  Capnhook Member Username: Capnhook Post Number: 36 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.136.143.93 |
This was a very interesting article and I think Detroit is seeing the same thing. I'm not sure if we are overbuilding houses in the metro area like the example of another city in the article. I do think that people are looking for larger houses and are passing by solid nice Detroit neighborhoods for lifestyle reasons. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06 /21/AR2006062101735.html?nav=h cmodule | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4362 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.223 |
Capnhook, Detroit today is still suffering over the lost middle-income folks. And it all started with the 1st foundation SEGREGATION. follow by XENOPHOBIA, DEMARCATION, FREEWAYS, MALLS, WHITE-FLIGHT, BLACK-CONTROL OF ALL CITY SERVICES, and ECOMONIC FLIGHT. Another symptom is to Detroit's ethnic population from white to black. is due to 25 year exodus of all ethnic Jews who used to lived in Detroit neighborhoods from the Paradise Valley to West Bloomfield TWP. Of course early black communities did tend to moved to other low-income communities of their own race and later when they can used their brains that God give them, they began to move out to middle-income communities just like they moved to Oak Park in the late 1970s, Southfield in the early 1980s, Farmington Hills in the late 1980s of course all the way up to West Bloomfield TWP. Bloomfield TWP. Bloomfield Hills, in the early 1990s. Other Black Detroit families are comsidering move to other middle-income places like Warren, Eastpointe, Harper Woods, Redford TWP. Livonia, Westland, Wayne, Taylor, Romulus, Canton, Clinton TWP, Roseville, St. Clair Shores, Northville TWP, Van Buren TWP, Ypsilanti TWP. And most middle-income blacks are begining to leave behind the their low-income loved one behind, dumping them away to the ghettos like trash. So far the middle-income white-folks are still living their cookie cutter homes in the suburbs, but the when 5 to 20 black-folks started to move into these areas. They would say, "OH NO! HERE WE GO AGAIN," or a racial action saying, " NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD!" If these hateful words don't work then they would move further out the ex-urban communities where black-folks or ant ethnic minorities would NEVER see their pretty glow faces ever again. So today we still living in nation where these racial codes still exists and soon becomming a invicible law in the United States, creating a offshoot version of the matrix where a society we are living in is a everday constant virtual dream of LIES. | ||
Jtw Member Username: Jtw Post Number: 89 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 12.159.32.66 |
wow, that was a pretty sweet rant. | ||
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_ Post Number: 1409 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.230.150 |
The problem I see with those codes is not so much the Blacks moving in. It just happens to co-exist at a time that when the Blacks are moving in, Crime is also increasing. Therefore to these people Blacks=Crime, Blacks=Detroit, Blacks=Blight, Here we go again. | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 3660 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.74.31.233 |
Damn good post, Danny ..... Saw an interesting article while in airport yesterday. It stated that Cincinnati, OH is the loss leader in municipal populations (according to the US Census Agency. So it's not all about Detroit ...... The REALITY is "It's occuring everywhere." Black-atcha ..... wondering if Rosewood, the Greenwood District and other places of ours would be a metropolis/haven now, if they hadn't been destroyed for their wealth in guise of "white supremacy." Go figure ..... | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6168 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
I'd also heard that St. Louis has lost a larger percentage of population than Detroit. | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 1561 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.100.158.10 |
Ironically, word on the street in DC is the same as in the fear-mongering 50s and 60s (and beyond). The only difference is that now, the racial roles are reversed. In gentrifying neighborhoods, a lot of the longtime black residents are worried about white people moving in and "taking over". What gets lost is that the white people are only "taking over" because the current black residents are "selling out" and moving out to the suburbs. I heard two older men talking about exactly this on the bus yesterday. They seemed upset that so many other black people were upset and blaming the new white residents for the "problem". In fact, they credited the newcomers for being smart with their money and investing in the city. I give those two guys a lot more credit than the bigoted old white men who lambasted and demonized blacks when they moved in to "take over". It's a shame that people are scared of something as ridiculous as skin color. | ||
Detourdetroit Member Username: Detourdetroit Post Number: 220 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
it's almost equal parts class and race and people tend to forget the power of class in the equation, but race is the catalyst and the provocateur and the real ugly mofo...and it's a super sad commentary. My sister, a white girl who grew up in 1980s and 1990s Detroit and went to public school said whilst in middle school, "The only way Detroit is ever going to get over itself is if a generation of black folks marries a generation of white folks then maybe their babies could work it out..." I always thought there was some crazy insight in that statement. | ||
Ltorivia485 Member Username: Ltorivia485 Post Number: 2680 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 143.231.249.141 |
Middle-class people in Detroit are leaving because they cannot afford poor services and sky-high automobile and homeowners' insurance. And I don't blame them either! Someone in Detroit should not have to pay $4000 a year in car insurance when it will cost half of that across 8 Mile and Telegraph. | ||
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed Post Number: 284 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 209.220.229.254 |
Danindc, the same thing is occuring in the Uptown and former Cabrini-Green neighborhoods in Chicago, Bed-Stuy in Brooklyn, LIC in Queens, and it already happened in Alphabet City, Lower East Side, and the East Village in Manhattan. Role reversal indeed. Black flight. | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 1566 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.100.158.10 |
I tell you what, though. At least there aren't black folk picketing in the front yard, chanting, breaking windows, kicking white ass, and setting houses on fire. That's a hell of a lot more than one can say for the working class white bigots who pioneered urban flight in the 1940s and 50s. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4367 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 198.111.166.19 |
THAT'S WRONG!!!It's Jeff, St. Louis black population is 52% while its white population is 44% according to U.S. Census in 2004. Detroit still remains one of the top U.S. metropolitian cities with the highest black population of 84.6% black while Detroit's white population is LOSING 9%. It's amazing how SEGREGATION in all American cities can do any white and ethnic race. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4375 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 198.111.166.19 |
Danindc, The Last time black-folks in Detroit breaking " SMASH and GRAB" stuff was back in the 1967 riots. At Detroits east side along Mack Rd. from Jefferson Ave. to E. Warren Rd. and from Alter Rd. to Conner Rd. black-folks stormed into the predominately white neighborhoods and burn some their homes down, smash and grab stuff from mom and pop business along Mack Ave and beating white families left and right and trying to creeping up to (Snobbyville) Grosse Pointe Park. in which the GPP Police was fully prepared by blocking all Detroit borders along Alter Rd. and Mack Ave. After the left the Morningside community. most of homes and businesses were either destroyed or vandalized. It's like the Guals sacked Rome in 410 B.C. Now the hood is mostly black and blighted while (Snobbyville) Grosse Pointe Park is snuggly safe and secure. At least some new homes are being built up. | ||
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog Post Number: 557 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 12.47.224.8 |
For those who question whether sprawl is good or bad. I think this sums it up. What a sad but very truthful article. One can only hope that the move back to the city center's can catch up with the shift to exurbia. I doubt that urban revitalization can keep pace with rampant sprawl but I hope the future proves me wrong. I'll just keep doing my part in my little corner of the city but it looks more and more like Banana Republic America here we come... | ||
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed Post Number: 288 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 209.220.229.254 |
How does your rant prove him wrong? What did itsjeff say that has anything to do with race? St. Louis has lost more population than Detroit, percentage-wise. No one said anything about white/black. | ||
7milekid Member Username: 7milekid Post Number: 99 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 68.61.161.193 |
hey danny, ever heard of a thing called grammer, doesnt look like it | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 1028 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.142.86.133 |
I find it interesting that when neighborhoods "go downhill" people generally choose to cut and run. If all the wonderful people in the neighborhood all stayed, the problems wouldn't perpetuate. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way. The funny thing is that those older communities today were the Carmel, Indianas of the 60's and 70's. There's nothing out there that says that Carmel, IN won't become the poorer, older suburb that the current old burbs are. The really odd thing is that people always seem to move out. Why don't they move in. I'm pretty sure you can still have high income neighborhoods closer to big cities. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4384 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
7milekid, Ever heard on participles, gerunds and gerundives mixed in with codespeak? Lots of philosophers tried this technique. As for the Middle Class in Detroit this guy won't go anywhere but Detroit.  He will defend his home at any cost.  | ||
Themax Member Username: Themax Post Number: 31 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 69.246.123.118 |
http://www.mlui.org/transporta tion/fullarticle.asp?fileid=15 193 Detroit and Michigan have lost out on loads of money because they can't agree. And back in the late '80's I think Detroit lost a lot of HUD money because they didn't file the paperwork on time. Someone needs to watch the city government and make sure heads roll when this happens. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4404 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
Also because there were to many talk!! That they couldn't do any action like filling out the paperwork. Most of Coleman Young's cronies who worked for the Detroit Housing Commission in the 1980s are just LAZY all the time. They just do a little work, clowning and wait til the paycheck rolls in on every other Friday. |
