Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 2842 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.211.213
| Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 9:18 pm: | |
^^ Looking west from the Omni Hotel. ^^ Looking east from the Omni Hotel. ^^ Looking east at a completed section in front of GM / UAW building. This is going to be soooo cool once it all links together. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 196 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.138
| Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 9:21 pm: | |
Beautiful! |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 590 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.227.219.108
| Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 10:00 pm: | |
Lowell, Thanks for the great shots. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 101 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 63.85.13.248
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 8:17 am: | |
Now all that is needed appears to be the plaza area (bith bike rental, food concession, bathroom, and merry-go-round) to complete this walkway From Joe Louis Arena to up to Harbourtown. Hmm come to think of it the Port Authority needs to build its piece too. |
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine
Post Number: 1233 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 198.208.159.18
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 8:36 am: | |
the unfinished part between the rencen and hart plaza really pisses me off, ESPECIALLY, the finished part of it that's still surrounded by chain link fence....what's the deal? |
Miketoronto Member Username: Miketoronto
Post Number: 252 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 65.92.146.88
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 9:25 am: | |
The Riverwalk is amazing. I wish Detroit would come to Toronto and show our leaders how to do a waterfront. Now Detroit and Windsor both have amazing waterfront pathways. |
Bobj Member Username: Bobj
Post Number: 978 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.221.183.220
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 9:27 am: | |
Once the Riverwalk really gets going with retail, refreshments, vendors, etc it will be a destination! |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 104 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 63.85.13.248
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 9:48 am: | |
Gravity: That is the Port Authority Building site. Mike, check it out Tornoto is trying to make some improvements. http://www.cyburbia.org/forums /showthread.php?t=25965 |
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313
Post Number: 172 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 72.229.136.103
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 12:22 pm: | |
Looks really great. Can't wait til it is connect to the Belle. 313 |
Johnnny5 Member Username: Johnnny5
Post Number: 329 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 71.227.95.4
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 12:42 pm: | |
Are the guard rails in the first 2 pictures temporary? I sure hope so.... Other than that they look great! Some large shade trees, benches and some people and the Riverwalk will look fantastic. |
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors
Post Number: 57 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 1:55 pm: | |
Is it all connected from Omni down to the Joe yet. Is it all accessable? |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2069 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.233
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 2:30 pm: | |
quote:Is it all connected from Omni down to the Joe yet. Is it all accessable?
No it's not connected. There are gaps at bates and where the silos used to be. There will continue to be gaps as they build the new housing that was recently announced. |
Dougw Member Username: Dougw
Post Number: 1279 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 136.1.1.101
| Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 2:30 pm: | |
No, it's not all connected yet... there's a stretch that's not done yet between the plaza (under contruction) and the state park/lighthouse. (Also I'm guessing it's not all done yet between the state park & the Omni, and the aforementioned piece between the RenCen & Hart Plaza is not done yet either.) It does stretch farther east from the RenCen than it did earlier this year, though. I took some pics on Saturday which I'll try to post tonight. |
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000
Post Number: 120 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.14.20.35
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 3:42 pm: | |
Are the Omni & GM/UAW segments open to the public? I didn't think they were the last time I was down there, which was about a month ago. |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1071 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 3:46 pm: | |
Nope, it's all fenced in and with signs that state it's a hard hat area. |
Redetroit Member Username: Redetroit
Post Number: 33 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 3:50 pm: | |
Does the portion in front of the Uniroyal site have to wait for Bettis' phantom development? Please tell me NO... |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2083 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.33.191
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 6:30 pm: | |
From may July Last weekend:
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Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 103 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 6:40 pm: | |
Am I the only one who would have liked to have seen them keep one of the silos up as a sort of obsevation post? I thought it would have added character to the walkway and payed homage to the riverfront's past. They even could have put a beacon on top. |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2084 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.33.191
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 6:54 pm: | |
Sorry, I'd much prefer the residential buildings that are going to replace the silos. |
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 149 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 68.61.11.146
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 8:13 pm: | |
What is that construction on? |
Llyn
Member Username: Llyn
Post Number: 1618 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 9:43 pm: | |
"Am I the only one who would have liked to have seen them keep one of the silos up as a sort of obsevation post?" Yes. Lowell / Ndavies - thanks for the pics. |
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73
Post Number: 108 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.42.80.245
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:24 pm: | |
Ndavies, or those last shots of the Rivard plaza? |
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000
Post Number: 121 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.14.20.35
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 11:02 pm: | |
quote:Nope, it's all fenced in and with signs that state it's a hard hat area.
And bicycle helmets probably aren't hard enough. ;) Thanks for the info and the photos. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 109 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 11:30 pm: | |
The construction is for the following: a carosaul (sp) and a building that will house a bike rental, food concession, and bathroom. |
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger
Post Number: 35 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 68.42.78.175
| Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 11:40 pm: | |
I noticed in a couple of Lowell’s shots that the city has installed emergency call boxes along the Riverwalk. In this age of near universal cell phone ownership I wonder if they were really necessary or cost effective. I suppose psychologically they make people feel saver, but will the response be any different than a normal 911 call? |
Fishtoes2000 Member Username: Fishtoes2000
Post Number: 122 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.14.20.35
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 1:07 am: | |
quote:I noticed in a couple of Lowell’s shots that the city has installed emergency call boxes along the Riverwalk. In this age of near universal cell phone ownership I wonder if they were really necessary or cost effective. I suppose psychologically they make people feel saver, but will the response be any different than a normal 911 call?
That's an interesting question. However most runners I know don't carry a cell phone, so for us there is an advantage. I've also noticed many apparently non-U.S. visitors along the Riverwalk and I'm not sure their mobile phones would work here. That said, I'm not sure whether these considerations justify the cost or not. |
Royce Member Username: Royce
Post Number: 1752 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.209.179.156
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 1:12 am: | |
How many people jogging or riding their bikes are going to have their cell phones on them? The emergency call boxes are a good idea. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4149 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 1:17 am: | |
Being that the Riverwalk is an "extra" for the city, and that a significant portion of it is being developed with private monies/donations, I'm certainly not going to complain about the emergency call boxes, or the other carousel, or much of any of the components unless they seem overly extravagent, or wonder if they justify the cost. And, if I was to, justify the cost to whom? |
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger
Post Number: 36 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 68.42.78.175
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 9:13 am: | |
quote:I'm certainly not going to complain about the emergency call boxes,
I’m not complaining about them, necessarily. I’m simply pointing out that the creation of the 911 emergency response system and the proliferation of cell phones have probably made them as obsolete as the fire alarm boxes that at one time could be found throughout the city.
quote:a significant portion of it is being developed with private monies/donations,
Just because it’s someone else’s money doesn’t mean it should be squandered. |
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine
Post Number: 1243 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 198.208.159.18
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 9:22 am: | |
not everyone chooses or can afford a cell phone, cell phone ownership is far from universal, why NOT put up emergency call boxes? I'd rather they skimp on something like the carousel than the safety of people using the walk |
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander
Post Number: 2105 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 9:23 am: | |
Ramcharger most college campuses still have them and large public parks have them. The reason they are important is because a cell phone doesn't scare anyone away. The siren and noise that the emergency call boxes make might scare someone away. Most criminals don't like to draw attention to themselves. |
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger
Post Number: 37 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 68.42.78.175
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:21 am: | |
When a call box system is used on a college campus or in a shopping mall parking lot, for example, they usually connect to some private security organization such as the campus police or mall security. The caller can expect a quicker response than a general 911 call. If this is the case with the Riverwalk system then I’m all for them. However, if they simply connect to the 911 system they are superfluous. |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1072 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:54 am: | |
Those *might* connect to the Omni/River Place security... |
Rust Member Username: Rust
Post Number: 138 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 64.118.136.130
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 1:00 pm: | |
Wade trim has some nice rendering on their website that I haven't seen before. If their site has been posted already my apologies to the "Forum Police". http://multimedia.wadetrim.com /projects/ZZZ2538/renderings-0 1.htm |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 7745 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 1:07 pm: | |
quote:If their site has been posted already my apologies to the "Forum Police".
Or "If their site has been posted already my apologies to NDavies/ |
Rust Member Username: Rust
Post Number: 139 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 64.118.136.130
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 1:21 pm: | |
Buy why is he so angry? |
Messykitty Member Username: Messykitty
Post Number: 63 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.21.198.33
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 2:50 pm: | |
You'd be angry, too, if you had a bunch of people wasting your time on DetroitYes! Wait a minute, I think I'm going to go punch a hole in the wall right now. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4158 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18
| Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 5:24 pm: | |
Ram, what's it to you, personally, if someone wants to squander their money? Really, I'm just asking. BTW, what about all of those times when cell phone service is lost altogether, or your phone is dead, or you're not carrying your phone with you for whatever reason (i.e. jogging, forgetful...)? Even still, I don't see why one needs to be concerned about phoneboxes. |
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger
Post Number: 38 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 68.42.78.175
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:19 am: | |
Lmich, what’s it to you, personally, what I’m concerned about? I made an observation and commented on it like anybody else on this forum. But with you it’s always a personal attack, what’s up with that? As for “someone” squandering their money, we’re not talking about someone. We’re talking about the city of Detroit, the state of Michigan and the Detroit Riverfront Conservancy, a quasi-public entity created to facilitate the development of a riverfront promenade, a project the city has been trying to realize since the early days of the Young administration (if not earlier). They are using public funds to accomplish this, funds that have been collected from a variety of sources, including grants and donations, but which are now public funds none the less. Therefore, it is only reasonable to expect the people administering this money to spend it responsibly. I suppose that they have studied the security issue and have determined that people’s perception of safety is more important than its reality. To that end, I guess the call boxes serve a function, but I’m not sure. There is one thing I am sure of however, Lmichigan, and that is that I don’t have to explain myself to you! |
Eric Member Username: Eric
Post Number: 522 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.246.29.185
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:54 am: | |
These are absolutely are necessary, the east riverfront right now is pretty desolate and the Riverwalk isn't visible from the street. If something were to happen, you didn't have a cell or it were stolen a phone wouldn't be nearby. What's your recourse if you get mugged halfway between the RenCen and the Omni? |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4166 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:25 am: | |
You don't have to explain yourself to me, so don't it. I was asking a genuine question, and I'm sorry you took it so personally. (Message edited by lmichigan on August 17, 2006) |