  Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 834 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.213.101 |
Wah. I posted a thread last week or earlier about the bar at 150 W Jefferson. In the post I complained that there was a cover charge (one among many complaints) and I compared it to other successful bars like Cliff Bells and Buzz that don't ask for cover. Well...shut me up. Last night as I and several friends strolled in to Cliff Bells...$3 cover charge. Oh well...so much for that. I asked to talk to the owner and did. He was very nice and said they needed to do that to pay for the band. I told him that my vote was to charge $1 more per drink to make it up...he said that they like to charge less for drinks. I told him my vote was a big NO! That nothing can spoil a mood worse than a door cover charge. But I understand it's not a democracy. He did say one thing that really disturbed me...he said that there were people that liked the cover charge, and that one guy liked it because "it gave the bar a sense of exclusivity." BARF BARF BARF. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 191 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.138 |
Yeah, lots of bars do that... I used to play bass in band in the Ferndale area back in 2001-2002...a typical gig would involve a $5 cover charge, which we and any other bands playing would get 100% of and split it amongst us, while the bar owner made his or her money on the increase in drink sales from the people that we brought in. (Message edited by thejesus on August 13, 2006) | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 3968 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.2.230 |
Wow memories of Centre Street are flooding back. Who could forget their successful cover charge policy. Half the fun of going to Harmonie Park was dickering down the cover charge with the bouncer and then going somewhere else! Good riddance to that place. | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 1704 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 4.229.132.140 |
Detroit......the big city!.....and some of you are bitching about a cover charge!? What difference does it make if they charge an extra dollar for a drink or a cover charge? If you don't want to pay for a band then go where there isn't one; but to bitch about a 3$ cover charge...........small town mentality | ||
Jimg Member Username: Jimg Post Number: 687 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
Hmmm...to cover, or not to cover...BoMac's didn't charge for quite some time, then started, it did change the clientele and it did shrink the audience at times, too. Baker's charges on the weekends but and they build enough 'fat' into their drink prices to help pay musicians during the week. Wonder if they will start charging on Weds for Scott's band? | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1065 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.248.9.131 |
I agree with cl, G-d forbid the band gets paid...go somewhere where there's canned music and stop complaining. | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 1706 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 4.229.132.140 |
As a musician tha has played many places in and around Detroit I do get annoyed with people griping about a cover charge. Musicians work hard.Hauling equipment in and out of clubs,rehearsing and practicing; they deserve to be paid_ sometime that requires a cover charge. Now I certainly understand that some of you don't like that but it is so small time to gripe about it.......3$ fucking dollars? Are you serious? | ||
The_rock Member Username: The_rock Post Number: 1356 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.42.251.225 |
I paid $25 a person to hear Bobbie Short at the Cafe Caryle in the Hotel Caryle in NYC back in the 70's. All part of the price of doing business. Some places even had a minimun once you paid the cover charge. Cover charges are routine, and Cliff Belle's is worth the $3 just to see all the nice woodwork. | ||
Gdub Member Username: Gdub Post Number: 1074 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 75.10.4.241 |
I was there on a Wednesday night recently, and they had a big band playing--no cover. There was a fairly good crowd, but I was still wondering how a band with so many musicians could be fairly paid for this gig without a cover charge. Drinks were fairly priced for a nice downtown bar. I'm not surprised to hear of a new cover charge, and $3 for live music is really not that bad. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 244 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.60.181.41 |
Only $3 to hear a live band? Cheap. $5 sounds fair to me. | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 1185 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.251.28 |
Metro Detroiters have always been notoriously cheap about paying cover charges. I mean, $3? That's nothing at all! You know, you get what you pay for. No or low cover usually means you're getting a cruddy band (or one that's just starting out). Towns with low and no covers are usually backwater burgs... expect to pay anywhere from $10 to $30 as a cover charge in big cities like NYC, Chicago, LA, etc. That's just part of the cost of going out unless you're doing a dive bar crawl. | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 5763 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.57.57.12 |
If there is a live band a cover is not a big deal to me. However, if there's a cover just because... | ||
Restoretheroar Member Username: Restoretheroar Post Number: 705 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 68.42.216.192 |
They should be charging $5. (Message edited by restoretheroar on August 13, 2006) | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 835 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.213.101 |
CityLover it's obvious you have an issue with people not liking cover charge. Small town mentality? I don't think so. I don't have a problem with paying the band at all...I surely don't expect them to NOT get paid or play for free! I just don't like carrying cash around with me, and find the hold up at the door EXTREMELY annoying. NOBODY WOULD CARE TO PAY $1 MORE per drink and the owner/band would shurely make more money that way!!!! FOR INSTANCE...I had 6 cocktails. Hmmmm...$6 or $3? DUH! | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 1707 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 4.229.132.140 |
Detroit aspires to be a big town.....Well Quinn in NYC and Chicago and probably San Fran and Tokyo and London cover is likely around 25$ and that is with a drink minimum and the drinks are higher priced........so..uh..yeah small (read hick) town mentality is evident here. | ||
Bob Member Username: Bob Post Number: 1070 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
Go to Chicago to the Jazz Showcase to see almost any group, and you'll have a $25 cover charge. $3 is nothing for great music. | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 1187 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.251.28 |
...small (read hick) town mentality is evident here... Amen. You want to live in a big, cosmopolitan city? Be prepared to pay a little for it. Quinn, wouldn't the bar put the cover charge on your credit card? Many places will do that if you ask. Regardless, it's smart to always have a little cash on hand, just in case. I'd much rather pay a cover than $1 or $2 more per drink, but that's just me. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 5015 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
so... i'm still failing to see why you'd rather pay $1 per drink than pay $3 at the door. odds are you're going to have more than 3 drinks, thus you end up ahead. gotta love people who bitch about shit, and their alternative solution benefits them even less. geez, it's 3 bucks. | ||
Oliverdouglas Member Username: Oliverdouglas Post Number: 37 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 69.209.185.163 |
I usually have three dollars. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 836 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.213.101 |
IT'S IRRITATING IS ALL I'M SAYING. Never said it wasn't worth the money. "Read hick"...whatever dickwad. Nice way to make it personal. CityLover it sounds like you've gotten screwed over before by a bar owner or whatever. Sorry if that's the case. Maybe I'm just being bitchy about it, but yes I'd rather have them hide a profit for themselves somewhere where I wouldn't notice. Just a preference. Also, just so you know, it's $3 on the weekend there regardless of live music. That's what the owner told me. "Oooh...a sense of exclusivity." AH...I got it...CityLover is the OWNER!?!?! Hahahah. Whatever...get over yourself. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2837 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 75.0.88.190 |
Wow, the same person that...was part of claiming that a female media personality was really a man, attacked a political candidate and his family, attacks forumers that don't agree with him/her, etc. is offended at someone "making it personal". | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 1711 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 4.229.132.176 |
I did not say you are a hick....I said small town (hick) mentality was evident. You appear to be a cheapwad.I used cheapwad instead of cheapskate to coincide with my newly anointed dickwad monicker..... You don't come off looking too slick when ya bitch about a three dollar cover Quinn.... | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 3971 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.209.148.191 |
I'd like to retract my comparison between Cliff's Bells and Centre Street. Didn't catch the part about live music in Quinn's original post. Paying a three dollar cover to hear live music seems reasonable. Covers at bars only bug me when you are paying to go inside a buy drinks and listen to the jukebox or in Centre Street's case, listen to a DJ play over-modulated techno in a low ceilinged basement bar without a dance floor. | ||
Hooha Member Username: Hooha Post Number: 121 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 24.145.153.182 |
Yes, you'll pay a lot more in New York or Chicago. But if you haven't noticed, Detroit is not New York and/or Chicago. If you charge cover at a Detroit bar, it doesn't become a trendy New York club, it becomes a Detroit bar... that charges cover. The small town mentality may come with the fact that downtown Detroit essentially is a small town. The nightlife is dead down there except for after Tiger's games and a fairly healthy Friday/Saturday night crowd. Charging cover to people who already have to haul their asses downtown and possibly pay to park (if they don't know better) just makes Detroit a less attractive option. Clubs in large cities charge cover because the people don't have much of a choice. Here, not the case. I've been to plenty of venues downtown and in the burbs that have free bands. If you charge cover, there's probably 50 options within 25 miles that don't. On a personal note, I hate when you go to certain bars and there's a shitty cover band playing. There's some places you go to (pubs, sports bars) to have a few drinks, talk to your friends, maybe watch some tv; but not to check out a band. Cliff Bell's strikes me as one of those places. One of my local bars had to stop having bands on weekends cuz it was driving away business. If Quinn is the prototypical Cliff Bell's customer and cover pisses him off... maybe they should not charge. | ||
Jimg Member Username: Jimg Post Number: 690 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 |
Fortunately Cliff Bell's doesn't have a TV. But it does have good jazz on Weds. eve, not a 'cover' band. And it has a great vibe. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1066 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.248.9.131 |
There are PLENTY of bars downtown where you can get hammered and talk to your friends without the pain and heartache of listening to live music. Good fking grief. The next Wednesday I can, I'm going to Cliff Bell's to fork over $3 just on principle. Support the few bars, especially in downtown Detroit, that have actual live music played on instruments by humans. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 837 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.213.101 |
You won't have to pay...you only pay on saturday and sunday I was told. Go figure. I've been to plenty of places in Chicago (New York a few times) where there is live music, and no cover. Let me stress...I'm not saying the band isn't worth $3. Quite the contrary...I bet they aren't paid what they're worth. I would pay alot of money to see a band that I wanted to. What I wanted to do was go and have a few drinks. I didn't know there was going to be a live band...never considered cliff bells to be a "jazz place." Here's a for instance...we went to Bakers Friday night for like the millionth time. Cover is $5. I know I'm going to pay that (I'm used to it) because it's a place to go listen to music...yes and eat wings. So it doesn't piss me off to pay cover...at all. I think my rant is really more about the second part of my post. "People like the exclusivity..." BULL SHIT. Again...barf barf barf. YOu all want to get pissed off...go to 150 W Jefferson and pay $5 cover to sit in a half empty bar and pay $10 for your drink. To be honest I'm probably still mad about that and I'm taking it out on cliff bells. Sorry...rant over. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1067 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.248.9.131 |
Again, there are TONS of downtown bars with NO LIVE MUSIC. Go. Enjoy. Leave the few that pay live bands in peace. | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 1714 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 4.229.132.199 |
So Quinn......now you really don't mind about the cover and you are still pissed about your experience at 150 W.Jefferson?......why didn't you just say that to begin with? Now we can be friends (again?). To the person that wondered about the big band at Cliff Bell's being paid with no cover.......they probably are not getting paid they do it cus they love playing.I played a long time at many places including the Soup Kitchen in Detroit for nominal pay because I loved playing. | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 907 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
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Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 974 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.40.89.238 |
What time does Cliff Bells open on Saturday?? | ||
Jimg Member Username: Jimg Post Number: 691 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 12.47.224.7 |
You're right, CL, the band don't make shit...anyone who wants to support Scott Gwinnell's orchestra should buy their CD. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2095 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.138.127 |
Quinn, Stop being a cheap $3 is nothing. It is not the owner of the CB to entertain you. That isn't why he opened up his business. There are a lot of people that don't drink but want to go out and listen to live bands. That $1.50 coke they buy is going to keep the place open or pay the band. Covers are necessary to pay the bands and also charge something to the folks that don't drink. It is not a new concept that people pay for entertainment. When a bar starts charging cover just to get into the place and there is no live entertainment, bitch then. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 838 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Gander...what? You don't make sense. "It is not the owner of the CB to entertain you. That isn't why he opened up his business." No...he opened to make money. Um...I'm confused about what you are saying here... I did refer to my previous bitch/rant about 150 W. Jefferson. No I'm still pissed about the $3. I would have been pissed at $.50. I would have been pissed at $10. IT WAS ANNOYING THAT'S ALL. Geesh. In the end...I'm still going to go to Cliff Bells, and now that I know there's cover...I'll expect it. The place is great and I like the bartenders. p.s. I still think a drag act could to well there...hey do you think they would charge cover? ;) Ahem. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2097 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.138.127 |
I should have said entertain you for free. | ||
Caseyc Member Username: Caseyc Post Number: 599 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 206.18.111.5 |
Frankly, to echo Hooha's point above, there are many times I would pay $5 to NOT have a bandplay. Thoughtful non-live music programming (or an excellent jukebox) can often be much more enjoyable than a run of the mill mediocre hack band with an audience base consisting of immediate frends and girlfriends. I am not saying that is the case with Cliff Bell's...more of a generic point based on years of bad experiences. If I want to see a live band, there are bars/venues for that. On a different yet slightly related point, based on my recent experiences, two of the best bars in Cincinnati for live music (of the indie bent) never charge cover (the Northside Tavern and the Comet)....and this is not just for local bands, but out of towners as well (except for the few "special" shows, such as, e.g. a Blanche/Greenhornes release party). From what I can tell, this seems to work out pretty well...then again this is a small town (1/3rd the size of detroit). | ||
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_ Post Number: 1466 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.230.150 |
Not saying anything was handle improperly. But many bars use the cover charge to avoid taxes. Raising the price of liquor shows up in your tax reports and your insurance rates at the end of the year. Many see the Cover Charge as free and clear money. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10472 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228 |
I recently walked away from Cliff Bells because they were charging cover. I look at it this way, if I was meeting friends there and would remain for several drinks, I have no problem paying a $3. In fact, $3 is cheap as hell for a cover charge for a band. The case the night I walked away was I was making a pitstop there for 1 and then meeting friends over at The Well after the fireworks had finished. So, the $3 cover for one $5 drink was not worth it to me. Their music is amazing at Cliff Bells, if you have a problem paying $3 then your are a serious cheap ass, that's all I gotta say. The drinks at Cliff Bells are already higher priced that most any other bar in town, though on par with bars in most other cities. To raise the drinks a $1 as opposed to a $3 cover would likely be reason for more people not to go. For the longest time 5th Ave downtown didn't charge a cover. Then after about 9 months or so they began charging either $5 or $7. I then quit going. Not because I didn't like the place, or didn't like the bands, it was simply I wasn't planning on staying there all night and it wasn't worth it to me as a bar hopper to go to places that charge cover. So I'm sure that Cliff Bells will niether lose sleep over losing your business, nor experience much of a drop in business because of $3. The people that have frequented the place know that the Jazz there is well worth $3, and a steal at that price! | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 881 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.242.215.8 |
I prefer Cliff Bells sans band. Although the bands that have performed there seemed pretty good, it is just too loud. Can't talk to anyone comfortably while the band is playing until it takes a break. I know a fair percentage of people go there for the music, but some of us just want to drink, socialize and enjoy the atmosphere. As far as the cover goes, $3 is nothing for Cliff Bells. I would, and have, paid that in a heart beat. I don't mind paying a little extra for quality. But what pisses me off is when The Well starts charging cover. Not only is there no way I'm going to pay money for the privelege of drinking in that place, but it makes me want to go someplace else on the nights there not charging cover. (Message edited by E_hemingway on August 14, 2006) | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10473 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228 |
E_hemingway, Wouldn't you agree though that downtown is seriously lacking in the area of live bands though? You basically have 5th Ave, Cliff Bells, Townpump, The Well (on occasion) and sometimes Hockeytown. Aside from that, I can't think of anywhere else to see live music at a bar. Does Hard Rock even have bands anymore? The Well only charges when they have a band, when they do, it's often loud as hell so you either love it or hate it. Personally, I love it. ps...good to see you and your lady at Summerfest. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7716 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
Live Music also at: Seldom Blues Detroiter (occasionally) Rhino Cheli's Bookies Bert's (Eastern Market) Key Club They Say Old Shelleleigh Currents A fair amount in outlying areas like Corktown, Midotwn, etc. Start adding in Hamtramck and there are more than enough places to see live music. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2098 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.138.127 |
The Belmont in Hamtown has the best live music. | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 882 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.242.215.8 |
Sport: Naw, downtown isn't lacking venues. Finding a place with music is almost a sure thing on the weekend, plus you have all the places in Corktown, Midtown, Hamtramck. The talent level of some of the bands is pretty impressive. For example, I wandered into Lager House Saturday night not sure what band would be playing, but knowing the odds were pretty good a quality band would be there. Low and behold, I discovered Man Incorporated. Great show. Summerfest was pretty cool. Nice little neighborhood party. Lots of good music. Not to mention we love walking through that neighborhood. | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1236 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 198.208.159.18 |
given how much i drink, a $3 cover charge is far more reasonable than an extra buck a drink! | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1237 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 198.208.159.18 |
e_hemingway, did you stick around for the main attraction? "easy action" soo good. after the show some friends and I ambled up trumbull to a summerfest afterpary | ||
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa Post Number: 1066 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78 |
As far as I know, They Say has never charged a cover to see any of the bands that play there 5 nights a week. Of course, I never go for the bands anyway. | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 884 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.242.215.8 |
Yeah, they were pretty good. The bass player reminded me of a Guns N Roses clone. I'd pay to see them again. Started out in Woodbridge and ended the night around 4 a.m. at Finite. Was the afterparty you went to at Commonwealth and Willis? | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7717 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
Susan - I have never payed cover for They Say but I have not been there too many times. | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1238 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 198.208.159.18 |
e-hemingway, that was the party! | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 885 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.242.215.8 |
Yeah, shortround gave us the heads up on that. We were planning on heading over to it after Lager House, but got sidetracked and ended up at Finite. Hope it went well. | ||
Michael Member Username: Michael Post Number: 766 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.74.6.49 |
Ahhh yes, the summerfest after party. Good stuff. Thank god those old guys showed up with the kegs(and knew how to hook them up). | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1239 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 69.136.142.0 |
not as well as I had hoped lol ;) | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10475 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Agreed! I bet I hadn't carried a keg into a party in probably 7 years, almost brought a tear to my eye. | ||
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa Post Number: 1068 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78 |
Creepy... http://info.detnews.com/entblo g/index.cfm
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Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 849 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Ha... I agree wholeheartedly with this article. Come to think of it...when we went in to Cliff Bells the band wasn't playing, and the guy taking the cover didn't say "It goes to the band" or anything regarding the band. Just "We now charge cover...sorry." It wasn't until I talked to the bar owner that I learned it was to "help pay" for the band. I think if thy doorman said it went to the band (that is on break right now but is going to continue playing) I wouldn't have had a problem. Certainly wouldn't have been as upset as I was. Make sense now? | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10479 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228 |
So, they had a band, you paid $3, so what are you upset about? Do us all a favor, don't try and order pickup at Slows. I don't know if I can stand yet another one of these threads. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2100 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.138.127 |
Quinn just stay home and then you won't have anything to bitch about. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10480 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228 |
I believe she/he once said "home" was Woodbridge, so I suppose if Quinn stayed home ALL the time, eventually I'd probably bump into Quinn and listen to the bitching and not have a scroll option....that would suck. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 850 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Supersport/Merchantgander/Metr odetguy...get over yourselves...FREMAN HENDRIX LOST AND IS A TOTAL F'ING LOSER. Stop taking it out on me...I was only the messenger. It was his race to loose...and loose he did. Mightily. If you don't like this thread ignor it buttholes. To all other posters on this thread...sorry that these jackasses follow me around...I don't know what to do. It's like lice...or a rat infestation. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2860 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.78.208 |
Here we go again...Mr/Ms Credibility him/herself Could you please stop attacking local businesses in order to promote your agenda. Let me guess, you are involved with rival businesses and you're using this forum to attempt to do harm to your competitors, much like you used this forum to launch political attacks during the mayoral campaign. Funny how you keep getting caught lying. You've claimed that you live in both Woodbridge as well as Indian Village (as well as originally claiming that you were from the suburbs). | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2102 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.138.127 |
What does Freman Hendrix losing have anything to do with people being tired of you whining like a little bitch every time you go out? Again if you are so cheap buy a bottle of cold duck and drink at home but please stop crying on the internet. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 5020 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
I too am confused with ILD/Quinn/Ltorivia/etc. continually bringing up Freman Hendrix when they're backed into a corner in an argument. Is that the last club in the bag or something? | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 853 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Ah I knew that would draw you out. -----------SCENE-------------- Dinky apartment in Woodbrige. Supersport to metro via phone: "Hey loser, get on detroit yes...quinn is talking about you." Metro to supersport via phone: "Cool...let me 3-way in merchantgander." Metro on 3-way with Super and Merchant: "Hey merchant, quinn is throwing shit out about our man...lets post!" Merchant: "Hey let me zip up and switch over from girlsgonewild.com. Where's Danny? SOMEONE CALL DANNY QUICK! " -------END SCENE-------------- Good one you guys...keep it coming. It's entertaining...for me at least. | ||
Gogo Member Username: Gogo Post Number: 1373 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24 |
http://www.cliffbells.com/inde x.html If you click on photos it has some old photos mixed with the new ones. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2863 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.78.208 |
No Aram, the Hendrix references are the second to last club in "Ilovedetroit"/Quinn's bags. The last club is some kind of unwanted (homo)sexual reference. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 856 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
The old pics are really great...thanks gogo. On another note...I completely forgot about that font on the "C"liff Bells logo. This is also behing the current band stage in a mosaic I think. A few weeks ago, we were debating the C in the Cliff...really looks like a P to me. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10484 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Freeman Hendrix is working the system, making more money than Kwame, and able to pay a $3 cover at Cliff Bells without going online and bitching about it. THAT is why Quinn is upset. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2639 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.81.159 |
I totally disagree with Quinn and ILD about Hendrix (I thought he would make a great mayor). And I too took offense to many of their comments.... But I think what Quinn is referring to is MDG's constantly prodding and digging up the old stuff over and over and over again, even though election time was nearly a year in the past. There's a saying in German... "der Gescheidere gibt nach"... the smarter one will just let it go.... | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 860 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.40.105.21 |
So what about the "P" everyone? C or P? and, if P, should they alter the logo?  | ||
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria Post Number: 1133 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
Quinn, I think a 'P' in the same style would loop at the start of the letter similar to the 'B' in Bells. Picture the 'B' without the middle and lower loops. It's a funny 'C', though - I agree with that.  | ||
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal Post Number: 890 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 68.60.139.244 |
Looks like a Sperm to me. | ||
Toolbox Member Username: Toolbox Post Number: 964 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.126.173 |
Looks like a C to me. | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 890 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.242.215.8 |
Man, I hope they rebuild that bar in the basement someday. | ||
Michael Member Username: Michael Post Number: 768 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.74.6.49 |
It was the man's signature for cripes sake. Take a sampling of signatures and see how many first letters of names actually look like the letter penned. As for the bar in the basement, I do not see it happening anytime soon. Where do you think the mosaic behind the new bandstand came from? | ||
Jimg Member Username: Jimg Post Number: 693 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 12.47.224.8 |
I'm going to brave the cover charge tonight and hear some great jazz. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 861 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.213.101 |
That's not a signature...unless he's a caligrapher. It's typeset. What bar in the basement? Do tell... | ||
Michael Member Username: Michael Post Number: 769 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.74.6.49 |
I don't know, lots of elders I know have very clean signatures, not like the chicken scratch most people pass off as signatures today. Maybe the person who did the mosaic, linked to above, cleaned up his signature a bit to make it look better. As for the bar in the basement, the above mosaic came from it. Before it was a poker room, it was the original Cliff Bell's speakeasy. | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2088 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105 |
Looks like a reversed bass clef to me. | ||
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister Post Number: 784 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.215.244.18 |
Quinn, You're busted. The sentiment with which you started this thread was not about hating to carry cash. You said, "I just don't like carrying cash around with me" But you seem to lament at the possibility that CB could become attractive to hipsters and subsequently lose its charm? I'm a reasonable person and I know it can't be about the $3. Just admit it Quinn, you have a profound fear of suburban hipsters taking over Cliff Bell's. later - naturalsister | ||
Caseyc Member Username: Caseyc Post Number: 610 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 206.18.111.5 |
Hey everyone, the DDays crew from Real Detroit is taking over Cliff Bell's for a super-swell par-TEE. All your friends from the Hayloft Liquor Stand, Bosco and assorted other bars in the Clem and SoRo will be hand to swill the latest red bull concoctions and dance the night away. Enjoy! | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 863 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
haha BUSTED! Good one...yes I have a fear of the suburban hipsters. Really the thread was started because of a melange of feelings...and one of them was this "exclusivity via cover charge" mentality. Another reason is I'm a bitch and like to bitch. I didn't know you were such a hottie gogo...why don't you just let merchantgander get in your pants just one time, then maybe he'll leave you alone. Or maybe not. | ||
Jimg Member Username: Jimg Post Number: 695 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
One can only hope some of the folks posting on this thread will go to the club and support the musicians...any Forum members show up tonight, I buy them a beer. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10486 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228 |
JimmyG...aka "High Roller" | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 3989 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59 |
Hey where did half this thread go? I thought I made some important points about preserving the cement silohs on Merchantgander's head in the event of loft development? Who is trying to silence my cause? SAVE THE MERCHANTGANDER CEMENT SILOHS! | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 869 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Civility sucks, jelk. Like, SO not fun. | ||
Jimg Member Username: Jimg Post Number: 696 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
LOL...wasn't even a cover last night. Band sounded GREAT. | ||
Monahan568 Member Username: Monahan568 Post Number: 137 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 64.32.219.138 |
hmmm i must have missed the cover guy last weekend or something, i didn't even get asked? but i would pay it for sure... | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 872 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
I told you! Cover saturday and sunday regardless...I said you wouldn't pay cover wednesday!!! | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 3993 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59 |
You tell me Quinny, bad-mouthing a newly opened Detroit business for engaging in industry standard behavior. Seems a little uncivil to me. BTW, have you and your friend ILD ever confirmed that Mildred Gaddis was in fact a man? If she wasn't that seems a little uncivil as well. SAVE THE MERCHANTGANDER CEMENT SILOHS! | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 873 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Christ get over yourself, pinhead. Yes I have evidence Mildred Gaddis is a man...she shtooped me last night...but she was moaning your name the whole time... | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 3995 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59 |
Well that's some bloody fucking civility right there if I ever heard it. Thank you for showing me the way...cunt. | ||
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa Post Number: 1081 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78 |
But I thought Quinn was a dude? ...I'm so confused. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 874 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
!! Jelk needs to take a chill pill...get over your self you self-righteous dork-wad. I'm a man...who slept (got shtooped) by a man (Mildred Gaddis). However, Mildred Gaddis missed shtooping Jelk, and moaned his name the whole time. AHEM...Jelk and Mildred Gaddis are having an affair...and both are men. We're talking mega gay action here. Gay gay gay gay gay. I've got proof. Seriously. It's true. You like, SO, have to believe me. Ahem. Where's itsjeff? | ||
Eric_c Member Username: Eric_c Post Number: 827 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.21.62.206 |
I thought Jelk was a woman. ;) | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 3997 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59 |
Whatever I am, it is infinitely superior to Quinn. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 881 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
You mean, "Whatever I am, I'm infinitely superior to quinn." You could replace the contraction with the full I am...you're choice. | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4002 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59 |
Well at least you concede the main point, I'm better than you. Check and mate. | ||
Monahan568 Member Username: Monahan568 Post Number: 138 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 64.32.219.138 |
zzzzz.... ^ | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 883 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Wow...thanks for making my point, Jelk. |
