Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 685 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 4:45 pm: | |
Midtown and Woodbridge are fast becoming hipster heaven, but with rent and home prices on the incline, what do you think if at all will become Detroit's hip new hood. I'm throwing my vote to the lower Cass Cooridor, New Center or North Corktown |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 43 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 67.38.28.69
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 4:48 pm: | |
Delrayo! |
Wazootyman Member Username: Wazootyman
Post Number: 116 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.75.220.9
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 4:57 pm: | |
I hate the term hipster. Hell, I'm not even sure what it means. Does it mean wearing thick framed glasses, wearing an iPod and driving a compact Toyota? Because that's the vision I get every time I hear that term. |
Kpalonis
Member Username: Kpalonis
Post Number: 342 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 207.148.205.178
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:12 pm: | |
haha! me too, wazootyman. |
Nip Member Username: Nip
Post Number: 101 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 67.38.10.3
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:20 pm: | |
Actually, a hipster drives a hybrid and drinks Starbucks. |
Mbr Member Username: Mbr
Post Number: 87 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 152.160.42.163
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:24 pm: | |
The Hipster Handbook http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ ct/1400032016/102-9440338-8398 558?v=glance&n=283155 |
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal
Post Number: 916 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 68.60.139.244
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:31 pm: | |
Go to a Dorkwave Party. Those folks are the definition of "hipster". |
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog
Post Number: 716 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.20.140.8
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:49 pm: | |
Well, Esquire walked down my street in WV the other day.... |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 2082 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.220.62.136
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:52 pm: | |
Like Kramer from Seinfeld asks: "Am I a hipster dufus?" I see Brush Park becoming, and midtown/WSU remaining, hipster strongholds. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 4923 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.173.154
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:54 pm: | |
The seeds of gentrification turned a once piece of Paradise Valley into to area fit for hip cool skinny jean coated white kids. And they love it here in Detroit's midtown area. (Message edited by danny on August 31, 2006) |
Apbest Member Username: Apbest
Post Number: 168 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 35.11.155.190
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:57 pm: | |
I would say midtown and woodbridge are on the way, but they're not totally hipster, gentrified yet....there still lots of abandonment street walkers and crack heads. It's made immense progress but we're still not in full swing yet |
Detourdetroit Member Username: Detourdetroit
Post Number: 245 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 6:01 pm: | |
we got a long way to go before critical mass, hipster or otherwise. |
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog
Post Number: 718 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.20.140.8
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 6:17 pm: | |
It'll never be Brush Park. Too much new construction and high rents. I can tell you that my younger brother who is 100% hipster certified now lives in a loft in Mexicantown (close to Corktown but cheaper). He has friends in lofts and big old houses in New Center (close to Woodbridge and the Corridor but cheaper). Hipsters want to pay about $300/month rent and will achieve this with roommates and really rundown places. Houses are popular - they also want lots of space to throw parties. It seems many of you are confusing hipsers with young professionals, while the two do crossover, the hardcore poor as dirt hipsters have no money and are actually being pushed out of Corktown and Woodbridge by rising rents catering to professionals. This has been my observation over the past 6 years at least. WV has the right kinds of housing and rents but it's too far from the corridor and wayne state. There are some hipster/professional crossovers who live in WV though (like me). |
Islandman Member Username: Islandman
Post Number: 325 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 68.42.171.59
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 7:10 pm: | |
"hip cool skinny jean coated white kids" Coated?!? Thank you Danny. |
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1245 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 8:29 pm: | |
coated = wearing coat |
Jfried Member Username: Jfried
Post Number: 887 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.47.87.96
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 9:09 pm: | |
coated = pants that are so tight they look like they are painted on .... anyone who would refer to themself as a hipster is just a weiner..... |
Ghetto_butterfly
Member Username: Ghetto_butterfly
Post Number: 643 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 68.60.139.186
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 9:59 pm: | |
I'd say "Gold Coast" E. Jefferson except (or in addition to) IV and West Village as they are established neighborhoods already. It's the next Magnificent Mile, plus I live there. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 157 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 10:23 pm: | |
Its going to be Warrendale, you should see all of the building on W Warren. How knows what is going to go into all of those places? Starbucks? |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1892 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.255.237.212
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 10:38 pm: | |
Damn, DP beat me to the punch on this one. Consider a few basic neighborhood facts: * 8 new businesses have opened in the past 6 months; * 2 more are under construction and several long vacant business properties are being renovated and put on the market; * A local bar that was named "Best Teensy Irish Pub" by the Detroit News and "Best Reason to Order a Pint" by the Free Press; * A local eatery that routinely serves what 2 reporters from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette referred to as, and I quote, "the greatest breakfast of our lives"; * A great assortment of local dining - with cuisine that ranges from Polish to Italian to Mexican to Arabic to classic American diner; * More bars than either midtown or Woodbridge; * Close proximity to the largest municipal park in southeast Michigan (yes, it's even larger than Belle Isle); * Also, close proximity to the only mountain bike trail in Wayne County; * Oh, yeah - and the new NFL/Youth Education Town. Sorry. Woodbridge, Brush Park and all the rest are great neighborhoods but they don't have what Warrendale has. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1224 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 35.11.212.197
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 10:41 pm: | |
frank, whats the population and demographics of the neighborhood now?? Its an aging population, right? |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 687 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 10:41 pm: | |
Where exactly is Warrendale. When I thought of the areas I considered Wayne State being close as one of the factors. I have heard that West Village was getting popular and know a few folk who are there. |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1893 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.255.237.212
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 11:01 pm: | |
Motorcitymayor2026: Population is a little over 30,000. The demographics are in the neighborhood of 35-40% White and 35-40% Black with the balance being a mix of Latinos and Arabs. A lot of the "aging population" that the area was known for in the 1980s and 90s have left the neighborhood (either to a new area or to the cemetary). In their place, a lot of young families have moved into the area (this is one of the reasons why the NFL/YET was built in Warrendale). Chitaku: The boundaries are Joy Road to the north, the city limits to the south, Greenfield/city limits to the east and Rouge Park/city limits to the west. The area is surrounded by Dearborn on two sides and by Dearborn Heights on a third. (Message edited by fnemecek on August 30, 2006) |
Gannon
Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 6494 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.198.22
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 11:09 pm: | |
Fnemecek, ONE of those Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reporters didn't happen to be Maeve Reston, did it?! Met her at a Starbuck's in Southfield after Kerry's bus trip before the last non-election...fabulous woman, covers their political beat. Can you tell us which restaurant, or are you unwilling to make the wait longer for your meal?! |
Scofield Member Username: Scofield
Post Number: 27 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 11:18 pm: | |
hipsters? you mean, these guys?
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Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1227 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 35.11.212.197
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 11:23 pm: | |
ahh, thanks frank.... so the hotel (doubletree i think) and that shopping area are included in the neighborhood?? |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1894 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.255.237.212
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 11:27 pm: | |
Gannon: The reporters in question were Jeff Ivey and Rich Rudek. They were in town for SBXL and stopped in. The restaurant in question is Steve's Three Brothers (17820 W. Warren Avenue - 313-271-1227). If you go, try their pan fried pierogis. http://warrendale.blogspot.com /2006/04/pittsburgh-shows-some -warrendale-love.html |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1895 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.255.237.212
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 11:35 pm: | |
MCM: The Doubletree is, along with the shopping plaza on the west side of the Soutfield Fwy. The other shopping plaza, the one on the other side of the freeway and where most of the store fronts are vacant, is in Dearborn. I could make a wise-crack about the one in Warrendale doing well while the one in Dearborn having so much trouble - but frankly, I don't need anymore hate mail from the guy who run the Dearborn blog. LOL! |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1228 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 35.11.212.197
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 11:43 pm: | |
good to know... too bad no one really realizes that is Detroit, especially since the Doubletree is the Dearborn Doubletree... oh well |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 10531 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236
| Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 11:54 pm: | |
quote:Sorry. Woodbridge, Brush Park and all the rest are great neighborhoods but they don't have what Warrendale has.
Sadly, I agree. We still lack an Fnemecek. lol Seriously, Woodbridge full of cool hipsters? Somebody needs to check the definition, as Woodbridge is still made up of mostly long time residents, followed by college kids, and a handful of relative newbies like myself in their late 20's/early 30's. There is a healthy stock of artists, including musicians. When I think hipsters, I think the trendy types making mega bucks and always in search of the closest Starbucks. I wouldn't even say Corktown has really undergone a "cool/hipster" infill, regardless of what newspaper articles may say. Now with the new lofts being developmed down there, along with the redevelopment of Tiger Stadium, this could change quickly, as only "cool/hipsters" will be able to pony up the cash for these new places. Only time will tell, but for now, downtown and Brush Park will be the cool/hipster's HQ. I'm gonna have to check this Warrendale place out sometime soon. I've been through it many times, but never really stopped to take notice I guess. |
Michael Member Username: Michael
Post Number: 773 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.120.229.187
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 6:53 am: | |
quote:The boundaries are Joy Road to the north, the city limits to the south, Greenfield/city limits to the east and Rouge Park/city limits to the west.
Wow, now my grandma's in Warrendale? Back in the W.A.C.O. (Warren Avenue Community Organization) days the mile East of Southfield to Greenfield was considered West Warren and not good enough to be called Warrendale. I always thought it was a conspiracy on the part of the Sts. Peter&Paul community against the St. Christopher community. That and W.A.C.O. didn't want Herman Gardens in on the mix, which is why I recall the Northern boundary as Tireman as well. |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 45 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.255.238.194
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 7:55 am: | |
When visiting Steve and his three brother be sure to spin around the back and check the overflowing dumpsters that have created rodent problems dating back 20 years. The breakfast will bring in the occasional but the secondhand blight will take the permanent. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 158 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 63.85.13.248
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 9:12 am: | |
Steve has not even been there 30 years, he was located elsewhere in Warrendale and had a place off of Michigan near St Hedwigs as well. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 175 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 64.131.176.232
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 10:25 am: | |
Yeah Michael, I grew up a little farther north on the fwy, not too far, but I have never ever known Warrendale to extend east of the freeway. Everything west of the freeway (south of Warren) was mainly white, and east of the freeway (south of Warren) was where there was a little mix (white, black, arab). I've never ever known Herman Gardens to be part of Warrendale... or anything else bordering Joy Rd. for that matter. I spent a lot of time over that way too because I played little league baseball in that area. |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 46 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 67.38.28.69
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 10:39 am: | |
20 years. You know Twenny. It's like Fiddy. |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1896 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.219.103.133
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:04 pm: | |
quote:When visiting Steve and his three brother be sure to spin around the back and check the overflowing dumpsters that have created rodent problems dating back 20 years.
Overflowing dumpsters? Hardly. Check out this photo of their dumpsters and the area behind Steve's Three Brothers. http://igorfilms.com/warrendal e/warrendale233.jpg There's some cardboard that fell in between their dumpster and the one for the cabinet shop next door to them, but nothing that would attract rodents. |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1897 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.219.103.133
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:08 pm: | |
Michael & Iheartthed: The boundaries for the two community organizations in Warrendale is the Southfield Fwy. However, I've always thought of both sides of the freeway as still being "Warrendale". I mean, just take a look at all of the businesses that are east of the freeway, but are named Warrendale. There's the Warrendale Bar, Warrendale Dental Center, a strip mall called the Warrendale Plaza, Warrendale Mortgage and a few others. |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 2772 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 128.36.14.70
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:11 pm: | |
Warrendale represents a healthy bite of POPULATED westside Detroit. It is mostly made up of tidy post-war detroit bungalows ... I can't imagine on any planet that it ever becomes "hip" ... but anyway ... apparently warrendale's boundaries have expanded eastward a mile or so (and westward past rouge park too) recently but Detroit's neighborhood designations have never been etched in stone. Warrendale has an excellent location with easy access to NS (southfield and telegraph) and EW (Jeffries and Ford Rd.) transportation routes. It is immediately adjacent (and even shares) convenient shopping of Dearborn to the south and east and Dearborn Heights/redford twp. to the west. Since it lies along the Warren bus line is even one of the few far westside neighborhoods that has easy Public transportation access to the cultural center (oops! Midtown) and the eastside. It's proximity to rouge park has, oddly, never been much of a significant selling point (as has been the case with most Detroit neighborhoods with wonderful natural features consider: greyhaven, island view, palmer park, gold coast etc etc.). In olden tymes, traditional Warrendale (west of southfield east of rouge park) was not only westside's version of Polonia but it was also a favored neighborhood for young married white cops, firemen and other city workers (as was the section of West Warren SOUTH of warren). As realestate values in Detroit plummetted in the 60's and 70's these sorta familes were able to afford to buy in what had been pricier Detroit neighborhoods and were replaced by working class families typically migrating westward from MI/Lonyo area or from east on Warren. Traditional Warrendale was, arguably, the last significantly "white" large neighborhood in Detroit, remaining majority white well into the 1980's. Many of these white families were older empty nesters tho. The decline in Detroit property values in the 80's and 90's hurt Warrendale in that the families moving into the neighborhood over this period were significantly poorer than the retirees they were replacing ... however imo most of Warrendale appears about as tidy as it ever was whether it is older retired couples or younger extended families (mostly black but also a bit latino and anglo white was well) poplulating the little bungalows. The neighborhood to the immediate north of traditional Warrendale appears to have caught the same house eating virus that infected Brightmoor (even further north) so that represents a bit of stress on the place ... The fact that the "Warrendale" designation has expanded eastward over the stubble of Herman gardens to include the small but interestingly racially mixed (Black/Lebanese/Latino/with a touch of Anglowhite) portion of what had been an entirely different neighborhood is a curious exercise in attempting to build and grow a neighborhood "brand". Perhaps it will work (like it has in Midtown and possibly Corktown) perhaps it will linger with so-so results (like it has in the "Rosedale" amalgam). Perhaps it will fail (as it did in "Old Redford"). That far eastern part of today's warrendale is a really neat place, the retail is an odd mix of things ... imagine a drag show bar along the same stretch as a half dozen new lebanese mom and pop businesses ... one wonders what the neighborhood itself is like, lol! Yay Detroit! Yay Warrendale, westside Detroit's buffer neighborhood from West Dearborn! (Message edited by rustic on August 31, 2006) |
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog
Post Number: 721 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 12.47.224.7
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:12 pm: | |
Warrendale is way too far from Hipster Central (i.e. the Majestic/Magic Stick). |
Jfried Member Username: Jfried
Post Number: 888 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.190
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:14 pm: | |
Warrendale and N. Corktown are cool, but I see them becoming more family oriented, rather than "hip." I think the greatest potential for a "hip" neighborhood is in the Milwaukee Junction/New Center area. You have everything from Tech Town, the Russell Industrial Complex, art galleries/co ops, real industrial lofts, tons of affordable rentals, and the gritty feel of the train overpasses and remaining industrial fixtures. |
Jfried Member Username: Jfried
Post Number: 889 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.190
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:25 pm: | |
by the way supersport, your off on the hipster definition... they're the cool alternative kids who are cool now, ironically, because they were nerds in high school... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H ipster |
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog
Post Number: 723 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 12.47.224.7
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:28 pm: | |
Jfried, New Center 100%. Downtown and Brush Park are about the farthest thing from a hipster type area. It was hip when I lived down there 5-6 years ago when rents were really cheap and there where lots of underground parties and dive joints and the clubs played edgier stuff. It's mostly professionals downtown (and in Brush Park) now. My definition of hipster has always been the poor artist/musician partier type (back then it was the raver technoheads - I am one - now we're overrun with indie-rockers) but I'm sure we could come up with all sorts of classifications of hipsters. It seems to me that to be in on the latest trends in music, art and fashion, you can't be tied down to a 9-5 job all day. |
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog
Post Number: 724 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 12.47.224.7
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:32 pm: | |
Oh and don't forget Hamtramck. It has faded in popularity as lots of hip Hamtowners moved to Detroit, but is still going strong. The problem with Hamtramck is no jobs. If you live there you gotta work in Detroit. |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 426 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 67.107.47.65
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:54 pm: | |
Which neighborhood has the retirement home for the formerly hip? (I used to be hip from about 1978-89) |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 2773 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 128.36.14.70
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 1:02 pm: | |
"Which neighborhood has the retirement home for the formerly hip?" I'd guess: Hip Detroiter in the 70's: now you live in Royal Oak (white), Southfield (Black) Hip Detroiter in the 80's: now you live in Southfield (black), West Bloomfield (black), Chicago (white), Brooklyn (white) or Atlanta (black) Hip in the 90s: ...? btw "formerly hip" could be worse ... eventually it'll be "hip replacement" ... and you'll be living in FLA (Message edited by rustic on August 31, 2006) |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 47 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 67.38.28.69
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 2:32 pm: | |
Maybe I am wrong about Steve's mess. I don't make the long drive to the old neighborhood often. It looks like they have moved from the just east of the southfield location (near the former Dixon's office supply). That was the location and situation I was refering to. It was terrible. |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 456 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 198.175.55.5
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 2:37 pm: | |
Hipsters and yuppies are NOT the same thing. Many of you are using them interchangably. |
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1248 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 216.223.168.132
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 2:41 pm: | |
From Wikipedia: Since the late 1990s, the word hipster has resurfaced as a term to describe performers and devotees of indie rock and downtempo electronica, and related styles of music, and those who follow the associated fashions and tastes. The stereotypical accessories of the modern hipster include Vespa scooters, Buddy Holly-style glasses, white belts, membership in a local band, Converse style shoes, and vintage clothing [citation needed]. They may frequently spend lots of money and time on achieving that look via shopping copiously at vintage clothing stores and thrift stores [citation needed]. Neighborhoods such as Williamsburg, Brooklyn; The Mission District, San Francisco; Hollywood, Los Angeles; and other, smaller concentrations across the country have become popular living and recreational destinations for hipsters. Hipsters dining preferences are often of the vegetarian variety [citation needed]. An alcoholic beverage popular among hipsters is PBR, along with other cheap, working-class beers. Some modern day hipsters have no real need for a job (and are often supported by his or her parents) [citation needed] -- this variety of hipster is commonly (and derisively) known as "Trust Fund Babies" or "Trippies" (Trust Fund + Hippie). Regardless of financial stability, when most hipsters are employed they are usually involved in something allowing interaction with other hipsters, such as an alternative music shop, coffee shop, or bar [citation needed]. Modern hipsters also frequently follow, or are involved with, the local art and DJ scenes, and are often associated with independent film and alternative comics [citation needed]. Unlike previous generations of hipsters, they are rarely now associated with the jazz scene, though the term likely re-entered use as a result of the swing revival and lounge revival of the mid-1990s, which many current hipsters were associated with at the time. [citation needed] Popular hipster sports include Dodgeball -- there is even an hipster dodgeball league [3] -- which, like many of the hipster activities, is simultaneously both semi-ironic as well as a nostalgaic reference to the culture of their early childhood. As with any distinctive subculture, the hipster is sometimes a target of derision or satire. A common criticism is that most are simply "culture miners" who are not as creative and unique as they might lead one to believe. The term "Cut & Paste Generation" was coined to refer to hipsters due to the perception that they heavily embrace previous clothing and music styles, often ironically. [citation needed] However, as the subculture is a fairly amorphous group that generally appreciates irony and self-deprecation, the audience for such criticism is often as not the hipsters themselves. Robert Lanham's The Hipster Handbook affectionately lampoons the hipster cliché in its current incarnation. David Brooks of the New York Times aptly described the recent generation of hipsters as "laid low by the ironies of consumerism". Numerous web sites also exist that less-affectionately express their authors' exasperation at hipster clichés. Many would argue that the term "hipster" itself has become mildly derisive, and it is seldom used as a label for self-identification, except in an ironic or self-deprecating way. Hipsters are often considered by those inside, but rarely outside, the scene as being introspective, politically active [4], selfless, humble, intelligent, and unique.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H ipster |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1898 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.212.39.232
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 3:33 pm: | |
quote:I'm gonna have to check this Warrendale place out sometime soon. I've been through it many times, but never really stopped to take notice I guess.
Give me a holler when you're heading over, SS. I'll buy you a round at Chick's Bar. |
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog
Post Number: 725 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 12.47.224.7
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 4:20 pm: | |
Parkstone Market in West Village has $1.99 40's of PBR. Aww yeah... |
Harmonie Member Username: Harmonie
Post Number: 614 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 198.109.32.15
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 4:21 pm: | |
"The stereotypical accessories of the modern hipster include Buddy Holly-style glasses, white belts, membership in a local band, Converse style shoes, and vintage clothing...An alcoholic beverage popular among hipsters is PBR, along with other cheap, working-class beers." That is right on the mark! It describes half of my friends Another term that is used almost interchangeably with hipster is scenester, based more on a person's continuous presence in the local rock n' roll scene. I agree with Eastside and Jfried...Hamtramck and New Center are already teeming with hiptsters. Woodbridge and N. Corktown are starting to become hot spots. Sorry Frank, as cool as Warrendale is I don't see hipsters going that far from Wayne State...probably also cuz I would say the majority are/were Eastsiders or Oakland County folk who would move to the Cabbage Patch or Morningside before going West Siiiide |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 690 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 4:24 pm: | |
Morning side would be intresting. There is a decent bar/ retail area on the GP Detroit border. Although this is from an east sider. I've never even heard of Warrendale. |
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog
Post Number: 727 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 12.47.224.7
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 4:50 pm: | |
I saw somewhere that Warrendale used to have an Rock n Roll Fest. Don't know if they have it anymore. Michael? |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 159 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 63.85.13.248
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 5:12 pm: | |
It really wasn't a rock and reoll festival, it was more of a street fair. They would close off Warren for several Blocks, Mitch Ryder would play some tunes (he lives here). They also had rides, and polish food. It was much like the Arab Festival on Warren Avenue, except a couple miles West. |
Lakesuperior Member Username: Lakesuperior
Post Number: 133 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.77.170.94
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 7:35 pm: | |
fyi: a hipster would NEVER go to starbucks. you're mixing stereotypes... |
Korridorkid Member Username: Korridorkid
Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 204.57.103.2
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 7:47 pm: | |
What aspects of an area would neessarily make it a potential breeding ground for hipsters? Are there "pillars of hipdom" that every hip area must have or be proximate too? What could be considered tapped out hipster areas? What do these interesting creatures look for when they wish to re-habitat? |
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1250 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 8:15 pm: | |
I agree, Lakesuperior!
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Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 174 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44
| Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 8:21 pm: | |
quote: Mitch Ryder would play some tunes (he lives here). They also had rides, and polish food. ______________________________ ___________________ Mitch Ryder grew up around Pershing High on East 7 Mile near Ryan. Last I heard, he was living in Royal Oak. When did he move back home to Detroit? Also, why would an Eastsider GO west? Just wondering...Detroitej72...Proudly Eastside Pole! (Message edited by detroitej72 on August 31, 2006) |
Fnemecek
Member Username: Fnemecek
Post Number: 1899 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 70.227.217.110
| Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 12:18 pm: | |
quote:Sorry Frank, as cool as Warrendale is I don't see hipsters going that far from Wayne State...probably also cuz I would say the majority are/were Eastsiders or Oakland County folk who would move to the Cabbage Patch or Morningside before going West Siiiide.
This comment prompts an interesting question. The question that started this thread was: what will be Detroit's next hip neighborhood? This makes me ask: is a neighborhood defined as being "hip" by the presence of hipsters/scenesters with white belts and Buddy Holly-style glasses? Or is it ordinary people who have a lot of really cool things to do in or near their neighborhood? |
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk
Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 69.246.45.147
| Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 4:08 am: | |
I'd think Midtown is a safe bet. Anything near Wayne State and the Majestic Theatre complex. I'm 26 this month, wear thick-rimmed glasses, own a hooded sweatshirt and listen to vinyl, so I guess some might call me a hipster. I live in New Center, though I'd much rather live in Corktown. |
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765
Post Number: 923 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 4.229.51.3
| Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 9:12 am: | |
My vote for upcoming hipster hood is "The Eye" - LMAO... |