Bornindetroit Member Username: Bornindetroit
Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.19.202.218
| Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 5:44 pm: | |
Is there currently an occupied building at 3126 E. Fort Street? 1930 census lists as "Parental Home for Boys", referencing its 18 residents, ages 10-13, as "inmates" . |
Hamtramck_steve Member Username: Hamtramck_steve
Post Number: 3121 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.220.68.91
| Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 5:57 pm: | |
3126 East Fort doesn't come up anywhere. The same number on West Fort is right where the Ambassador Bridge crosses over. |
Bornindetroit Member Username: Bornindetroit
Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.19.202.218
| Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 6:25 pm: | |
Perhaps census taker was disoriented. Is there a building at 3126 W.Fort? |
Hamtramck_steve Member Username: Hamtramck_steve
Post Number: 3122 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.220.68.91
| Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 7:25 pm: | |
Not anymore, but I'm sure there was at one time. The other possibility is that the 3100 block of East Fort was vacated. |
Fury13
Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 1174 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.251.28
| Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 7:42 pm: | |
The other possibility is that the 3100 block of East Fort was vacated. Probability, you mean. The 3100 block of East Fort would have been in the Black Bottom area that urban renewal reshaped in the late '50s to mid-'60s, near Elmwood Cemetery. That block of East Fort would have been near McDougall. Lots of streets in the old grid were vacated in that area: parts of Joseph Campau, Clinton, Mullett, Macomb, Monroe, etc. (Message edited by Fury13 on July 30, 2006) |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 1354 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 216.203.223.93
| Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 9:46 pm: | |
I just checked it on an old street map, and Fury is correct, between Jos Campau and McDougall. If I get time I'll look at the Sanborns tomorrow. |
Neilr Member Username: Neilr
Post Number: 309 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.242.223.67
| Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 10:24 pm: | |
My 1895 Rand McNally Detroit map shows East Fort going as far east as Meldrum, stopping for several blocks, and then picking up for another block between Canton and Helen. I believe 3126 East Fort is now incorporated into the Ralph Bunche Coop. |
Fury13
Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 1175 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.251.28
| Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 12:43 am: | |
IMO, it was dumb to obliterate the old street grid when the area was redeveloped. The grid system is still the best to create a walkable neighborhood, sense of community, and a feeling that different areas are interconnected. |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 1361 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 66.2.148.63
| Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 9:40 pm: | |
The 1922 Sanborn map shows the Firnane School at 3126 E. Fort St, a 2 story building just east of McDougall. The Firnane School opened in 1882 and was part of DPS, it must have been sold off, or changed names. (Message edited by Hornwrecker on July 31, 2006) |
Mccarch Member Username: Mccarch
Post Number: 81 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.212.44.52
| Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:08 pm: | |
One thing leads to another. That Michigan State Telephone Co - Edgewood Exchang Building looks interesting. I checked the list of projects in the Smith Hinchman & Grylls (they must have done every Michigan Bell building) book, and I couldn't find it. I bet it was a damn good looking building. Anyone got a photo? |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 1363 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 66.2.148.63
| Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:22 pm: | |
That's why I made a larger area of that school. When is Mikem getting back from vacation? There was a thread that I forgot about, on the old Ma Bell buildings. Another thread for the HOF page. Looking for Parental Home for Boys only turns up one of that same name in Queens, NY. I wonder if that was a common name for that type of institution. Maybe Firnane School was the DPS's juvie. |
Neilr Member Username: Neilr
Post Number: 312 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.242.223.67
| Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 11:16 pm: | |
Neither Farmer in his history of Detroit nor Jeffrey Mirel in his history of DPS mention the Firnane School. (At least there's nothing indexed in either text.) Geocities states that the school opened in 1882. http://www.geocities.com/histm ich/detschools.html |
Bornindetroit Member Username: Bornindetroit
Post Number: 3 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.19.202.218
| Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 1:54 am: | |
Thank you so much for the information and Sanborn image about 3126! My outsider's peep at Ancestry.com shows text stating that Thomas S. Sprague's 1883 self published "Sprague's Visitors Guide and Dictionary of Detroit and Vicinity" includes the Firnane School...a 6 room building.... Also,the 1880 Michigan Census list Michael Firnane, 28 yr old Detroit Attorney; perhaps he was exceptionally accomplished. |