  Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 141 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.40.65.66 |
whats the status of that project? I know it's in a shitty area and everything...but the announcement last year on ModelD seemed like everything was pretty much shored up in terms of financing | ||
Chow Member Username: Chow Post Number: 303 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.31.218 |
Skipper's rule. | ||
Reetz12 Member Username: Reetz12 Post Number: 63 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 68.40.172.108 |
Over Budget on the construction side. General Contractor still hasn't been picked. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4600 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
If you don't have the proposals. DON'T PLAN! AND DON'T BUILD! | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 89 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.171.81.130 |
I love how people think it is so easy to make a housing development happen. It takes a lot of time and a lot of money. It is pretty much a full time job. If it were that easy, there would not be so many empty buildings. If there were more people downtown, more projects might happen. It is really easy to talk big on a forum but I wonder how many people here would put money where their mouth is. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6406 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Thank you, Rjlj. Prior to that post, I thought it was simple to develop real estate in Detroit. Boy was I wrong. | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2011 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.233 |
I keep asking the same question.  | ||
Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 898 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.221.183.220 |
I hope this one goes, it would really help get that part of town moving! | ||
Lurker Member Username: Lurker Post Number: 1672 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 65.196.220.198 |
I think I would prefer that it remained empty as opposed to some yuppies with disposable income moving in there. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2467 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.72.67 |
See now, you guys and your sarcasm.... for Noob's today it becomes ever more difficult to sift the "fluff from the gruff" (people who really do care about Detroit, and those who don't)... (I have a feeling that "fluff" comment is gonna get a rise)... | ||
Bussey Member Username: Bussey Post Number: 198 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 206.208.94.60 |
i hate them damn hippies, i mean yuppies. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4605 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
Let the Yuppies come to Detroit. At least there the ones are bringing in the hip cool culture for the "ME" Generation | ||
Llyn Member Username: Llyn Post Number: 1609 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206 |
Maybe it's time we defined our stereotypes if we're going to use them. First--- Yuppies - are not the only people moving to Detroit. Yuppies - do not bring in hip cool culture, per se. Yuppies - are not the equivalent of the ME generation. The ME generation - a term that has been applied twice: First to the decade of the 70's in general when much of the activism of the 60's changed to making money. These people (often thought of as ex-hippies) eventually became known as yuppies - a term invented finally in the early 80's. (Today the stereotype term "yuppie" often is given a broader common usage as any young urban professional people who are materialistic and absorbed in making money.) Second. More particularly (and unfairly) the term ME Generation is applied now to those labeled as "Generation X". The stereotype is very unfair since this group actually tend to have a very high level of volunteerism. However, they seem to organize less into the highly visible movements of the sixties... more often preferring more pragmatic and localized activities. (Message edited by llyn on July 20, 2006) | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 593 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.42.23.2 |
my interpretation fo yuppies on this forum (meaning what others are trying to say)is white, makes nice bread and are trendy bandwagon Detroiters.. thats a very broad generalization But like it was said before, those aren't the only ones moving in/back to Detroit... | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4607 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
Yuppies - do not bring in hip cool culture, per se. Yuppies - are not the equivalent of the ME generation. OH YES THEY DO. Yuppies today are changing their culture from a corporate look into a Hip Hop look just to lure the next generation of kids and young adults and blend in with them even through the " ME" Generation. | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 90 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.171.81.130 |
What the hell are you people talking about and what is with all the labels? I love going to places like NYC and Chicago where people don't seem to care what you are and can coexist without so much disdain. Detroit will continue to be stuck and never progress with the attitudes portrayed on this forum. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6409 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Rjlj, have you ever heard of the word, "sarcasm?" | ||
7even Member Username: 7even Post Number: 90 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 12.148.42.25 |
What's Sarcasm? | ||
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister Post Number: 764 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 70.229.254.181 |
I don't think this will help the one's who are the victim of it, but this is fun! "Sarcasm: The gap between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it." From... http://whyyouarewrong.blogspot .com/2005/05/nasa-science-unco vers-texts-of-trojan.html "sar·casm Audio pronunciation of "sarcasm" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (särkzm) n. 1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound. 2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule. From dictionary.com later - naturalsister (Message edited by naturalsister on July 20, 2006) (Message edited by naturalsister on July 20, 2006) | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 159 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 72.229.136.103 |
I thought it was funny. Anyway it will be goog to see the hotel redeveloped. The Carlton is great. That place will be hot. 313 | ||
Gumby Member Username: Gumby Post Number: 1333 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.60.143.186 |
I'm sorry but I really get annoyed ny the arrogance of the "Put your money where your mouth is" crowd. Like everyone has the money to invest in the city. It must be real nice to be able to disregard us lesser people. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6422 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
It's awesome! | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6423 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
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Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1800 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
I've been told that the developers of the Carlton and a few other nearby buildings will be working on the Edystone when they are basically finished with what they are doing now. | ||
Wmuchris Member Username: Wmuchris Post Number: 346 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.246.19.24 |
What are they doing now? | ||
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1802 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
The Carlton and at least one of its neighbors (Lamar or something like that). The Carlton is the big project that is tying them up. | ||
Slows Member Username: Slows Post Number: 137 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.246.28.200 |
The delays stem from a water pressure issue that occurred at the Carlton due to the new infrastructure that was done in Brush Park. Due to this unit deliveries were delayed at the Carlton which in turn delayed the Eddystone. | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2013 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105 |
The problem is Gumby, you think all projects take a shit load of money. Many don't. Sure you're not going to be able to do a job like the Vinton without a track record and a small pile of money. But there are many undervalued houses in nice neighborhoods that can be done for a fraction of the moeny the big buildings downtown would take. There are plenty of simple houses that can be bought for a song and rehabbed with sweat equity. They won't have great architecture or be in incredible locations. They however are reasonable houses that can be bought, rehabbed and turned over for a reasonable profit. People can't do Vinton type projects on their first try. All of the principals in the Vinton project have leveraged money from other projects they have completed. Many of those earlier projects were done by people with almost no money. We just took a little cash, borrowed money from friends and relatives, sucked up the risk, put aside our apprehensions and got on with it. The only one keeping you down is you. | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 92 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.171.81.130 |
My issue is when people complain about how things are not getting done or if something is getting done, they complain how it should be done a certain way. There really is no consideration about how much it actually costs and the time it takes to do projects that are as large as this will be. It is not about arrogance and haivng more money than others, I see it as having the guts and the foresite and taking a risk with making something happen. You have to borrow money to make money. | ||
Gumby Member Username: Gumby Post Number: 1334 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.60.143.186 |
That and a 7 dollar an hour job Ndavies with 400 dollar a month student loan payment coming up. Some people really do not have even a little to spare help in this revitalization. Trust me I am working on the 7 dollar an hour job problem. Yes I realize that not all the things cost much money but you always bring this up on the threads about things that do cost a lot (i.e. Hotel Eddystone, BC, Fort Shelby, etc.). I think it is really cool that you guys are getting the Vinton done and think it is great that you have the money to do it. But please don't disregard those of us that don't. People seem to scoff at the thing that we try to do with no money as well. I get tired of hearing tht downtown cleanups, neighborhood cleanups, friends of (insert building/park here), etc. don't do anything to solve the problems. While that may or may not be true, it is certainly a lot better than sitting on your ass doing nothing. | ||
Bussey Member Username: Bussey Post Number: 201 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.212.228.190 |
The problem is that the Eddystone project is being organized by the same ASShole who built my condo, Jim Wickenheiser. He is a shady fellow and I wish that some news organization would so an expose on some of his shifty business practices. -never installing a water meter -selling garages that are on city owned land -wiring commonly owned property to an individual unit The list goes on an on ... Jim Wickenheiser, the man behind DETROIT URBAN LIVING, is not to be trusted, dealt with, or recognized as anything less than scum! That felt good... | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4619 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.235 |
HAH! He's known to the STREET PROPHET'S as the Con Artist of FEAR! | ||
Brandon48202 Member Username: Brandon48202 Post Number: 97 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.21.39.161 |
Bussey- did you buy in the Van Vliet? Did you get your NEZ? | ||
Rocket_city Member Username: Rocket_city Post Number: 88 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 141.217.173.57 |
Bussey, unless the guy is a friend of the mayor, call the Problem Solvers. I think there must still be room in the Hall of Shame. |
