  Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 577 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 71.159.22.100 |
From Clickondetroit.com DETROIT, Mich. -- Michigan Democrats said Thursday they had reached a deal with Ontario officials to eliminate the influx of Canadian trash into state landfills by 2010. Sens. Debbie Stabenow and Carl Levin and Rep. John Dingell, D-Dearborn, said the agreement with Ontario's Minister of the Environment, Laurel Broten, would phase out shipments of Canadian municipal solid waste over four years. They said the plan was supported by the City of Toronto and other regions that have shipped trash to Michigan. The Canadian communities would find alternative waste management options and not renew existing contracts with Michigan landfills beyond 2010. In return, Stabenow and Levin said they would not pursue legislation that would lead to hundreds of dollars of fees for Canadian companies that haul trash into state landfills. The fees would pay for security inspections at the border. Canadian trash has been a perennial issue for state residents, prompting health and security complaints. About 350 truckloads of the trash enter the U.S. daily at Detroit and Port Huron and state officials have said they will run out of landfill space in less than two decades. The announcement came a week before Congress is expected to consider legislation to give Michigan and other states the power to curb the trash from entering its borders. | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 486 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 198.103.184.76 |
Now Michigan needs to start curbing the amount of trash its receives from other states or is this not a hot button political issue? Will Congress step up to save Michigan's landfills from the Ohio's garbage? Don't hold your breath, unless you are doing so to avoid the smell.... | ||
Mattric43 Member Username: Mattric43 Post Number: 30 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 12.15.7.70 |
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Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2139 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.234 |
You can't curb trash imports from other states. It conflicts with the interstate commerce regulations. If you tried the other states would sue and win. | ||
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 247 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 69.136.155.244 |
Gee, it must be an election year! Having noted that fact, it should be kept in mind that MI is an importer of trash because of our low tipping fees - they're so low, that it makes economic sense for Toronto to send their garbage trucks on 500 mile round trips to dump all of their garbage here instead of in Ontario. Why are our tipping fees so low, you ask? Because we have a surplus of landfills in this state. Why is that? It's because the State of Michigan during the Blanchard Administration did a "Chicken Little" act over how we were running out of landfill space at an alarming rate. So instead of letting natural market forces create additional supply, they mandated that every county come up with a solid waste plan and that they provide for at least one landfill within their border, unless they joined forces with a neighboring county. The result was a glut of landfill space and when landfill supply exceeds demand, the tipping fees they can command naturally go down due to competition. So here we have an example of where the state government caused a problem and instead of fixing the cause, another unit of government goes and applies a band-aid on it. | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 487 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 198.103.184.76 |
Apparently NAFTA can be curbed, however. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8757 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.71.59.87 |
Good for Michigan. Now Toronto will have to come up with their own plan for their own garbage instead of dumping it on everyone else. Snobby SOBs. | ||
Yaktown Member Username: Yaktown Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 69.216.120.0 |
No more Canadian trash? Does that include Jennifer Granholm? /ducks and runs | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4306 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
Stabenow and Levin have been working at this for years now. Good to finally see the hardwork paying off. I'm also glad to see money didn't win out over public safety/health, for once. | ||
Angry_dad Member Username: Angry_dad Post Number: 89 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.227.48.51 |
Stabenow and Levin have been working on this for years and the best they can do is allow four more years of garbage into Michigan and eat the cost of figuring out what's on the trucks? There is no doubt about it, Debbie Stabenow is Dangerously Incompetent. | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 1240 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 35.11.212.197 |
angry_dad, your response is pathetic | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4312 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
If they wouldn't have done this, he'd be complaining about why this wasn't being worked on. You can't win for losing. Even Mike Bouchard said, today, that he was wary of this, but he wasn't complaining about this having happened. Angry Dad has already lost all credibility with me, and it began the first time I saw his screen name. | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 1241 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 35.11.212.197 |
exactly, the handle says it all | ||
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 252 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 69.136.155.244 |
From today's Free Press: "But industrial and commercial waste brought across the border from Ontario by private haulers totals more than 200 loads daily, said Toronto City Councilman Adam Giambrone, who also is vice chair of the city's public works committee. That won't change with Thursday's agreement." Bottom line: this deal only effects about 1/3 of the Canadian waste that is currently landfilled in Michign and it won't be fully phased in until 2010. I guess something is better than nothing, but this agreement sure didn't deserve all the media hoop-la and self-congratulating from the Democrats. MCM2026, haven't you seen this photo that Stabenow posed for (and no, it has not been Photoshopped)?  It kinda reminds me of these photo-ops gone wrong, except Stabenow didn't wear any goofy headgear:  2004 Democrat Presidential candidate John Kerry courts the "Tour de France Dads".  1988 Democrat Presidential candidate Michael Dukakis plays "tank commander" at the General Dynamics Land Systems facility in Sterling Heights. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4313 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
Mikeg, you mean like all of the self-contragulating done when the Republicans put away the SBT this year, only to find out in a report that came out weeks later than it had very little to do with the bad economy? Seriously, let's get real here. BTW, I don't see what John Kerry or Dukakis have to do with this, but I guess picture posting can be fun, huh? | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 1245 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 35.11.212.197 |
wheres the one with Bush falling off his bike?!?! | ||
Angry_dad Member Username: Angry_dad Post Number: 90 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.227.48.51 |
I don't want or need Stabenow, Levin and Dingell telling me how they solved a problem by doing nothing. Unless you know otherwise, that is exactly what their PR release says, they did nothing and they quit on efforts to make Canada pay to inspect trucks coming here. So in the long run, they made things worse. Yep it ranks right up there with the "Mission Accomplished" photo op. So why are you mad at me? I'm not the one lying to you, that would be Stabenow, Levin and Dingell, get mad at them. Oh yeah it is "Dangerously Incompetent Debbie Stabenow", any politician that poses next to sign like that is painfully shortsighted. |
