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Themax
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Post Number: 19
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:14 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am not a native Detroiter so I really don't know much about Detroit's history. Does anyone have any stories about Detroit's past mayors that might help me understand how Detroit is where it is today?
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Haydenth
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:16 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I suggest you read "Hard Stuff" by Coleman Young. This is a long and complicated history.
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Hamtramck_steve
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 10:20 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll be the first (but not only) to mention Thomas Sugrue's "Origins of an Urban Crisis" for the best place to start.
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Danny
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try the Detroit Almanac. There you will find those who corrupt the City of Detroit.
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Gary
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 11:13 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For starters, you might want to search on mayors Pingree, Reading, Bowles, Jeffries, Cavanaugh, Murphy, Lodge, Cobo and Young. Not saying ALL these guys were corrupt, but a few of them were. All of them were very significant in one way or another and you'll start to get some insight into how the city developed (or failed to develop) under their leadership.
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Gary
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 11:15 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forgot to include Miriani and Archer.
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Danny
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 11:24 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gary,

Dennis Archer didn't do a a whole lot of corruption. He's was just putting Detroit back together again. But KING KWAME tore to it up in a few minutes.
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Alexei289
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 11:43 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what politician isnt corrupt?

No, really..

I like the line taken from the godfather...

Michael Corleone: my father is just like any other powerful person, like a congressmen or senator

Mary: Senators and politicians dont have people killed Michael!

Michael: Oh (cynically)
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Gary
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 12:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Danny, I wasn't trying to imply that Archer was corrupt, I just mentioned him because I think he was significant. The same applies to most of the others I mentioned; only a few of them were blatantly corrupt, the others were mostly just old fashioned politicians who did business the way old fashioned politicians used to do, for better or worse.
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Themax
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Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 10:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems to me that a person needs a lot of people and money to get elected. Unfortunately, at least some of those people feel they deserve a job in the city bureaucracy whether they can do the job or not after the election. So the city bureaucracy becomes filled with incompetent people from prior administrations. Why is this OK instead of picking the best people for the jobs? I guess once you are elected, people will just keep re-electing you no matter what you do. The author of Fight Game Politics said that with the present gerrymandering, incombents in Congress have a 98% chance of getting re-elected. This is because the big money heads for the people in power, and the biggest voting block is over 60 who tend to have poor short term memories for details.I'm over 60 myself. Too many people are more concerned with American Idol than finding out about their local government.

(Message edited by themax on June 24, 2006)

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