  Mcpd1300 Member Username: Mcpd1300 Post Number: 116 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 71.65.18.109 |
I figured this should probably be posted on here 'cause this has been going on for a few days now and I know a lot of people on the forum are out exploring around the city... http://www.wxyz.com/wxyz/nw_lo cal_news/article/0,2132,WXYZ_1 5924_4899642,00.html Amber Alert: Search for Girl Continues By 7 Action News August 7, 2006 An Amber Alert remains in effect Monday for a missing girl from Detroit. 7-year-old Raven Jeffries was last seen on Detroit's west side on Friday night. She is 4-feet, 2-inches tall and weighs 65 pounds. Raven was wearing a light blue button-up shirt with cuffs and flip flops with flowers. Anyone with information is asked to contact police at (313) 596 5301. and from ClickOnDetroit.com Police And FBI Searching For Young Detroit Girl POSTED: 5:57 pm EDT August 5, 2006 UPDATED: 8:21 am EDT August 7, 2006 Brenda Jeffries is asking for anyone who has seen her 7-year-old daughter to contact Detroit police. Raven Jeffries was last seen on McDonald Street in Southwest Detroit, just outside the front door of her own home. She was last seen around 7:00 p.m. on Friday night. Her brother, David, asked her to stay on the porch while he went down the street, the mother said. Her mother thought she was at a neighbors house, until they could not find her. Police spent the weekend using tracking dogs, searching abandoned homes, woods and waterways in Southwest Detroit. Raven Jeffries is 4 feet, 2 inches tall, 65 pounds. She was wearing a light blue button down shirt, pajama bottoms, and flip-flops with flowers on them. Anyone with information, call Detroit police at 313-596-5314. (Message edited by mcpd1300 on August 07, 2006) | ||
Steelworker Member Username: Steelworker Post Number: 707 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 70.227.14.202 |
I just found out from coworkers she was found strangled and raped today just 2 blocks from my work. | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 360 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
What kind of sick ass does that to a child? | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 910 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.14.30.175 |
detroitteacher, why are you so vulgar? | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 364 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
Carl, what would you call him? | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 912 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.14.30.175 |
detroitteacher, i would call any individual involved in the attack depraved and hideous. "what kind of depraved and hideous individual would see that happen to a child?" nonetheless, such is still an egotistical plea in lieu of a prayer for those affected. that is the point. | ||
Kiplinger Member Username: Kiplinger Post Number: 16 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 208.44.60.32 |
they have been unable to identify the body found in Romulus as Raven as the body has been badly burned: http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20060808/NEWS99/ 60808015 BTW, just wondering...is there really a difference other than semantics between a 'sick ass' and 'a depraved and hideous individual'? Isn't the point that we all agree the person who did this is disturbed and should fry (that is if we had the death penalty)? | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 465 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 216.45.2.138 |
If the child comes up dead, the person responsible for the crime deserves the DEATH PENALTY! | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 849 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216 |
Bet it's a friend of the family or relative. | ||
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen Post Number: 1485 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.57 |
Late this afternoon, I heard WJR News report that a family friend is a person of interest in the case. | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 477 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 216.45.2.138 |
Devastating! http://www.clickondetroit.com/ news/9674182/detail.html | ||
Jenniferl Member Username: Jenniferl Post Number: 310 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 12.75.43.161 |
So sad... She was such a pretty little girl. My heart goes out to Raven's family, especially her mother. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 92 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44 |
Hope they find and prosicute the bastard so he can face the "prison justice" that will be administered. | ||
Wilus1mj Member Username: Wilus1mj Post Number: 100 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 216.111.89.3 |
and prosecute them. | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 478 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 216.45.2.138 |
Bring back the DEATH PENALTY! | ||
Kiplinger Member Username: Kiplinger Post Number: 23 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 208.44.60.32 |
I think the death penalty should be a sentencing option for anyone who commits a crime against a child. Several states already have this law in place. | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 111 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 24.11.168.99 |
I have always been against the death penalty in all cases, however right now I believe even I can make an exception to my beliefs. Stories like this anger me just as much as they sadden me. How someone could commit such a horrible act against a child is beyond anything I will ever understand. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 3195 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.183.207 |
Why do people always differentiate between crimes against children and crimes against adults? I don't care if the victim is 8 or 82, the penalties should be harsh and evenly applied. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4802 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
Its for a drug deal vendetta. One of the relatives who do drugs didn't pay back the money for the use of street drugs so the drug dealers retaliated by kiddaping their 7-year-old Raven Jeffries from their ghettohood, took the girl to indisclosed location, problably raped and kill her and later burn her body to cover up the evidence. THAT COULD HAD BEEN A PREJECTION. Most Drug Dealers these days have a policy called "loan or kill." If you don't pay back the money to the drug dealer for the narcotic you use, they would likely kill you or take your kids, or other possessions that you have. | ||
Firefly Member Username: Firefly Post Number: 52 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 198.30.81.2 |
It's not about differentiating crimes against children vs. crimes against adults. However, children are very vulnerable in society. Adults are children's voices. We must speak on their behalf. Therefore, when a helpless (and voiceless) child is harmed in any degree, there should be an overwhelming outcry. The problem with this society is that we don't value children enough. Therefore, this "off with their heads" battlecry is very appropriate in this case. | ||
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap Post Number: 533 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 70.229.231.102 |
So, in your minds, sociatal justice systems should avenge and revenge crime? I believe that, as a society, we should remove the offender from society in punishment, but society should not seek to avenge the crime. Government exists primarily to protect life, not to decide whether someone should live or die.Taking a life in anger and revenge justs puts us all on the same plane as a murderer. In this case, unless there's an eyewitness (and there appears not to be) who will know for certain that the accused is the one? The Prosecutor says that there are several suspects and several motives. A jury will decide if the the accused is guilty - but with some existential doubt. Even a confession has turned out, in previous cases, to be in error. Under these circumstances, when do we have a collective right to take a life? The accused may not believe that life is sacred - but I do, even an ugly, guilty, twisted life is not mine to take. | ||
Kiplinger Member Username: Kiplinger Post Number: 24 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 208.44.60.32 |
we differentiate between crimes against adulst and children because in general children cannot defend themselves and look to adults for leadership and guidance not violence and killing. Most adults are more cautious and can defend themselves. Neither type of crime is excusable. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 3196 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.183.207 |
Yeah, I'm sure a 40 year old woman can defend herself against an adult male. | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 363 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 67.107.47.65 |
Some could. Women aren't all puny and helpless. Some work out and take martial arts you know. What a sexist statement. | ||
Kiplinger Member Username: Kiplinger Post Number: 26 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 208.44.60.32 |
i agree - sexist comment. Plus, did you miss the "Most adults" part? Jeez... | ||
Paulc Member Username: Paulc Post Number: 73 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 159.53.78.143 |
Firefly said: "The problem with this society is that we don't value children enough." Although I agree with that sentiment, the root is that "we don't value LIFE enough." As civilized as we believe ourselves to be in this country, we still live in a violence-orientated society. Czar - I agree with your statements as well - and correct me if I'm wrong - that the crux of your argument is that we often try to "quantify" violent acts, as in a child's life is more "precious" than an adult's etc. We see it everyday. Any loss of life due to the hands of another - regardless of religious views, etc. is unfortunate. And very well said Southwestmap. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 3197 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 129.137.183.207 |
"Czar - I agree with your statements as well - and correct me if I'm wrong - that the crux of your argument is that we often try to "quantify" violent acts, as in a child's life is more "precious" than an adult's etc. We see it everyday. Any loss of life due to the hands of another - regardless of religious views, etc. is unfortunate." Indeed, you got it. Unlike the morons who labeled me sexist. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4808 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
We only Human Beings! Through our wills we can choose to live or die, kill or cure, sing or rap, make money or be poor, worship God, Allah, Jehovah, Shi Krisha, Shinto, Budha, Doe, Jim Jones, Charles Manson, David Koresh, Elvis, Satan, Ra, Thor, Quezacoatl, Zoaster, Zeus, Juptier, Dagon, Gozer The Gozerian, Kali Ma, Set, Aton ect,.. or be a atheist. We be a democrat or a Republican, A leader or a follower, we can love or hate, do drugs or not, be a drunkard be sober, be a gambler or save your money, raise kids or be give them up. Create a civilization or destroy it. Make peace or do war, make mistakes or correct it. After all we are only human beings. | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 391 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
Danny, I doubt this little girl had a choice of life or death...as you say she did by her own free will. I could get killed tomorrow but it would be through no fault of my own doing. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4815 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
Well Detroitteacher, Like God sez, WE ARE LIVING IN THE LAST DAYS! ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN TO US. RIGHT NOW! |
