Eastsidechris Member Username: Eastsidechris
Post Number: 93 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 207.69.137.202
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 9:11 am: | |
As always, the little guy takes the biggest hits. Highlights from this article: An $8 bleacher ticket will--allegedly--cost $40 for the first round, $80 for the ALCS and $175 for the World series. For the most expensive regular season seats ($58), their playoff equivalents will be $110/150/250. For you math majors out there, a bleacher seat will cost 5x, 10x and 22x as much as during the regular season, and the expensive seats 2x,2.5x and 4x. Thanks Illitch. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 258 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 24.169.224.43
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 9:22 am: | |
Hey man, cut the guy some slack. He had to endure all those years when no one wanted to go down to the games. Now that all the bandwagon fan are back onboard (myself admitedly being one), well, you gotta strike while the iron is hot. It's all supply and demand...if people were paying top dollar for a ticket back when the team sucked, it wouldn't be necessary to raise prices when the team is doing good. But that's not how supply and demand works. You never know...this could very well be their only winning season for ANOTHER 20 years...gotta take advantage... |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 8728 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.54.69.58
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 9:24 am: | |
"HE" had to endure? What about the fans? It was HIS team that HE owned, he was lucky to have the number of fans even attend those games. But I digress. When a team does well, you should expect ticket prices to rise, it has always been that way and always will. How else do you pay for quality players? |
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch
Post Number: 278 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.65.11.152
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 9:27 am: | |
quote:How else do you pay for quality players?
$8.00 beer? |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 8733 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.54.69.58
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 9:58 am: | |
Touche! |
Sfdet Member Username: Sfdet
Post Number: 80 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.146.85.182
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 10:06 am: | |
if you don't agree with the ticket prices, then don't pay them. stay home. watch the games on tv. you have the choice. it's called freedom. no one is forcing you to pay. no one is forcing you to go. |
Itsjeff
Member Username: Itsjeff
Post Number: 6670 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 10:09 am: | |
Sfdet, I'm afraid I don't get your point. What is it you're suggesting? |
Kenp Member Username: Kenp
Post Number: 33 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 216.93.121.82
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 10:30 am: | |
I know how to go to the playoffs and get paid. Due to the lack of vendors selling items in the stands, there is a push to hire some asap. You can throw peanuts and watch baseball. As far as the price of the playoffs go, its simply supply and demand, probably comparable to any team in baseball if they were in our posiotion. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 259 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 24.169.224.43
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 10:34 am: | |
Goat, you kinda proved my point... |
Toledolaw05 Member Username: Toledolaw05
Post Number: 41 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 72.240.58.198
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 11:13 am: | |
why complain - get in on the action - buy as many as you can at 40 and turn around sell them for 80 on ebay |
Udmphikapbob Member Username: Udmphikapbob
Post Number: 173 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 70.227.221.114
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 11:51 am: | |
where is this article? oh, it's in the other thread... (Message edited by udmphikapbob on August 22, 2006) |
Jiminnm Member Username: Jiminnm
Post Number: 1069 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.35.85.184
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 12:07 pm: | |
I went to the ALCS Tigers' home games in 1987, and I think the multiples were about the same then as are cited above (only one round then). If you check playoff ticket prices in other cities and for other sports, you'll find the same type of pricing. It's become the norm for pro sports. |
Aiw
Member Username: Aiw
Post Number: 5789 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.216.150.127
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 12:21 pm: | |
While everyone gets all excited, and mad at Ilitch, I'm pretty sure that post-season pricing is dictated by MLB, and the king of all asshats Bud Selig. |
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister
Post Number: 791 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.73.198.214
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 12:24 pm: | |
Premium tickets USUALLY means premium team. Get over it. GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! later - naturalsister |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2679 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.105.227
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 12:24 pm: | |
Why did Eastsidechris start 2 threads with the same title???? |
Sfdet Member Username: Sfdet
Post Number: 81 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 160.83.73.6
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:02 pm: | |
itsjeff - my point is that no one, even the little guy, is entitled to buy a tigers ticket for an undermarket price. attending a tigers game is not a right. this thread seems to be implying that that illitch is somehow a bad guy because he is setting prices for playoff tickets at prices that he thinks people will pay, and by doing so he is screwing the little guy. it's an absurd notion. the little guy won't be screwed if the little guy doesn't buy the tickets at the prices he can't afford. the little guy is free not to attend the game. if the little guy feels that the higher prices are worth it, then the little guy can make that decision for himself. if, in the little guy's sole judgment, decides to buy the ticket, he has made that determination using his own free will. he's not being screwed. to take it one step further, let's say illitch doesn't increase ticket prices for the playoffs and every little guy in the metro area can afford to buy a ticket. what happens then? there would have to be a lottery to allocate tickets because demand will exceed supply. the vast majority of little guys who lose the lottery are screwed. and most little guys who win the ticket lottery would end up selling their tickets to scalpers for a much higher market price. the little guy (and the scalper) makes a profit instead of illitch. the problem is that the little guy doesn't pay the players' salaries. the little guy didn't pay $80 million for the team. the tiger organization is a business, not a charity. |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 669 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.212.56.84
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:04 pm: | |
the Tigers have forgotten the little guy. Youcan barely stand against the fence anymore! Last year they were empty. |
Messykitty Member Username: Messykitty
Post Number: 77 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.21.198.33
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:05 pm: | |
Make sense now, Jeff? ; ) |
Udmphikapbob Member Username: Udmphikapbob
Post Number: 176 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 70.227.221.114
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:35 pm: | |
the point is, we expect SOME increase, yes. if my normal $20 seat costs me $400 though? really, that's okay? |
Eastsidechris Member Username: Eastsidechris
Post Number: 95 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 207.69.138.9
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:47 pm: | |
Sorry for the double post...I started to send the first before I had realized that I didn't include the link to the article. It didn't appear to post it at first, so I started it over again, but by that time the first post had gone through. Sorry for the confusion. As for the cost of the playoff tickets, I definitely expected a sizeable markup, but not as much as is expected. You'll notice in the article (again, the link is http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060822/S PORTS0104/608220410 ) that the White Sox tickets were (relatively speaking) considerably less last year, and they hadn't won a World Series in 80+ years. |
Udmphikapbob Member Username: Udmphikapbob
Post Number: 177 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 70.227.221.114
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 5:17 pm: | |
$2755 for two upper club seats. got my invoice in the mail today. so due to the fact that i and my wife are avid fans, and we went to spring training this year - before they got off to a hot start - and we planned a road trip to chicago - when tickets went on sale in march - we can not afford the reward of playoff tickets. thanks so much, mr. macedonian parking baron. i see that loyalty means nothing to you. i hope that many more season package holders do as i do next year, and don't renew. why would you? so we can get some neat-o food vouchers again? can't wait to see how much he tries to get for the regular season next year. |
Rjk Member Username: Rjk
Post Number: 446 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.41.145.5
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 6:38 pm: | |
"the point is, we expect SOME increase, yes. if my normal $20 seat costs me $400 though? really, that's okay?" It has nothing to do with being okay, it's just the way it is. I doubt it's any different in any other MLB ballpark. Aren't the Red Wings playoff tickets a large amount over the regular season tickets also? For Ilitch to compete with the Yankees and the Red Sox of the world he's going to have to maximize the money he can get for playoff tickets. Players aren't cheap. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1171 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 6:42 pm: | |
...I wish I could choose which playoff games, and not be forced to purchase tickets to all potential home games...by september 5th. |
Rjk Member Username: Rjk
Post Number: 447 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.41.145.5
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 7:35 pm: | |
"...we can not afford the reward of playoff tickets." Why would you not buy them and just sell off the tickets that you don't use? You'll be able to get more than face value for them. You'll be able to get a bundle for the World Series games (Fingers crossed). I certainly don't feel sorry for you people with the option of buying playoff tickets. |
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit
Post Number: 700 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.212.169.194
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 9:00 pm: | |
Udmphikapbob, I got stuck in 149. If you want to trade options, please let me know. |
Wilus1mj Member Username: Wilus1mj
Post Number: 103 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 67.149.62.53
| Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 11:38 pm: | |
The Bullshit thing about is that you have to pay for the entire playoffs through the world series 1 month before the playoffs start....I'm loaning $3,000 to Illitch at whatever my credit card interest rate is....with the Pistons at least let you pay round by round. |
Cynknight Member Username: Cynknight
Post Number: 76 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.209.184.103
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 12:37 am: | |
I heard on the radio about the ticket prices...but this is very disheartening. I would have to pay for tickets for 11 games - and the money wouldn't be refunded but applied to next year's season tickets. For the bleacher fans ($8 seats), if my math is correct, if the Tigers were eliminated quickly and I only saw two of the eleven potentional games paid for, I'd have over $1000 credit to put toward's next year's mini-season tickets...and the year after that...and the year after that...and the year after that.... (current price being $160 a *year* for my 20 game package). I was so hoping for the opportunity to buy tickets to just ONE playoff game. Guess this is the way they weed out the small-time customer in favor of corporations and groups who have no problem getting their hands on this kind of money for seats. There's a reason I'm in the bleachers instead of the Tiger Den - lack of cash. |
Ddmoore54 Member Username: Ddmoore54
Post Number: 310 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.242.213.242
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 12:43 am: | |
I thought MLB set the prices, not the Illitchs. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1172 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 12:46 am: | |
...they will refund your money to you by either crediting your account for next season, or by returning the money to you within 4-6 weeks... still sucks though that i have to hand over $2800 on sept. 5 |
Toledolaw05 Member Username: Toledolaw05
Post Number: 42 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 72.240.58.198
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 8:43 am: | |
If anyone can't afford their playoff tickets and wants to sell them let me know - i'm interested. |
Dnvn522 Member Username: Dnvn522
Post Number: 133 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 204.24.64.25
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 9:06 am: | |
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Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 8735 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.54.69.58
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 10:53 am: | |
Can anyone prove that MLB sets the rate for ticket prices in the playoffs? I'm not saying that they do or don't but if they do then for all of those who are whining, put the blame where it belongs. |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2122 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.106
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 11:53 am: | |
Ticket prices are set by the teams, not MLB. Otherwise they'd be the same price everywhere. |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 10511 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 12:10 pm: | |
Man, look at all the extra elbow room on the wagon! Where did everybody go? Did they really think they'd be able to get $5 tickets to watch the World Series? LMAO Question: How much would tickets to all the Red Wings Playoff games cost you all the way to the Championship? How about for the Pistons? I'll agree, the price of admission sucks, but hey, this may be a once in a lifetime deal people. |
Wilus1mj Member Username: Wilus1mj
Post Number: 104 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 216.111.89.3
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 12:15 pm: | |
At least for the Pistons, season ticket holders get discounted tickets off face value for the playoffs. Pistons also offer the option to pay for the tickets after each round the games are played...not a month before the playoffs start. |
Mrchills Member Username: Mrchills
Post Number: 25 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 63.113.196.170
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 2:59 pm: | |
Don't get too ahead of yourselves here people, interesting that they are publishing World Series Prices when the playoffs haven't even started... |
Rjk Member Username: Rjk
Post Number: 451 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.41.145.5
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 3:32 pm: | |
"Don't get too ahead of yourselves here people, interesting that they are publishing World Series Prices when the playoffs haven't even started..." Every team in the Tigers position would do the same thing. You've got to give people a chance to decide whether or not they're going to purchase tickets or not. I'm assuming this isn't a small job. I'm guessing that the Tigers will have employees working on this from now until the end of the baseball season. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1174 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 35.11.221.92
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 4:12 pm: | |
toledolaw05, i am looking to split some of the postseason games...if interested, you can email me at nickq9488 at yahoo dot com |
Baltgar Member Username: Baltgar
Post Number: 27 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 67.38.83.5
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 5:13 pm: | |
FYI - I may be posting some available postseason tix in the classified ads section of this forum in coming weeks. (Message edited by Baltgar on August 23, 2006) |
Cynknight Member Username: Cynknight
Post Number: 77 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.88.110.14
| Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 6:15 pm: | |
There's a time to be sensible and not spend a ton of money on a sporting event. However, this isn't one of them. But I'm with Balfgar - I'll be able to make tickets to some games available, I do believe. |
Pdtpuck Member Username: Pdtpuck
Post Number: 189 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 208.251.168.194
| Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 4:14 am: | |
what cracks me up is a few years ago the Chicago Black Hawks DOUBLED some of their REGULAR season seat prices...for a team that had been in the basement the previous 6-7 seasons!!! For instance, on-the-ice-level seats that were $125 went to $250!!! I can't imagine what playoff tickets would've been had they even been in contention! They don't call him "Wallet" Wirtz for nothing!!!! |
Humanmachinery Member Username: Humanmachinery
Post Number: 23 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 172.145.64.10
| Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 6:47 am: | |
The thgers had better get their asses in gear and start winning at a more consistant clip again, or they might need to refund those playoff tickets. |
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk
Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 69.246.45.147
| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 3:46 am: | |
Ilitch can kiss my ass. I loved him when he renovated the Fox, but everything he's done since - from leaving Tiger Stadium so he can have suites to tearing down the Madison-Lenox - has made him Grade A, top-shelf bad guy in my books. Sure, he's cleaned up the part of town that he owns, but the rest of the city? I'm wondering where in "Foxtown" he's going to put his new hockey arena the city/state will help pay for? Somewhere with lots of Olympia-owned parking lots and storefronts, I'm sure. I love my Tigers, but he doesn't get a dime of mine otherwise, not for pizza, not for parking. |
Clubseater Member Username: Clubseater
Post Number: 1 Registered: 09-2006 Posted From: 70.227.87.62
| Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 1:52 pm: | |
Ease up on EASTSIDECHRIS! It seems that all of you complaining about the playoff prices have NOT purchased Wings playoff tickets. It's business, and they know someone will pay if they want to go bad enough. I think EASTSIDE'S point is the lack of logic and proportioning between the types of seats. (Help me out here EASTSIDE) I have Upper Club season seats overlooking home plate that are regularly $25. My playoff seats are Row 41 in Kaline's corner, regularly $8!! The package for the Upper Club's cost $1365 per seat, while my "binocular required" seats are $1383!! These seats are not even on the stadium map! They're probably the stand up tables on the smoking section patio. I know two different people near my regular season seats that got playoff seats not too far from their usual seats. The box office tells me that there's no error, and I should be glad to have seats!! This isn't the Yankees, didn't we average about 15,000 people a game last year?? I guess they saw me coming....BENT OVER. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1251 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 35.11.212.197
| Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 4:14 pm: | |
we averaged 25,000 last year... |
Eastsidechris Member Username: Eastsidechris
Post Number: 97 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 207.69.138.9
| Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 4:43 pm: | |
Clubseater understood what a good portion of my post was mostly about--aside from the high prices, the lack of a correlation between seat location and price. I can give you a real life example--I normally sit in section 343, which are $12 seats. My seats are down the leftfield line, virtually paralell with the foul pole (roughly 350 ft. from home plate). For the World Series, an individual ticket there will cost $190. If I have an upper box seat in section 330--a great location, between home plate and the Tigers' dugout--that seat costs $20 during the regular season. Based on the other ticket increases for the playoffs, a World Series ticket there should probably cost around $240. However, this location also costs $190. In other words, two guys sitting 350 feet away from each other on the same level are paying the same price to see the same World Series game. To me, that's just messed up. And I do owe Illitch an apology...there was an article in USA Today earlier this week about postseason ticket prices. Major league baseball set those prices, so send your hate mail to Bud Selig, the commisioner. |