Thecreator Member Username: Thecreator
Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 160.39.243.60
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 7:24 pm: | |
When Kirk Kerkorian and Jim York came to GM earlier this year, they came with plenty of ideas and much expectation. Months later, now that York's advice has been heeded, and GM MAY be at a turning point, Kerkorian is recommending the same type of business deal he suggested at Chrysler that helped Daimler-Benz essentially take control of that company. If there was ever a good time to rally around one of OUR companies (esp. one that despite it's own financial troubles has poured millions into Detroit's downtown lately) this would be it. http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20060710/AUTO0 2/607100327 |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 694 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 7:39 pm: | |
I don't know if Kerkorian could help Chrysler, but the current series of TV ads featuring Dieter Zetsche certainly are not. They have to be about the dumbest ad clips I have ever seen on TV, and Herr Doktor makes himself look like a total idiot in them. Oh, well. Machs nicht. |
Border5150 Member Username: Border5150
Post Number: 161 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 68.58.208.79
| Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 7:46 pm: | |
Dieter Zetsche is no Lee Iacocca. He makes Iacocca (in those ads Chrysler had back in the 80s) look like Laurence Olivier. |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 8609 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.71.59.224
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:14 am: | |
Ray1936 actually those ads have been a huge success for DCX so far. They now have a 1 day backlog due to the amount of Emails coming through. Of those only a handful are negative (somewhere less that 50 out of thousands). |
Wilus1mj Member Username: Wilus1mj
Post Number: 85 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 216.111.89.3
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:22 am: | |
I think the commericals are great...it's about time they put a face to DaimlerChrysler. |
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch
Post Number: 194 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.65.11.152
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:47 am: | |
I say the DCX commercials are a good thing. They put the "Global" thing (here to stay) right up front and in our face. The timing is good for GM to follow if they go that way. (Message edited by thnk2mch on July 11, 2006) |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 698 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 12:00 pm: | |
Sorry, I repeat; they are the stupidest ads I've seen in a long time. If they are increasing sales for Chrysler, it merely demonstrates the intelligence of the average American once again. Sigh. |
Bongman Member Username: Bongman
Post Number: 1171 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 12:40 pm: | |
Not only are they stupid Ray, but they lose any possible effect when I have to see the damn thing 50 times during each Tiger broadcast. How frickin' lame ! I never knew I could change the station so fast. |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 700 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 1:46 pm: | |
"Ach, du lieber! Sitzen in das automachin, und vatch das daschenboard! Hier gecommen das luftbag! Duckensie! Mach schnell! Ooops, alles kaput......." |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 2672 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 128.36.14.165
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 2:12 pm: | |
Which are worse ... the Chrysler ads or the VW ads with the bad guy from Fargo playing a near as I can tell a cross between a bad guy from Die Hard and a middle aged wigga ...? |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 353 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 209.220.229.254
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 3:00 pm: | |
Un-pimp ze autoooo? |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 2673 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 128.36.14.165
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 3:02 pm: | |
Jå |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 564 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.43.107.72
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 3:14 pm: | |
anyone think Dr. Z kind of looks like he could be David Cross' dad. Look at the huge pic of him on the Chrysler building in AH |
Rberlin Member Username: Rberlin
Post Number: 570 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 75.7.197.102
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 5:26 pm: | |
I love Dr. Zetsche and will hurt anyone who talks bad about him. GM-Renault is a stupid idea. GM is really hurting for those 3 extra brands isn't it? But on the bright side, a merger with Nissan would eliminate their need for a Nashville headquarters. The new motorcity my ass. |
Thecreator Member Username: Thecreator
Post Number: 4 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 160.39.252.37
| Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 9:25 pm: | |
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20060711/AUTO0 1/607110388 So I realize swift decisions aren't exactly Wagoner's forte but I'd have to see a quick "NO!" on this one. |
Trainman Member Username: Trainman
Post Number: 108 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 6:19 pm: | |
We win some and lose some We Lose -- GM, FORD and Chrysler We Win -- DARTA, SMART, DDOT On August 8, 2006 many will vote to renew the SMART property tax. See how much the car companies will give to help save SMART See how many made in the USA products you will buy Imagine, there is NO money from the Michigan Department of Transportation MDOT to help pay for SMART It's easy if you try. (Message edited by Trainman on July 12, 2006) |
Designut Member Username: Designut
Post Number: 35 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 65.123.68.93
| Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:03 am: | |
I have to agree with Ray. The DCX ads are attrocious and show exactly how much of a self-serving asshole "Dr. Z." is. Oh and BTW, to answer the question posed in one of the t.v. spots, "are you really a doctor?" The answer is no, he is NOT. In Germany if you have your Masters degree you gain the title "Doctor". Here in the U.S. you simply have a master's. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 1053 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42
| Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 1:32 pm: | |
Who cares if he's a "Docter" or not? Ads don't have to be not "atrocious" in order to be effective. Getting one's attention is over half the battle with mass advertising, and apparently it got the attention of a few, if only for them to complain... |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 1998 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.106
| Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 1:34 pm: | |
He is a doctor. He recieved a doctorate in engineering from the Technical University of Paderborn. |
Itsjeff
Member Username: Itsjeff
Post Number: 6388 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125
| Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 1:38 pm: | |
Well, hell. My 12-year old could get a doctorate in engineering from the Technical University of Paderborn. <--never heard of the Technical University of Paderborn. <--also doesn't have a 12-year old. <--a 12-year old hangover |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2000 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.106
| Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 1:43 pm: | |
I'm sure the Dr. Zetsche has never heard of the University you graduated from either. :P |