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Lowell
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^^ Looking west from the Omni Hotel.
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^^ Looking east from the Omni Hotel.
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^^ Looking east at a completed section in front of GM / UAW building.

This is going to be soooo cool once it all links together.
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Thejesus
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Beautiful!
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Irish_mafia
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Lowell,

Thanks for the great shots.
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Detroitplanner
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Now all that is needed appears to be the plaza area (bith bike rental, food concession, bathroom, and merry-go-round) to complete this walkway From Joe Louis Arena to up to Harbourtown.

Hmm come to think of it the Port Authority needs to build its piece too.
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Gravitymachine
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the unfinished part between the rencen and hart plaza really pisses me off, ESPECIALLY, the finished part of it that's still surrounded by chain link fence....what's the deal?
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Miketoronto
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The Riverwalk is amazing. I wish Detroit would come to Toronto and show our leaders how to do a waterfront.

Now Detroit and Windsor both have amazing waterfront pathways.
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Bobj
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Once the Riverwalk really gets going with retail, refreshments, vendors, etc it will be a destination!
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Detroitplanner
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Gravity: That is the Port Authority Building site.

Mike, check it out Tornoto is trying to make some improvements.
http://www.cyburbia.org/forums /showthread.php?t=25965
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Detroit313
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Looks really great. Can't wait til it is connect to the Belle. 313
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Johnnny5
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Are the guard rails in the first 2 pictures temporary? I sure hope so.... Other than that they look great! Some large shade trees, benches and some people and the Riverwalk will look fantastic.
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Urbanoutdoors
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Is it all connected from Omni down to the Joe yet. Is it all accessable?
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Ndavies
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quote:

Is it all connected from Omni down to the Joe yet. Is it all accessable?




No it's not connected. There are gaps at bates and where the silos used to be. There will continue to be gaps as they build the new housing that was recently announced.
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Dougw
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No, it's not all connected yet... there's a stretch that's not done yet between the plaza (under contruction) and the state park/lighthouse. (Also I'm guessing it's not all done yet between the state park & the Omni, and the aforementioned piece between the RenCen & Hart Plaza is not done yet either.)

It does stretch farther east from the RenCen than it did earlier this year, though. I took some pics on Saturday which I'll try to post tonight.
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Fishtoes2000
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Are the Omni & GM/UAW segments open to the public? I didn't think they were the last time I was down there, which was about a month ago.
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Susanarosa
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Nope, it's all fenced in and with signs that state it's a hard hat area.
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Redetroit
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Does the portion in front of the Uniroyal site have to wait for Bettis' phantom development? Please tell me NO...
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Ndavies
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From may
RW1

July
RW2

Last weekend:
RW3

rw4
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Detroitej72
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Am I the only one who would have liked to have seen them keep one of the silos up as a sort of obsevation post?

I thought it would have added character to the walkway and payed homage to the riverfront's past. They even could have put a beacon on top.
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Ndavies
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Sorry, I'd much prefer the residential buildings that are going to replace the silos.
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Rbdetsport
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What is that construction on?
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Llyn
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"Am I the only one who would have liked to have seen them keep one of the silos up as a sort of obsevation post?"

Yes.

Lowell / Ndavies - thanks for the pics.
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Andyguard73
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Ndavies, or those last shots of the Rivard plaza?
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Fishtoes2000
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quote:

Nope, it's all fenced in and with signs that state it's a hard hat area.



And bicycle helmets probably aren't hard enough. ;)

Thanks for the info and the photos.
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Detroitplanner
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The construction is for the following: a carosaul (sp) and a building that will house a bike rental, food concession, and bathroom.
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Ramcharger
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I noticed in a couple of Lowell’s shots that the city has installed emergency call boxes along the Riverwalk. In this age of near universal cell phone ownership I wonder if they were really necessary or cost effective. I suppose psychologically they make people feel saver, but will the response be any different than a normal 911 call?
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Fishtoes2000
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I noticed in a couple of Lowell’s shots that the city has installed emergency call boxes along the Riverwalk. In this age of near universal cell phone ownership I wonder if they were really necessary or cost effective. I suppose psychologically they make people feel saver, but will the response be any different than a normal 911 call?



That's an interesting question. However most runners I know don't carry a cell phone, so for us there is an advantage. I've also noticed many apparently non-U.S. visitors along the Riverwalk and I'm not sure their mobile phones would work here. That said, I'm not sure whether these considerations justify the cost or not.
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Royce
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How many people jogging or riding their bikes are going to have their cell phones on them? The emergency call boxes are a good idea.
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Lmichigan
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Being that the Riverwalk is an "extra" for the city, and that a significant portion of it is being developed with private monies/donations, I'm certainly not going to complain about the emergency call boxes, or the other carousel, or much of any of the components unless they seem overly extravagent, or wonder if they justify the cost. And, if I was to, justify the cost to whom?
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Ramcharger
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quote:

I'm certainly not going to complain about the emergency call boxes,



I’m not complaining about them, necessarily. I’m simply pointing out that the creation of the 911 emergency response system and the proliferation of cell phones have probably made them as obsolete as the fire alarm boxes that at one time could be found throughout the city.

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a significant portion of it is being developed with private monies/donations,



Just because it’s someone else’s money doesn’t mean it should be squandered.
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Gravitymachine
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not everyone chooses or can afford a cell phone, cell phone ownership is far from universal, why NOT put up emergency call boxes? I'd rather they skimp on something like the carousel than the safety of people using the walk
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Merchantgander
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Ramcharger most college campuses still have them and large public parks have them. The reason they are important is because a cell phone doesn't scare anyone away. The siren and noise that the emergency call boxes make might scare someone away. Most criminals don't like to draw attention to themselves.
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Ramcharger
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When a call box system is used on a college campus or in a shopping mall parking lot, for example, they usually connect to some private security organization such as the campus police or mall security. The caller can expect a quicker response than a general 911 call. If this is the case with the Riverwalk system then I’m all for them. However, if they simply connect to the 911 system they are superfluous.
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Susanarosa
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Those *might* connect to the Omni/River Place security...
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Rust
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Wade trim has some nice rendering on their website that I haven't seen before. If their site has been posted already my apologies to the "Forum Police".

http://multimedia.wadetrim.com /projects/ZZZ2538/renderings-0 1.htm
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Jt1
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If their site has been posted already my apologies to the "Forum Police".




Or "If their site has been posted already my apologies to NDavies/
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Rust
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Buy why is he so angry?
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Messykitty
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You'd be angry, too, if you had a bunch of people wasting your time on DetroitYes! Wait a minute, I think I'm going to go punch a hole in the wall right now.
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Lmichigan
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Ram, what's it to you, personally, if someone wants to squander their money? Really, I'm just asking.

BTW, what about all of those times when cell phone service is lost altogether, or your phone is dead, or you're not carrying your phone with you for whatever reason (i.e. jogging, forgetful...)? Even still, I don't see why one needs to be concerned about phoneboxes.
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Ramcharger
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Lmich, what’s it to you, personally, what I’m concerned about? I made an observation and commented on it like anybody else on this forum. But with you it’s always a personal attack, what’s up with that?
As for “someone” squandering their money, we’re not talking about someone. We’re talking about the city of Detroit, the state of Michigan and the Detroit Riverfront Conservancy, a quasi-public entity created to facilitate the development of a riverfront promenade, a project the city has been trying to realize since the early days of the Young administration (if not earlier). They are using public funds to accomplish this, funds that have been collected from a variety of sources, including grants and donations, but which are now public funds none the less. Therefore, it is only reasonable to expect the people administering this money to spend it responsibly. I suppose that they have studied the security issue and have determined that people’s perception of safety is more important than its reality. To that end, I guess the call boxes serve a function, but I’m not sure. There is one thing I am sure of however, Lmichigan, and that is that I don’t have to explain myself to you!
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Eric
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These are absolutely are necessary, the east riverfront right now is pretty desolate and the Riverwalk isn't visible from the street. If something were to happen, you didn't have a cell or it were stolen a phone wouldn't be nearby. What's your recourse if you get mugged halfway between the RenCen and the Omni?
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Lmichigan
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You don't have to explain yourself to me, so don't it. I was asking a genuine question, and I'm sorry you took it so personally.

(Message edited by lmichigan on August 17, 2006)

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