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Livedog2
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Post Number: 587
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 24.223.133.177
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was downtown yesterday and ran into these friendly fellows in Cadillac Square that explained their sweet, little Law Enforcement System to me while I photographed their work.

This vehicle drives down the street and the two cameras mounted on top reads the license plates of all the cars on both sides of the street. Once it reads the license plates the license plates are coded in an OCR program. Next, it matches against the Michigan DMV records for any outstanding traffic tickets.
camera

If it finds outstanding unpaid tickets a dispatcher sends this crew out to access the situation.
men

When the final decision has been made this is the result. "A boot!" And, it doesn’t come off unless you pay all of your outstanding tickets. Slick, isn’t it? Also, kind of Orwellian!
boot

Livedog2
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Viziondetroit
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Post Number: 550
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 69.246.10.173
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have no problem with the measures they are taking (I need to handle mine though)

The city is missing millions of dollars from free parkers... Make em pay....
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7even
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 198.109.26.18
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey thats my car!

...no not really.

But, if that is your car, Killer Boot Man.
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Itsjeff
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Post Number: 6265
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 69.136.149.133
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If someone pays more than $25.00 to redeem that car, he's a chump.
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Erikd
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Post Number: 676
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 69.242.214.106
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 1:47 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

If someone pays more than $25.00 to redeem that car, he's a chump.




Don't diss that ride... The two-tone paint job is pretty sweet.
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Goat
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Post Number: 8599
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 70.54.70.136
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 9:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey! If Homer Simpson can beat the "boot" anyone can.
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Morena
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Post Number: 443
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Posted From: 216.45.2.138
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 9:51 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This appears to be most efficient enforcement system Detroit has seen in decades. B&SE and DPW should take notes.

Kudos to Ron Ruffin and his team.
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Livedog2
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Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David would be proud of him!

ruffin

Livedog2
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Spacemonkey
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 63.102.87.27
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 3:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's awesome.
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Southwestmap
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Post Number: 510
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 70.229.231.102
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"When the parking-control officers
come to remove a boot, the first thing they have to do
is unlock the padlock. Since the city is buying about
100 of the monsters, it seems highly unlikely that
every boot will have a different key. In other cities,
like Denver, a single master key unlocks them all.

That means, of course, than an anarchist thug with a
penchant for troublemaking (or a wily hustler with an
eye for a quick profit) could easily dismantle and
remove the boot from some poor innocent scofflaw's
illegally parked car, take the thing home, bust the
lock off and pay a less-than scrupulous locksmith to
make up a new key--a key that would instantly unlock
every boot in the city.

Of course, the city can always change all the padlocks
on a regular basis (although they don't come cheap).
But if we know this city, the pirates will soon be
making and selling the keys faster than the cops can
replace the locks, forcing the taxpayers to pour
ever-increasing sums of money into a parking law-
enforcement mechanism."
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Post Number: 977
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 24.231.189.137
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 6:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^whered that come from
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Cozmikdebris
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Post Number: 87
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 69.14.153.177
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 9:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Andylinn
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Post Number: 112
Registered: 04-2006
Posted From: 68.40.195.233
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 9:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

/\ where's that picture from? that isn't a detroit boot, is it? I don't see the detroit stencil on it. .andy.
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Designut
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 05-2006
Posted From: 65.123.68.93
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 9:33 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goat- That episode of the simpsons came to mind for me also. lol....Unfortunately it hasn't been aired since before 9/11 because of the scene with the new yorkers arguing between the WTC. (and rightfully so, I suppose)

anyways, this seems like a good system - lets hope they stay one step ahead of the "pirates"
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Lakesuperior
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Post Number: 123
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 68.77.170.94
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

umm- potentially dumb question-- will they boot my car if i have an unpaid gp park speeding ticket? i would think it's only detroit tickets but i'd rather err on the side of caution.
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Alexei289
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Post Number: 1190
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.61.183.223
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how bout paying your goddamn tickets...

in macomb county, you dont pay, they lock u up for 30 days... i know of several people that got picked up as far as saginaw to go to the MCJ for 30. Its not that hard... we need to get people used to obeying the law... in Detroit... its hard to get a traffic ticket anyway unless your doing something completely retarded.
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Dougw
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Post Number: 1219
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Posted From: 136.1.1.154
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like this city department is doing its job. Anyone know what the threshold of tickets is before you get the boot? Probably 3 or 5 tickets? I'd assume they wouldn't put on the boot if you only have 1 unpaid parking ticket.

Lakesuperior -- Speeding tickets are completely unrelated to parking tickets, so I don't think you'll ever get the boot for speeding tickets.
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Gistok
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Posted From: 4.229.90.176
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Simmer down there Alexei......

The simple rule of thumb is this.... Pay your speeding tickets, they can and will come back to haunt you. The offending police jurisdiction can notify the Secretary of State, and that is another can of worms.

Parking and non moving violations.... as long as you don't go back to that jurisdiction, you're probably safe.
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Alexei289
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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that reminds me, im going to court tommorow for a illegal turn violation... anyone got any suggestions?
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Cozmikdebris
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Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

im going to court tommorow for a illegal turn violation... anyone got any suggestions?



Yes, take your own advice:

quote:

how bout paying your goddamn ticket




(Message edited by cozmikdebris on July 06, 2006)
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Tndetroiter
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 149.149.5.31
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 12:43 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If your car is ever boot-ed, a pair of bolt cutters quickly takes care of the problem.
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Wolverine
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Post Number: 171
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Posted From: 24.247.163.145
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 2:33 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alexei,

Surprisingly, it's hard to get out of illegal turn tickets. Even if it's a right on a "no turn on red"

Speeding tickets are a different story though.
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Trainman
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Post Number: 98
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Posted From: 152.163.100.8
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YOU WILL PAY MORE FOR MASS TRANSIT WITH YOUR LOCAL AND COUNTY TAX DOLLARS.

Unless you have the courage to vote NO next August 8, 2006 to force our state and industry leaders to better support public mass transit.

And you will pay your downtown Detroit parking tickets.

Detroit collects more in parking tickets then from the bus fare-box and this is what you will support next August. Unless you vote NO.
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Andylinn
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Post Number: 118
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Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

trainman, i believe you would make an EXCELLENT spin doctor... for example working for a political party... you have an uncanny ability to relate any issue to public transit, though you could use more frequent references...
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Trainman
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Post Number: 102
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Posted From: 64.12.116.204
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My reference is the Detroit News on this one.
Detroit lost $20 Million in one year on parking tickets but collects about twice this which equals $40 Million. DDOT as per the Federal Transit Database collects about $35 Million per year. 35 is less then 40.

Yes, it's true. Detroit already has among the highest transit taxes in the World. Why do you think the Michigan Department of Transportation desparately wants out of the public passenger bus business? Our leaders are not shy about this and the need to lower costs.

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