Jokerman Member Username: Jokerman
Post Number: 21 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.125.189.14
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 5:08 pm: | |
OK Tiger Fans, we all know Kaline, Kell, Cobb, Trammel, Gibson, Horton and the other big names. Let's see how many obscure Tigers we can name. Here are some of my favorites from the fifties. Coot Veal Johnny Groth Charley "Paw Paw" Maxwell Reno Bertoia Milt Bolling (Frank Bolling's brother) Bill Tuttle Neil Christy Don Mossi (His ears made him look like a 58 Ford Galaxie with the doors open.) Paul Foytack Phil Reagan Ozzie Virgil, (Tigers' first black player) Remember when the Tigers and Indians traded Managers, Joe Gordon for Jimmy Dykes? Remember the big trade, Harvey Kuehn for Rocky Colavito? Remember the way Colavito would stretch with the bat behind his back? Every kid in Detroit soon followed suit. |
Ed_golick
Member Username: Ed_golick
Post Number: 307 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.55.51
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 5:24 pm: | |
Dizzy Trout http://www.detroitkidshow.com/ Dizzy_Trout.htm |
Jelk
Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 3864 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.40.103.223
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 5:37 pm: | |
Chuck Dressen. Should have managed the 1968 but died of a heart attact during the 1966 season. One of his stars with those great Brooklyn Dodgers teams of the early 1950's Gil Hodges also died too young of a heart attack just before the begining of the 1972 season...at the time Hodges was managing the New York Mets. |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 10295 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 6:14 pm: | |
Billy Chapel |
Douglasm Member Username: Douglasm
Post Number: 594 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.189.188.28
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 6:14 pm: | |
Run a list like this and you left off Hank Aguirre, possibly one of the worst hitting pitchers of all time? Don Mossi on the other hand could hit to the point that he would be used as a pinch hitter from time to time. Loved Charlie Maxwell (The Sunday Slugger) as a kid. We had something in common, we were (are?) both left handed. I believe he once held the American League record for games played in left field without an error. Chuck Dressen left the team after his second heart attack in May of 1966 and was replaced by Bob Swift (Bob Cain's catcher when Eddie Gaedel batted for The Browns in 1951), but Swift took ill with what turned out to be lung cancer and had to be replaced in July. Dressen died on 8/10/66, Swift on 10/17/66. You need a catcher. How bout Red Wilson? (Message edited by douglasm on July 07, 2006) |
Aiw
Member Username: Aiw
Post Number: 5675 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.228.201.159
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 7:43 pm: | |
Reno Bertoia, the pride of Windsor. |
Tayshaun22 Member Username: Tayshaun22
Post Number: 273 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.14.101.116
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 7:48 pm: | |
Jake Wood Schoolboy Rowe Frank Lary Rudy York Kimera Bartee Curtis Pride Tom Tresh (Allen Park's finest) Lino Urdaneta |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 691 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 7:50 pm: | |
Johnny Lipon, SS Eddie Lake, 2b George Vico, 1b Art Houtteman, p Hoot Evers, of Aaron Robinson, c, who cost us the 1950 pennant because he forgot to tag the runner. Just a few off the top of my head. |
Aaron Member Username: Aaron
Post Number: 112 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.241.224.171
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 7:51 pm: | |
How about Virgil "Fire" Trucks? He went 5-19 during the Tigers' 104-loss season in 1952, but managed to make two of those wins no-hitters. |
Lombaowski Member Username: Lombaowski
Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 217.86.123.114
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 8:12 pm: | |
-1906 Ed Siever (LHP) from my SIM league team and pitched in 1908 WS -Goose Goslin (OF)(HOF) 1935 World Champs -Tommy Bridges (RHP) Won game six of the 1935 WS -Paul richards (C) Three run double in the 1st inning of game 7 of the 1945 WS |
Baltgar Member Username: Baltgar
Post Number: 10 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 67.149.94.127
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 8:20 pm: | |
Jim Walewander - best name ever! |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 3408 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 8:51 pm: | |
I dunno Baltgar, I've always been fond of ol' John Wockenfuss myself as far as best Tigers' names. |
Nedab3 Member Username: Nedab3
Post Number: 88 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 71.28.147.228
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 9:04 pm: | |
Jerry Priddy w/bat way out.Pat Mullin Vic Wertz Manager Red Rolfe Announcer Harry Heilmann Sponsors Goebel beer and Speedway 79 gas. |
Johnfromsaginaw Member Username: Johnfromsaginaw
Post Number: 73 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.188.37.175
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 9:07 pm: | |
Ken Szotkiewicz is the best Tiger name ever. And my dad was born the same day (April 10, 1930) as Frank Lary. John Born the same day as Charlie Liebrandt (October 4, 1956). |
Nedab3 Member Username: Nedab3
Post Number: 89 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 71.28.147.228
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 9:08 pm: | |
Coaches: Ted Lyons and Dick Bartell |
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher
Post Number: 82 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 9:41 pm: | |
Mark "the Bird" Fidrych?? I'm not old enough to remember anything in the 60s or early 70s. Gramma n Gramps took me to games all the time and the one that stands out the most is The Bird. Although I remember them arguing about Wockenfuss all the time.....good arguing. Pulling up in their drive, they'd have the game on the radio.....THAT I remember. |
7milekid Member Username: 7milekid
Post Number: 132 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 68.61.161.193
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 9:41 pm: | |
Hugh Jass C 1929-32 Oliver Clothsov P 1912-1914 Phil McCracken OF 1962-63 Mike Rotch 1B 1987 Jacque Strappe P 1903-1908 |
Gumby Member Username: Gumby
Post Number: 1320 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.60.143.186
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 11:01 pm: | |
Skeeter Barnes |
Gumby Member Username: Gumby
Post Number: 1321 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.60.143.186
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 11:19 pm: | |
Milt Cuyler Raul Casanova Tim Belcher Joe Boever Urbano Lugo Ron Tingley Mike (not from Flint) Moore Bubba Trammell Geronimo Berroa Beiker Graterol Masao Kida (remember being excited by this signing) Hiram Bocachica Craig Paquette (Randy Smith really had a great offseason with this one) Scott Aldred (had to include him because I lived 3 or 4 houses down the road from him growing up and graduated from the same high school) |
Jiminnm Member Username: Jiminnm
Post Number: 825 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.35.85.184
| Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 11:31 pm: | |
Ray Boone was one of my favorites. I have his autograph on the back of a 1954 Michigan Bell bill that was the only paper my dad had on him when we saw Boone in Hudsons downtown. He was also the father of Bob Boone and grandfather of Aaron Boone. |
Bongman Member Username: Bongman
Post Number: 1164 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128
| Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 1:21 pm: | |
I bought my condo off of Roy Columbine's grandson. He had a ton of stuff from the 30's and 40's that was left to him, including an official 30's era Tiger Jacket that was sweet as all hell. I heard the name, but really didn't have a clue who he was except for the occasional mention by Kaline or Kell. Dad straightened me out though. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 80 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 65.42.16.138
| Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 2:40 pm: | |
Gates Brown!! |
Gary Member Username: Gary
Post Number: 151 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 71.144.118.69
| Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 10:06 pm: | |
Rocky Colavito Steve Boros Mike Roarke Billy Bruton Stormin' Norman Cash Dick McAuliffe Joe Sparma |
Tarkus Member Username: Tarkus
Post Number: 59 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.43.115.231
| Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 10:51 pm: | |
Rusty Kuntz |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 16 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:33 am: | |
Harry Heilmann was actually a player for the Tigers, in fact as a youth I used to go swimming at Heilmann's playfield at 7 mile between Hayes and Kelly. Also played little league foe Wisheagan-Heilmann Athletic Club...but again I digress... Favorite Tigers... have to agree about Jim Walewander because his favorite band was The Dead Milkmen....anyone mention Frank Tannana.. proud product of Dertoit Catholic Central back when they were still acctualy located in Detroit. |
Douglasm Member Username: Douglasm
Post Number: 598 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.189.188.28
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 7:04 pm: | |
It was Turn Back The Clock day in Seattle today. The M's were in Seattle Pilots uniforms and the Tigers in grey 1969 road unis. Old English block D on the cap, and "Detroit" in block letters on the jersey. Much better than the script they're using now. M's won, 3-2. So here I am rooting for a team 3 games under .500, 2 and a half out of first in the AL West..... |
Ravine Member Username: Ravine
Post Number: 251 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 68.248.14.37
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 7:42 pm: | |
Tarkus, 'sfunny how ol' Rusty's name looks worse in print than it sounds when spoken, if'n ya know what I mean... |
The_rock Member Username: The_rock
Post Number: 1332 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.42.251.225
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 9:22 pm: | |
George Vico--first base. Only played one season for the Tigers. Hit a HR his first time at bat. Could do "the splits" reaching for the ball to get a runner out at first. His mitt was "the trapper"- I still own one.Still as good as new. |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 32 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44
| Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 11:13 pm: | |
Does anyone remember "Cobb's Lake" the place where he had the groundscrew soke the infield? Also gotta love how the Georgia Peach would sharpen his Steel Cleetes and use them to spike the 2nd basemen's face while he stole 2nd. Unfortunatly as a little leaguer I tried to immitate this with my rubber cleetes and it got me ejected from the game. When I was old enough to realise the kind of person Tyrus Ramond Cobb was, I was ashamed of how he was as a pearson. Still I always refer to him as the "Greatest Baseball player of all times until 1990. |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 552 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.43.107.72
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 12:06 am: | |
who is the greatest now? |
Gumby Member Username: Gumby
Post Number: 1324 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.60.143.186
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 2:18 am: | |
Chitaku, Ummm, howbout Alex "Dirty" Sanchez? How can anyone make such a bold statement about the best ever, especially until such an arbitrary date like 1990? |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 33 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 4:06 am: | |
How about Barroide, I mean Barry Bonds... Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.... But let's keep to this thread... (Message edited by detroitej72 on July 10, 2006) (Message edited by detroitej72 on July 10, 2006) |
Leoqueen
Member Username: Leoqueen
Post Number: 1387 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.204
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 7:22 am: | |
Rocky Colavito was cute. My older sister had a crush on him. |
Spitty Member Username: Spitty
Post Number: 475 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 136.1.1.101
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 8:47 am: | |
Rupert Jones |
Steve Member Username: Steve
Post Number: 15 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 89.1.160.62
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 11:05 am: | |
Lou Berberet |
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal
Post Number: 850 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 136.1.1.33
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 11:11 am: | |
Pat Sheridan |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 972 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.90
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 11:14 am: | |
Gerald "Gee" Walker. My dad was named after him. When you get to 10 kids you run outta saints. |
Gary Member Username: Gary
Post Number: 153 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 66.73.238.3
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 11:33 am: | |
Champ Summers. Got to be one of the best baseball names ever. |
Bobj Member Username: Bobj
Post Number: 772 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.221.183.220
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 12:33 pm: | |
Who was that poor guy that Sparky annointed as the second coming of Mickey mantle or something like that?? I think he played third?? |
Jokerman Member Username: Jokerman
Post Number: 24 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.125.189.14
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 5:09 pm: | |
Thanks to everyone for joining this thread. John Hiller was a great relief pitcher. He lived downstairs from me at the Arlington Apartments on Schoenherr and 14 Mile, (or was it 13 Mile?). |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 35 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 5:41 pm: | |
The second coming of Mantle was Chris Pitaro. Lasted I think 1 whole month in the majors. |
Jtw Member Username: Jtw
Post Number: 92 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 12.159.32.66
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 5:57 pm: | |
i lived a couple doors down from Larry Herndon! player and coach. |
Yaktown Member Username: Yaktown
Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.155.194.175
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 8:44 pm: | |
My dad is 59 years old and he still has his Tom Tresh model baseball glove. It's probably about 50 years old! |
Jokerman Member Username: Jokerman
Post Number: 29 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.125.189.14
| Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 3:48 pm: | |
Isn't it great to have the Tigers involved in a pennant race? The Tigers' Song from 1968 We're all behind our baseball team Go get 'em Tigers! World Series bound and picking up steam, Go get 'em Tigers! There'll be joy in Tigertown, You wait and see, When the Tigers bring the pennant back where it oughtta be, We're all behind our baseball team, Go get 'em, Detroit Tigers Go get'em Tigers! |
Jokerman Member Username: Jokerman
Post Number: 33 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.125.189.14
| Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 5:34 pm: | |
Bump to the top! |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 52 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44
| Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 5:37 pm: | |
Order you playoff tickets... The Tigers get home field in the world series!!! |
Paulmcall
Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 797 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216
| Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:14 pm: | |
Purnel Goldy was a spring training phenom in the early 60's who couldn't hit his way out of a paper bag once the real season started. He only lasted part of the '62 and '63 seasons but he was a flash across the sky down in Lakeland. |
Jokerman Member Username: Jokerman
Post Number: 36 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.125.189.14
| Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 2:46 pm: | |
I remember that name, Purnel Goldy! |
Maxcarey Member Username: Maxcarey
Post Number: 6 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.43.105.109
| Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 7:25 pm: | |
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65memories Member Username: 65memories
Post Number: 262 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.227.86.231
| Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 7:46 pm: | |
Earl Torgeson, 1st baseman (and speaking of "Old Paw Paw", remember his penchant for hitting homers on Sunday!) |
14509glenfield Member Username: 14509glenfield
Post Number: 7 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 207.69.137.207
| Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 8:53 am: | |
Got to this last thread and thought I had something/someone to add...Then appears Earl Torgeson. Saw him steal home. Harvey Kuenn, Rocky Colavito, (ok late 50's, not fair considering this is addressing the mid-60's). I am new to this Detroityes forum. It is great. |
Catman_dude Member Username: Catman_dude
Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 70.174.38.160
| Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 11:28 am: | |
I can only remember the 70's Tigers: Danny Meyer Jason Thompson Auriolo Lopez (can't spell the first name) Lance Parrish Rusty Staub Dave Rozema I switched to being a fair-weather Detroit sports fan after being traumatized with their losing/medicore ways during that time period when I was growing up. |
Steve Member Username: Steve
Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 89.1.160.16
| Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 12:13 pm: | |
Why did they trade Charlie Maxwell for Bob Farley? |
Gumby Member Username: Gumby
Post Number: 1331 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.60.143.186
| Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 4:18 pm: | |
bobj
quote:Who was that poor guy that Sparky annointed as the second coming of Mickey mantle or something like that?? I think he played third??
Wasn't it Rico Brogna? |
65memories Member Username: 65memories
Post Number: 263 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.194.255
| Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 4:44 pm: | |
Speaking of 3rd Base, anyone remember Darnell Coles throwing the ball out of the stadium in anger? |
Bobj Member Username: Bobj
Post Number: 850 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.40.89.238
| Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 6:00 pm: | |
Rico Brogna had high expectations as did Darnall Coles - but I think it was Chris Pittaro (as someone posted who was to be Mickey Mantle Jr) |
Umstucoach Member Username: Umstucoach
Post Number: 57 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 6:09 pm: | |
Paul Gibson, late 80's reliever with Harry Carey glasses, looked like the biggest dork. |
Maxcarey Member Username: Maxcarey
Post Number: 13 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.43.105.109
| Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 6:15 pm: | |
Kirk Gibson was the next Mickey Mantle. Carl Willis was the next Rollie Finger and if you didn't like Torey Louvello, "then you don't like ice cream." |
Hkytwn Member Username: Hkytwn
Post Number: 6 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 9:57 am: | |
Remember Steve Kemp ...If I remember corectly he was traded for CHET LEMON. I love the way Chet would side into first base. |
Hkytwn Member Username: Hkytwn
Post Number: 7 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:18 am: | |
Remeber Ron LaFleur tiger outfielder in the late 70's early 80's when he came back for the LAST GAME at the corner was arested for failing to pay his child support. |
Bobj Member Username: Bobj
Post Number: 863 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.221.183.220
| Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:29 am: | |
Torey Louvello, that was another one of Spark's annointed ones - poor guy! |
Bongman Member Username: Bongman
Post Number: 1185 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128
| Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:35 am: | |
Remember when Al Cowens charged the mound going after pitcher Ed Farmer ? The guy who had broken his jaw with a pitch, causing him to have his mouth wired shut for like 4 months, only able to drink out of a straw. |
Super_d Member Username: Super_d
Post Number: 945 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 70.88.106.173
| Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:58 am: | |
How bout' these greats... Tito Fuentes Ben Olgivie Tommy Veryzer Gary Sutherland Ritchie Hebner Tommy Brookens Later how bout these Big Bats.... Cecil Fielder Mickey Tettleton Rob Deer talk'n bout a bomb squad! super d(motordetroit) |
Steve Member Username: Steve
Post Number: 17 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 89.1.197.39
| Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 12:44 pm: | |
Can't forget that great pitching duo from 1964 (I think) -- Ron Nischwitz and Howie Koplitz. |
Jokerman Member Username: Jokerman
Post Number: 56 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 67.125.189.14
| Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 1:14 pm: | |
Charley Maxwell was also called a "ladies man". Women loved him. |
Bongman Member Username: Bongman
Post Number: 1186 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128
| Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 1:22 pm: | |
I remember going to Bat Day in like 1967 for the first time. The guy handed me my bat and I quickly looked to see who i got.....Don Demeter ! The Sis got Jerry Lumpe. What are the odds ? |
Ravine Member Username: Ravine
Post Number: 303 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 69.220.60.29
| Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 10:35 pm: | |
Max is correct. The "next Mantle" was Gibson. |
Jiminnm Member Username: Jiminnm
Post Number: 973 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.35.85.184
| Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 10:41 pm: | |
Steve Kemp was traded to the CWS for Chet Lemon just after the 1981 season ended. Lemon played for the Tigers until the 1990 season. Kemp and Jason Thompson were supposed to be the Tigers' big 1-2 punch. It never worked out. |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 133 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44
| Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 12:02 am: | |
Wasn't it great how Big George (Steinbrenner, Total butchering of his name) signed Steve Kemp to a 10 year deal & was paying him long after his carear endded. I love to hate the Yanks... |
14509glenfield Member Username: 14509glenfield
Post Number: 15 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 207.69.137.42
| Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 6:27 pm: | |
I love ALL Detroit teams. Born '46. Left in '71. Can't go back before...eh...mid 50's as far as history/recollection/location except for what I read on Detroit Yes. Very positive web site! We all know that. ANY DISCUSSION/ANYTIME/ANY THREAD, I would like to applaud many times over all these current sites many times over. As I mentioned I can only relate to CHANGES in ALL threads since the mid-50's. The creator's of this site, "what ever thead" need to be applauded. |