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Username: Formerspringgardener
Post Number: 9
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 63.115.132.99
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:08 am: |    |
I got the email from Tessa that Karmic is closed for today and is changing management yet again.
Supposed to reopen on Friday. |
Motorcitymayor2026
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Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1274
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 35.11.212.197
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:09 am: | |
ask Chitaku... |
Hysteria
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Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1278
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 216.223.168.132
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 12:19 pm: | |
Poor Chitaku .... |
Swingline
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Username: Swingline
Post Number: 585
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 4.229.60.166
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 12:25 pm: | |
I hope that this small business can turn it around. I've had several meals from there and all have been quite good. They never seem to be too busy though and I think that their prices are the reason. An entree and a drink can set you back $9.00 or pretty close to that amount. That's too steep for carry-out in Detroit. London, Paris, Tokyo, maybe not, but for Detroit, yes. They need to re-work their business model and get the price point a couple dollars lower. If that's not possible, there's no sense in re-opening. |
Hysteria
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Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1280
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 216.223.168.132
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 12:32 pm: | |
You pay for the ambience there. |
Vas
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Username: Vas
Post Number: 621
Registered: 01-2004
Posted From: 70.237.164.67
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 12:53 pm: | |
I agree. The food is good, but they need to offer more reasonable prices.
I spent $11 on lunch and there didn't seem to be any way to go cheaper.
If you can get our the door for $7/$8 and leave the higher priced options as well that would seem to work.
Its more along the lines of the basement cafe at the cultural center across form the DIA and I think it would work much better.
Also, why were there 4 people behind the counter? Seems like they were over employed. |
Formerspringgardener
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Username: Formerspringgardener
Post Number: 10
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 63.115.132.99
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 1:29 pm: | |
I haven't been back since the last management coup.
The prices wouldn't seem as bad if the portions were a little larger. |
Deandub11
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Username: Deandub11
Post Number: 56
Registered: 05-2006
Posted From: 69.209.197.177
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 1:54 pm: | |
Yea prices are outrageous, but the idea is great. Hopefully better management will step in and create a viable option. |
Solarflare
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Username: Solarflare
Post Number: 531
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 63.69.106.3
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 2:36 pm: | |
I can't believe what I'm reading here...I really hope you people have taken these concerns directly to the business owner before spouting off, quite slanderously and libelously I might add, on a public forum.
How dare you. |
Chitaku
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Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 715
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 3:24 pm: | |
Hey guys, I just got back from Karmic. the Chef has parted ways with the buisness for reasons I don't know. Myself Tessa and Joe were in there all day scrubbing the place. It is clean as a whistle and we will be open tommorow. I am going to try my best to make the stuff the Mike used to make. We employees are trying to build the buisness because we all need a job. I guess new management is coming but I don't know the ownerships plans for that or for us. As for the prices, they may seem high but they reflect what we pay for the organic food. So in a nutshell, we are open tommorow, we have everything in so the menu will be normal, and we are just going to what we can I guess. I know my restaraunts so it will be as good as it was. |
Chitaku
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Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 716
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 3:25 pm: | |
by the way if you don't think you got enough food, as nicely and we always give more! |
Tndetroiter
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Username: Tndetroiter
Post Number: 229
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 141.217.225.108
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 3:35 pm: | |
Where is this fine establishment? |
Chitaku
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Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 717
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 3:42 pm: | |
Guardian Building, main floor |
Hysteria
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Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1282
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 216.223.168.132
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 4:07 pm: | |
I hope it works out, Chitaku.
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Deandub11
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Username: Deandub11
Post Number: 64
Registered: 05-2006
Posted From: 69.209.197.177
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 4:21 pm: | |
I hope it works out as well. It really is extremely good. |
Susanarosa
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Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1134
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 208.39.170.78
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 4:27 pm: | |
But obviously, not as good as Chipotle. |
Bobj
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Username: Bobj
Post Number: 1086
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 65.221.183.220
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 4:32 pm: | |
Good luck, I hope it makes it! |
Chitaku
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Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 718
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 4:43 pm: | |
thanks everyone |
Spaceboykelly
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Username: Spaceboykelly
Post Number: 172
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 141.217.84.72
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 4:55 pm: | |
Those who want vegetarian/vegan food at an affordable price should go to The Good Well [Food Patch organic thing]. They have great sandiwches and soup & being that it's affordable enough for me... everyone else on the forum should be able to afford it.
It's on Willis in between Avalon Bread, and the communist bookstore.
So far this place has been great, and I'd like to see it do well. |
Psewick
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Username: Psewick
Post Number: 54
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 70.235.110.46
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 5:11 pm: | |
Chitaku,
Is that why they closed way early on Wednesday [ABRUPT EDIT - I'm deleting things out of this post that I should not have typed here.]
I really hope the place is successful. If only I was an experienced, skilled chef and the place could pay me $27K a year--I'd totally apply for the newly-emptied position. I like my bookkeeping job, but working in a vegan restaurant inside of an Art Deco masterpiece would be awwwsooommmeee....
--Paul
(Message edited by Psewick on September 07, 2006) |
Chitaku
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Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 719
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 5:15 pm: | |
Ha I don't know about any of that, I always use the buildings keys. |
Psewick
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Username: Psewick
Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 70.235.110.46
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 5:22 pm: | |
Please get in touch with Anny. The missing key ring had other needed keys on it.
Thanks |
Mbr
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Username: Mbr
Post Number: 89
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 69.246.45.72
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 9:36 pm: | |
How about food by the pound like most other vegetarian places. |
1953
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Username: 1953
Post Number: 982
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 65.54.154.117
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 9:47 pm: | |
Chitaku...do you know a Klute? |
Chitaku
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Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 720
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 10:22 pm: | |
yes i do |
Chitaku
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Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 721
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 10:23 pm: | |
how do you know her 1953? |
Smogboy
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Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 3707
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 69.47.100.44
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:04 pm: | |
Solarflare, how is this slanderous or libelous in any way?? People are offering their opinions as to what they believe to be a fair price. Did I miss something where people were stating anything factual and horrible about the Karmic???
I see this thread as quite the opposite. People here WANT the Karmic to thrive. It's a great little restaurant that serves good food. You might disagree and think they're doing wonderfully well, the prices are fair, etc. but those would be your opinions as well- no different than the people who think that the portions could be a bit bigger for the amount they're paying.
And to top it off Chitaku came in eloquently and quickly explianed the situation. Pure & simple. So I have no idea where anyone on this thread was even meanspirited in anyway. |
Hysteria
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Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1289
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:09 pm: | |
I think Solarflare was kidding ...
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Smogboy
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Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 3709
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 69.47.100.44
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:12 pm: | |
And you do that by finishing off the statement with "How Dare You"?? I failed to see the humor. |
Hysteria
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Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1290
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:15 pm: | |
Your post seemed kind of serious, Smogboy ...
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Smogboy
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Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 3711
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 69.47.100.44
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:18 pm: | |
Yeah, I guess I take it a bit personal when someone starts throwing around terms like "slanderous & libelous" so casually. Them's some pretty heavy terms to be labelling folks. |
Detroitplanner
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Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 164
Registered: 04-2006
Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 1:30 am: | |
I've not been back since the $10 beans and rice episode. First it was dropping the celery and carrots from the peanut butter sandwich then the doubling of the price of the beans and rice.
I would expect to pay more than Jimmy Johns to eat at Karmic, but something has to be done to make this more affordable to the average worker (I don't see this place as beiing a substitute for the Chuch Muers/Carl's clientele, so it should price itself competitively.
Karmic has a great Keilbasa sandwich made with organic pigs and organic wonder bread. (just seeing if anyone ever reads my rants anymore) |
Formerspringgardener
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Username: Formerspringgardener
Post Number: 12
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 63.115.132.99
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 7:41 am: | |
And those Kielbasa's are made with the usual Karmic Kuality!!! |
Chitaku
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Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 722
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 4:20 pm: | |
We did great today and I forsee great things for the future of Karmic |
Hysteria
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Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1297
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 4:27 pm: | |
Glad to hear that. |
Smogboy
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Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 3721
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 69.47.100.44
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 8:02 pm: | |
I'm hopeful & optimistic as well. It's definitely a breath of fresh air to the dining choices we have downtown. |
Mani
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Username: Mani
Post Number: 119
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 68.60.182.26
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:00 pm: | |
who owns karmic cafe? i keep hearing management problems. who is management and what is the problem? please answer. i over heard people in the guardian complaining about a guy with white hair...but really what is the problem?
i like the food and establishment and would like to be informed. |
Mani
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Username: Mani
Post Number: 120
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 68.60.182.26
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:23 pm: | |
what does changing management mean? are the owner and manager two (or more) different people? |
1953
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Username: 1953
Post Number: 986
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 65.54.155.53
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 12:16 am: | |
Chitaku...here's a hint: I'm one of three people you picked up from the Hazen Pingree pubcrawl. |
Mani
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Username: Mani
Post Number: 121
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 68.60.182.26
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 2:57 pm: | |
chitaku...do you know what is happening, please see my post. thank you. |
Chitaku
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Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 725
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 69.136.147.97
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 4:43 pm: | |
Ok the owner is not directly involved, he had a chef running the place but the chef has since parted ways. there is no real management change, we just felt that was a good way to put things. I don't know what more to say exept we keep the place clean now and I am exploring ways to have different price ranges. We have even implemented half orders for 4.99 which really are full orders in smaller boxes. |
Mani
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Username: Mani
Post Number: 122
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 68.60.182.26
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 7:21 pm: | |
Thanks. Well i really like Karmic and the food. It is good to get the prices down a little. I hope things work out because I would like to see this place stick around for along time. As well the juicebar. I love juicebars, there are not enough around. |
Smogboy
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Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 3723
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 69.47.100.44
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 8:40 pm: | |
My only beef (no pun intended) against the Karmic Cafe is that you really can't do one stop shopping. One has to go upstairs to order the juices, scamper back down to order the food and go back up and HOPE the juices are done to accompany the meal. It might be fine for carry-out but if one wants to dine in, it's tricky. It has nothing to do with the quality of the food or anything but it is a little bit of work to get it. |