolverine: Thank you.

Apbest: Thank you.

Mthouston: I would like to say that your images are terrific. If those are just the out takes, the money shots must be outstanding. Great Work!



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The_rock
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Wonderful photos, Don. I spend a fair share of time looking at your photos of Great Lakes ships. Those shots of the old TEAKGLEN sailing into Goderich Harbor are awesome.
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Another gorgeous shot Don; it expresses the definition of Le Detroit [the straits] perfectly.

Don or MikeM, just curious, what are the altitudes limits that you must obey when flying over Detroit? I seem to remember it was something like 3000 feet but helicopters [which I find mild annoying since they are so loud] can fly much lower. Is it a big deal to go over Canadian airspace in the post 911 era?
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Lowell: Thank You for your kind words.

Answer to your question(s) regarding my type of operations (General Aviation)
Federal Aviation Regulation
Part 91 GENERAL OPERATING AND FLIGHT RULES
Sec. 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
(d) Helicopters. Helicopters may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section if the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the surface. In addition, each person operating a helicopter shall comply with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters by the Administrator.


RE: Canadian airspace in the post 911 era?

No, must be on a flight plan going into or out of Canada.
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Mthouston, can you say what it cost to rent the helicopter for the half day shoot you did? And, in the type of helicopter you were in could more than one photographer be shooting at the same time without getting in each other's way? You know where I'm going with this! I'm going to count the change in my piggy-bank!! :-)

Livedog2
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Flybydon quoting the bible of aviation, good stuff. BTW is there site where I could see a full size version? I would love to have these as a screen saver.
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Terrific shots. The night shots made me dizzy.
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Don, those night shots were absolutely gorgeous! Can you buy any of those pics in a larger format suitable for framing?
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Bvos,

Great Lakes Aerial Photos:

http://www.aerialpics.com/
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One more before the thread fades away.



Thank you all for your kind words and worm welcome.