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Aiw
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 8:31 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is today's P.D.J.
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Machoken
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 8:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

The Grinnell crest graced their products.



Interesting. I don't recall a crest on my wife's Grinnell piano.
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Aiw
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 9:42 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Machoken, from what I understand, there should have been maybe a small plate? Maybe the crest was inside?

I have seen the crest on their printed sheet music. I cannot vouch for pianos... Maybe someone else can chime in. I am only going by what I read.
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Rustic
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Grinnells actually made their own line of pianos in their own factory (their factory was waay up somewhere up hear Frankenmuth, I think). They also made pianos for other regional music stores with labels slapped on for those store brands. I'm not sure if Grinnells sold pianos from other mfg's back in the olden days. The influx of cheep but good japanese pianos combined with the end of families with piano lesson aged baby boomer children in the 70's killed their business model. In the end I believe they stopped selling their own brand of piano. Mrs. Machken's piano might have been purchased toward the end of grinnells run thus no label.
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Rustic
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok from this link:

http://info.detnews.com/histor y/story/index.cfm?id=130&categ ory=business

it appears I got a few facts wrong (e.g. the factory was in some place called "Holly" wherever that is) but overall not too bad for recalling off the top of my head, eh?
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Dnvn522
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:26 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You've never driven past "Mt. Holly" on I-75?
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Machoken
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:32 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going to check tonight but I think our piano was made much earlier than the 70s. We bought it from an old neighbor who was moving to a retirement home a few years back. I want to say it was made in the 20s, but I'm going to check.

By the way, we moved it across the state in the back of a Ryder moving van, and it didn't even need to be tuned once we unloaded it. That was pretty surprising!
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Rustic
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I was a kid we rarely went north of 10 mile
(so north of Pontiac might as well have been the dark side of the moon). when I am back in Detroit now I'm almost never much north of Maple Rd. ... too busy playing Mom's piano (nope not a Grinnell's) I guess ... Sounds pretty tho ... "Mt. Holly" sounds like somewhere Santa Claus would go on vacation ... is it nice? Is the piano factory still there?
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Dnvn522
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 11:07 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL. You must not be a skier then...

http://www.skimtholly.com/dire ctions.asp

You can see the ski slopes just east of I-75, and the town of Holly is just west of I-75.
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Hornwrecker
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 9:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It took me awhile to find the photo, because I misfiled it, but here is the Grinnell Brothers Piano Factory on Jones, between 1st and Cass.

Grinnell Bros Piano Factory

The 1921 Sanborn map for the building.

Grinnell Bros Piano Factory 1921

From 1912-15 the Grinnel Bros also manufactured electric automobiles, which may have been made at this factory. Anyone?

They also had a warehouse at 1447 1st and State Sts.
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Machoken
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I can't seem to figure out when the piano was made. I figured I'd find it somewhere, and I pulled the darned thing away from the wall so I could look at the back. I peeked inside and saw 'GRINNELL BROS' embedded in whatever you call the metal slab that the strings are attached too. Another indication of it being Grinnell is much easier to find:
piano
The only other thing I found was '993' engraved inside the piano. Not sure if that means much of anything other than possibly that it was the 993rd piano of that model that was made.

But, no family crest. Maybe like Rustic said it was made toward the end of Grinnell's run, or perhaps it is simply a lower end piano - it's just a small upright. Very nicely built though, and at one time it had a beautiful finish, you can see the original finish if you lift up the music stand.
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Aiw
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 11:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it means that is was made in 993 a.d.

:-)

Maybe what I heard was wrong... that's possible too...
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Urbanvaquero
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 11:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I played a Grinnell back in the day. Beautiful sounding instrument, and hardly ever needed tuning. It was an upright. I took it apart one day to look at the inner workings and the crest in the mausoleum photo did appear on the stringboard, or whatever the hell one calls it. I don't know if it appeared here on all of their pianos, but you might check there, M'Ken.


--Brenda
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Machoken
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Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 6:14 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks. I did look on the stringboard, unfortunately the piano is quite compact (I wish I knew the appropriate language to use...). I'd say it's a compact upright? Anyway, it's so compact that you can only see the top 12 inches or so of the string board. It's quite possible that the string board does have the crest on it, but I just can't see it. I found this image of a Grinnell on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Grinnell-B ros-Upright-Piano_W0QQitemZ130 003906077QQihZ003QQcategoryZ43 377QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayph otohosting
Notice that one of the pictures that you can blow up says 'Grinnell Bros Detroit Windsor'.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 12:51 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Hornwrecker and AIW, Rustic. Great comments. Good pictures.

The Grinnell grave site is pure Chicago Prairie style of Louis Sullivan in design. It looks more Sullivanesque than the master hisself.

Was Sullivan involved?

jjaba.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 12:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeeezes, AIW, spell the man's name right. Grinnell.

AIW needs to take his time when we prints up a post.

jjaba, printer.

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