  E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 859 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.242.215.8 |
So Fresh and So Clean http://www.modeldmedia.com/fea tures/clean54.aspx | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1740 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
Well...well...I never knew how to spell Alok. | ||
The_fly Member Username: The_fly Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.214.191.127 |
I think the article is a bunch of crap. This is not a new initative; it has been in place for 5 years. This year it's a larger crew, new uniforms, new trucks with power washing units and new street sweeping units. This year it is run by Penske with DDP faciliting it. This year the crew is provided by Goodwill as in the past the crew was from Preferred Building Services. But in my opinion it is not better; NOT EVEN CLOSE!!! This crew and its leaders do not cover the Financial District as they have in years past. I could go outside for a smoke at any time of the day and see at least one person with a broom and dustpan. Now I am lucky if I see one a week. Oh yeah, and when I do see someone near my corner (Griswold & Congress) it is not one person but 3 or 4 all walking together. Now tell me why the fuck 4 people need to walk together all with brooms and dustpans. One person is sufficent. Maybe if they weren't all buddied up they would be able to cover more ground. The sidewalks on my corner are not cleaner because of Clean Detroit; they are clean because of the buildings cleaning crews getting outside and doing it themselves. Oh but when Clean Detroit does get out and do power washing it is at 9am in front of Starbucks while people are trying to get coffee and get to work. WTF Why aren't they doing this when they start in the morning or in the evening after business hours. That is if they are truly starting at 4am and working into the evening as the article says. I can't believe that the buildings in the Financial District paid a minimum of $3,000 for this service and see it being done to medicore standards compaired to years past. This is a joke this year. Lets talk about graffitti on electrical boxes around downtown. In the past two weeks I have driven all streets within the Clean Detroit district and approx. 75% of these boxes have been tagged. When I placed a call to Clean Detroit I was told by an inside source that they do not have any plans for painting. What a joke; last year and the three years previously the supervisor was there first thing in the morning painting everything that had been tagged. I never saw an electrical box go more than 3 days without being painted and now it has been weeks. Clean Detroit and DDP need to get over themselves. They are not doing better this year. It's a front DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!!!! | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 642 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.246.10.173 |
so you would rather settle for Penske and the city to have not made the old plan grander and left it looking dirty down there? that's what your saying right? Yes there are other things which need work, BUT there is no cure all or anything, but I am sure they would be happy for you to paint over the tagged boxes and pitch in.. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 2387 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.54.234 |
the_fly - bitch, bitch, bitch...I hope when you are outside smoking you aren't flicking your butts on the street? | ||
Messykitty Member Username: Messykitty Post Number: 44 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.21.198.33 |
I've always found it ironic that ashtrays outside the doors of buildings started disappearing right around the same time smoking inside buildings started to become outlawed. | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 647 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.246.10.173 |
they moved em around back by the dumpsters... | ||
Hamtramck_steve Member Username: Hamtramck_steve Post Number: 3129 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 136.181.195.17 |
Looks like the fly broke DYes forum rule #1: Any article about something positive in Detroit is never wrong, misleading or poorly written and must never be criticized. (Rule #2 is related: Any article about Detroit's negatives is automatically null and void, pointless and racist unless either or both of the following phrases appear in the lead paragraph: "...on par with every other large city..." or "...no worse than the suburbs..." Fly, you've got to get with the program. It doesn't matter whether or not the cleaning program is more or less thorough this year. It has Roger Penske leading it!!!! Don't you see what that means??? If it's not obvious to you, you must be a suburban Detroit hater. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6511 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Hi, Fly! | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2059 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 |
I worked downtown for a few years and have lived down there for almost two years and have never seen anyone picking up trash and cleaning the sidewalks until Penske raised funds to put this team together. The fly sounds like a bitter because these are not unionized city workers. I could careless about the articles or the DY rules my problem is the fly is full of shit. Downtown is cleaner then it has been in years. | ||
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed Post Number: 420 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 209.220.229.254 |
I also worked downtown, and the only cleaning staff I ever saw were the ones employed by Comerica Tower, and of course they don't stray off the property. | ||
Mcpd1300 Member Username: Mcpd1300 Post Number: 112 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 71.65.18.109 |
It sounds to me like what the fly is talking about is the staff in his building that would go out and clean the sidewalk in front of his building. Preferred Building Services does not sound like a company the CoD would have clean the entire CBD. It sounds like a company a building's owner would hire to clean the exterior of it's building. The Clean Downtown group is new and didn't exist in the past. | ||
The_fly Member Username: The_fly Post Number: 79 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.229.230.70 |
Well let's see so much to respond to Viziondetroit, Mcpd1300, ilovedetroit, merchantgander: Detroit Downtown Inc has had a voluntary BID program for the past 5 years including this year. The past years the workers wore blue shirts, were employed by preferred building services, were not city employees or unionized workers. They cleaned all of the Central Business District including power washing. Property Owners in the district have contributed to this now for years. What is disturbing to me is that now that a "big name" is involved it is so good and things are so clean. I don't think they are. Also my cigarrettes find themselves into the ashtrays. ItsJeff: Hi yourself-when are we gonna get together? Miss ya. HamtramckSteve: I get the rules but I don't always agree with them. In this particular case I see the money the owners of my building are spending on this service (just as in years past. Again this is not a new thing) and it just is not as good. Detroit Downtown, Inc along with Preferred Building Services did a much better job, in my opinion. Furthermore, the areas that were suppose to be clean were. The area has expanded this year which is a great thing but the service has suffered as a result of that. | ||
Eric_c Member Username: Eric_c Post Number: 802 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.76.202.10 |
I e-mailed Clean Downtown yesterday afternoon asking if they would tend to the graffitti on the Grand Circus Garage entrance ramp at the north end of Washington Boulevard. Just this afternoon a representative called my cell phone and told me that they appreciated my comments and would be starting on the graffitti removal next week. They said they were waiting for the temperature to come down a little more. I'm certainly impressed and not just because they called. I've noticed all of Downtown is clean. Now if we could just broaden it! | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 6226 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.200.152.149 |
They were all over Eastern Market today...even though two street cleaners run at least twice a week down here. They should get them brighter shirts for the warm weather, though, those maroon ones MUST get hot quickly. I didn't see any of 'em actually cleaning, but they might've just gotten off their shuttle vans/trucks. It was actually the trucks that first caught my attention...great skyline graphic and logo. Looks cool. I was too busy trying to get down to Zeff's for a late breakfast to notice much beyond my nose...glad to see them in my 'hood, though. Hope they got to that parking lot on the SE corner of the Fire Department Maintenance Facility. It would be great to have one less thing to complain about...reluctant griper that I am. | ||
The_fly Member Username: The_fly Post Number: 80 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.229.230.70 |
Hey Gannon, I don't think the crew you saw was Clean Detroit. Clean Detroit's boundaries don't extend to Eastern Market and their uniforms are green. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2063 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 |
Yes it was clean Detroit because their trucks were there on Monday. I was surprised to see them because I didn't think their boundaries extended to EM. | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 1105 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
they have talked about extending their boundaries to the river, and the other 3 sides bounded by the freeways. |
