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Ookpik
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 9:29 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Two photos today! Where is this exactly? Memorial Park? I tried to figure it out on Google Earth but was unable to do so. I have been everything from a fan to a pit crew member during the hydroplane races for over 30 years and this doesn't look familiar at all.

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For a larger version of the second photo, please click here


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Mikem
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 9:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Taken from a room at The Whittier?
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Tarkus
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 9:37 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can't be The Whitter. The 7 sisters in the background are across the river. It has to be taken from the Canadian side.
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Ookpik
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 9:44 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The photo was taken from the Detroit side. The building across the river is the Detroit Yacht Club on Belle Isle.
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Spacemonkey
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 9:50 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If I'm not mistaken, that photo was taken between the third and fourth circles of Dante's Inferno.
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Ookpik
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 9:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Really? Is that off Jefferson? :-)
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Kathleen
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:04 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think MikeM's guess is pretty on target. I believe that all those trees and maybe the two towers (although those could be something industrial along the riverfront further east) are Waterworks Park.
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Kenp
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:25 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MikeM is always on target, he is amazing.
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Swingline
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mikem is right on target. The inlet in the foreground is now the location of the marina at Erma Henderson Park. Immediately across the inlet is the current site of the Jeffersonian and River House apartment buildings. The Detroit Yacht Club can be seen across the river on Belle Isle. Judging from the vintage of the automobiles and the boats, the photos are circa mid 1930's.
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Mikem
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not so sure the photo is from The Whittier itself, or the apartments next to it, closer to Jefferson. When was The Whittier built? Late 1920s? Were the apartment buildings next to it built at the same time? When was the Memorial Park Marina dredged?
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Ookpik
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Erma Henderson Park
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Mikem
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:03 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The stacks in the foreground are probably at the Fairview pumping station at the end of Fairview, which pumps waste from that area of town down to the wastewater treatment plant on the Rouge. The station probably had steam-powered pumps with its own on-site steam plant. I don't see the stacks in the early aerial photos, so the picture must be pre-1949.

Speaking of Fairview, I notice the Manoogian mansion was not there in 1949. I thought it was older than that - any idea which year it was constructed?
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Kenp
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:15 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M anoogian_Mansion
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Gtat44
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:19 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is why I love this site so much..........history, photos, and great discussion of our beloved city! But, in under two hours to get this one!? Hopefully, a NEWBIE like myself will be able to answer one of these photos before you vets. In due time, Gtat, in due time. :-)
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Gtat44
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ookpik,
I'm sure I'm probably wrong but pull back from your Erma Henderson photo and look to the canal on the right. That looks like the old photo you posted by the width of the canal. :}
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Mikem
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks KenP, I see it now. I didn't realize how large the lot on the east side of it was.
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Mikem
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found the Fairview stacks in a different aerial photo from 1949:


Fairview Pumping Station 1949



Gone by 1952:





So there's the upper end of the date range on the photo.
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Ookpik
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So am I correct in understanding that the land in the foreground of the two photos is now Erma Henderson Park? The same land on the left in the Erma Henderson Park photo? Was this once known as Memorial Park?
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Mikem
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes.
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Kathleen
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks to everyone for filling in the blanks...like the Fairview stacks. I was thinking foot of Fairview cause I remember the riverfront park there that always seemed industrial, but wasn't sure other than they seemed further east than Waterworks Park. The aerial shots are great!!
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Jjaba
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 2:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MikeM has flown over the Detroit River more times than combined homers of Willie Horton and Hank Greenberg lifetime. 5,000 atta boys for you.

jjaba, Westsider.
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Ookpik
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Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 2:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks everyone! :-)

My brother has sorta flown over the Detroit River too.....


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Jjaba
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Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 4:30 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gar Wood would be proud.

jjaba.
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Pinewood73
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Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 5:24 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ookpik,

Not sure how to quote a post, but I noticed your picture of Erma Henderson Park, wondering if you or someone in the forum knows what that "X" shaped building on the right is.

Thanks!
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Kathleen
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Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 6:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those are the River House Co-operative apartments. http://www.riverhouse.coop/
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The_rock
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Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 7:00 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice shot of Ookpik's brother and his boat. Judging by the boat's name, I assume he is a lawyer.
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Ookpik
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Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 8:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting observation Rock but he is neither a lawyer or an activist. The boat, which is 50 years old, was already named Agitator when he purchased it. Despite doing research for over a year, he was unable to find out who or why named the boat Agitator. He was able to trace the history of the boat back to the original builder and had a great web page about it that unfortunately, no longer seems to work.