  Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4977 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
Latest figures from SEMCOG's Community and population estimates showed that Dearborn's population has passed the 100,000 mark making the 1st largest populated suburb in Wayne County While Livonia's population of 100,000 is long gone due to white flight, more empty nesters and poor school district and lower ecomonic job base since the people opt out the SMART bus system. Meanwhile, Detroit's population continue to decrease to 866,000 people. Macomb County may surpass Detroit's population by late 2007. http://www.semcog.org/Data/Pop ulationEstimates/assets/po0906 .pdf The black population, mostly from the ghettohoods of Detroit, continue to migrate to other suburban cities. Warren has gained over 9,800 blacks, Troy gained 5,000 blacks, Sterling Heights gained 4,800 blacks, Farmington Hills and Westland's black population has boomed to 14%. Eastpointe and Harper Woods would be next on the growing black population list. | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 253 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 69.19.14.32 |
what do you call it when a black family moves out of the city? black flight? Who gives a frig what color you are if you want to move? Is it reverse racism if a black family moves out of Detroit? What if a white family moves into Detroit, got a special name for that as well? I am sick of hearing *white flight*, maybe people just want to move | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 254 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 69.19.14.32 |
and you know why Macomb's population is growing? Black flight! | ||
Bob Member Username: Bob Post Number: 1141 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.136.129.82 |
Macomb's population is growing for a few reasons. 1. Black flight, 2. Growing Middle Eastern population in areas like Western Sterling Heights, and 3. People moving from Oakland to Macomb due to lower taxes, more affordable housing. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 1397 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
Job losses cause flight of any color for those willing to relocate (often by necessity out of state) in order to chase after good paying jobs elsewhere (which are continually drying up in Metro Detroit). | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6846 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Is it me, or is Cleo being especially hysterical today? I happened to bump into her this morning and our conversation was a little stilted: ITSJEFF: "Oh, hi, Cleo. Did you hear about the new trends in white flight?" CLEO: "OMFG! STOP SAYING THAT! THERE'S NO SUCH THING! I'M MELTING! (high pitched shreiking.)" ITSJEFF: "Okay, bye." CLEO: "JESUS, HOW CAN YOU SAY 'BYE' TO ME? I ALREADY MOVED OUT OF MACOMB COUNTY!!! (more high pitched shreiking)" | ||
K_solomon Member Username: K_solomon Post Number: 33 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 199.178.223.4 |
^^^^^^LMAO!!! | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1972 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 134.215.223.211 |
It's and interest point that Danny and Ms. Cleo make. Why is it called "white flight" if it's just white folks, but called "middle class flight" if it's black folks moving to the suburbs? We're dealing with loaded words and terms here that have exploded in the past. Be careful! | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6847 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
I've seen the term, "black flight" used in the papers many times. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4980 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.173.62 |
Bob Actually lots of folks are moving into Oakland County even though the property tax base is high. Lots of people are moving out of Wayne County more than folks comming in. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4401 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
I assume "white flight" was originally used, because the large-scale exodus from the city during the 60's and 70's was largely tinged and tarnished with race relations, and was almost exclusively a white movement. The black migration is much more recent, but is not a singular movement as whites are still moving, as well. And seem to be only be moving to seek out greener pastures; the race compenent just isn't there, so to make the issue of race in the flight just wouldn't seem to make sense, especially considering whites are also moving. This movement out of the city is a mixed race movement, which blacks and whites moving out, as opposed to the almost exclusive white movement out of the city in the 60's and 70's. But, it's definitely an issue of semantics, and you could call it black flight, and still be correct in calling it that. It just wouldn't be the best description since it's not a singular race movement. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2781 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.105.64 |
Deja Vu!! Danny, you must really really love Dearborn??  This is your 3rd thread in 2006 based on Dearborn's population going over 100,000 (for the 2nd time in 40 years). | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 1403 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
A lot of that white flight from the 1940s through 1970s was just moving closer to the source of jobs (which also left the city) and getting a bigger house on something other than many of Detroit's tiny 30-foot lots located in much safer surroundings. Besides, the property taxes were much cheaper too. And today, there would be no Detroit city income taxes to pay either. All good reasons for reasonable folks to get the hell out of Dodge... | ||
Bob Member Username: Bob Post Number: 1142 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.42.98.224 |
Danny, you're absolutely correct, I was just clarifying the comment about Macomb Couty. OC is still having the same population gains from Wayne. | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 176 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.147 |
Why call it black or white flight? Just call it everyone moving out of a crappy city with a corrupt government trying to avoid paying high taxes for police that don't show up, teachers that don't show up and leaders who don't care. | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 255 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 66.82.9.56 |
*applause* | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 232 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44 |
Miss_cleo, what happens when black flight follows you to your new digs? | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1814 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.209.132.28 |
Lmichigan, there are probably more white folks moving into Detroit than moving out at this point. That's why the term "white flight" isn't used anymore to described migration out of Detroit. Blacks who are tired of the same things that whites were tired of regarding Detroit are moving out. They are usually middle class blacks. However, even blacks without a lot of means are moving out. Many black renters are moving into two-family flats in Grosse Pointe Park(GPP) to take advantage of the excellent public school system. However, there are more for sale signs going up as white-flight from GPP begins. I don't know for sure if it's a racial thing or the desire for a newer house with more space, but the white folks in GPP along the three or four blocks that border Detroit are leaving. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4411 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
Royce, if you believe the ACS or any recent estimates, the black percentage is still growing despite their numbers dropping in the city, meaning whites are still moving out of Detroit faster than they are coming in, and even faster still than blacks are leaving Detroit. When this will level out, I have no idea, but the bleeding hasn't stopped. | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 256 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 69.19.14.38 |
Why would I care? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4418 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
Right, why would you? Which begs the question, why do you keep posting here at DetroitYes.com? You have no interest in Detroit besides trolling on these boards. Really, if you actually don't care, why bother posting at all? Oh, that's right, because you're a classic internet troll. Why don't you try starting CharlevoixYes.com, and see how much interest you get? There, you can wax on about your utopian society, and have others enjoy that spot with you. You could glow about sunsets without powerlines, streets without blatant crime, homeless people, and trash. You could even try actually timing how fast paint dries, if you you'd like. There, you could gush to your own hearts content about how happy you are in the place that is Charlevoix, which is not only the end all/be all of Michigan culture, but the center of the known universe. Hey, whatever you need to tell yourself to help you sleep at night, right? (Message edited by lmichigan on September 13, 2006) | ||
Frenchman_in_the_d Member Username: Frenchman_in_the_d Post Number: 25 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 68.40.179.74 |
Hey all, I went through the pdf document Danny posted. I have to say that I was very surprised looking at some numbers, and this is where your expertise will be needed: I was suprised to see that the "dense" towns in the suburbs were doing not so well : note the sharp decrease of population in Royal Oak (-8%), Ferndale (-6%), a stagnation in Birmingham, but a sharp increase in places like Novi and Lyon!! The suburban cities also neighbouring Detroit are victims of the same depressing trends. Mostly exurban cities are booming. Does this show the unfortunate trend of the exurbanity of the South East MI and that the odds are all going to give Detroit an even harder time? Really, I don't think there is much hope left. It is really depressing. I'm really starting to wonder whether we will ever have a bustling, safe, packed Detroit.... The numbers show the contrary. Thanks for your insights guys.. (Message edited by Frenchman_in_the_d on September 13, 2006) | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 510 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 70.160.37.222 |
That's a pretty hypocritical statement considering that's the exact same attitude that the "gushers" here at DYES have concerning Detroit. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4419 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
Well, I'm not one of them. | ||
Trainman Member Username: Trainman Post Number: 193 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
Please support the petition to Bring SMART Back to Livonia. See the all new website and please comment because after filing my civil rights complaint, I want to change it again to get people to take me seriously. I really do want to fill the buses up and make Detroit a world class mass transit city. http://savethefueltax.org | ||
Dtown1 Member Username: Dtown1 Post Number: 143 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 70.229.255.110 |
(quote) "Meanwhile, Detroit's population continue to decrease to 866,000 people. Macomb county may surpass Detroit's population by late 2007" Just think, Detroit becoming a suburb of Warren. I thought about this not too long ago. That would get very yucky. In addition to that, I heard Warren is trying to develop a CBD. VERY YUCKY for Detroit. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4430 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
huh? Warren is a city of 130,000 or so people. More importantly, Macomb County is a large county (480 square miles of land, 89 square miles of land), with multiple municipalities, some of which don't even like each other. In no way is it comparable to a single city of 139 square miles of land, within a county. Detroit is not ever going to be a suburb of Warren or Macomb County. | ||
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch Post Number: 358 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.65.11.152 |
Compare this to Macomb County Wayne County is located in southeastern Michigan, encompassing approximately 623 square miles. It is made up of 33 cities, including the city of Detroit, 10 townships, one village and 41 public school districts. Its population of approximately 2.1 million makes it the most populous county in the State of Michigan and the eleventh most populous county in the Nation. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4432 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
Yes, a Wayne County/Macomb County comparison is much more apt, as they are both counties. Comparing a city to a county made up of multiple and often fractured municipalities is just ridiculous, and it's even more ridiculous to imply that Warren, in the forseeable future, will be the center of the region. | ||
Jenniferl Member Username: Jenniferl Post Number: 331 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 12.75.22.52 |
One important "white flight" factor that people tend to ignore is that a lot of it is intra-racial. That is, middle-class and the better-off working class whites move away from a place because they don't want to have anything to do with poor whites. Some of these whites would also move away if there were blacks, immigrants, or other minorities around. But others are OK with other racial or ethnic groups as long as they're solidly middle class and not "trashy." And now the same thing is happening with black people. Middle class blacks now have both the freedom and the means to move to the suburbs-- away from poor blacks-- and that's exactly what they're doing. Like the middle class whites, these black people want to live in an area with good schools, where people keep their houses and yards nice, where parents don't let their kids run wild, where there are coffee houses and boutiques instead of dollar stores and check cashing places, where nobody parks their truck on the front lawn, where there are mostly owner-occupied homes instead of rental property, and where you don't see rundown apartment buildings or trailer parks of any kind. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 1420 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
"...and it's even more ridiculous to imply that Warren, in the forseeable future, will be the center of the region." It's even more ridiculous to imply that Detroit will again become the center of this metroplex. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4434 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
Even more ridiculous? Are you serious? Warren doesn't have the infastructure, nor could it build it fast enough, to become the center of the region for the forseeable future. Again, are you serious? | ||
Dtown1 Member Username: Dtown1 Post Number: 144 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 70.229.255.110 |
Lmichigan, there is nothing in Detroit but vacnat homes and vacnat office buildings. Warren does at lleast have safer neighborhoods and beter schools that detroit. Its also the third largest city in Michigan, Southfield so far is the center of commerce. That shouldnt last though from here on out though. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 1422 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
I play softball in Center Line, which is essentially Warren. Warren is better than Detroit, by far, in many ways. For one, Warren has traffic--a sure sign of business activity. If I cross the street there as I can in Detroit, I'd get killed. But I surely couldn't get hired in Detroit as easily as in Warren if I needed a job... But I'm not pushing Warren, though. It's simply ludicrous to maintain that Detroit much amounts to anything outside of its governmental office buildings infrastructure. The suburbs have their government buildings too, so that's really no big deal either. I don't visit casinos--don't need that braindead waste of money. Although I like sports and I had really great second-row lower box seats in shallow left field for Comerica's first night game, I never went back. Don't need those events either. Hell, I could tolerate Warren or Center Line or Eastpointe or ... (Message edited by LivernoisYard on September 14, 2006) | ||
Bibs Member Username: Bibs Post Number: 564 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 |
My grandma was part of the white flight movement. She sold her home in Detroit, packed her bags and took a flight to Florida where she lived for 15 years. Because of the general economy, I think there will be more flight! | ||
Dtown1 Member Username: Dtown1 Post Number: 146 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 70.229.255.110 |
Basically, the only thing in dowtown Detroit before the 50' appeared to be civil places and shopping and another industrail zone, much like today with less life. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 241 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44 |
I drove through Warren's South side this morning at 9 & Van Dyke. What a dump!!! I would rather live at Outer Drive and Van Dyke than 9 & Van Dyke. The homes are much nicer at OD & VD than 9 & VD and the people are of a better class. People need to learn that the problem in Detroit is no longer a black or white issue. Now it has become a class issue. I will (and have) live in a hood where I am the only white person as long as my neighbor's have the same values as myself. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 242 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44 |
I drove through Warren's South side this morning at 9 & Van Dyke. What a dump!!! I would rather live at Outer Drive and Van Dyke than 9 & Van Dyke. The homes are much nicer at OD & VD than 9 & VD and the people are of a better class. People need to learn that the problem in Detroit is no longer a black or white issue. Now it has become a class issue. I will (and have) live in a hood where I am the only white person as long as my neighbor's have the same values as myself. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4435 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
And I'm the crazy one Livernoisyard and Dtown? lol I'm not going to aruge that Detroit is on the list of most centralized metros, but when you guys start arguing about Warren being more influential than Detroit, then, I think it's time for you two to get your heads checked, not me. Central Detroit is still the cultural center of the region. It's still has the single largest office district, and single largest concentration of office space, in the metro (Southfield and Troy, each separately in their entirely have more space, but that's spread out over 26 square miles and 33 square miles respectively in multiple center). Seriously, Detroit has fallen very far, but let's stop the hyperbole and the purposeful lies flying around. | ||
Dtown1 Member Username: Dtown1 Post Number: 147 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 70.229.255.110 |
It's not a class issue at all. HEY 72! anywhere along Outer Drive would look ritzy because its along Outer Drive. 7 Mile and Van and 8 Mile and Van Dyke is much worse that 9 mile and Van Dyke in Warren. A 17 year old boy was shot and killed right at the bus stop on 7 Mile and Van Dyke for nothing. He wasn't bothering no one. The worst part is, the BP gas owner wouldnt let the boy stay in the gas ststion until his uncle came to pick him up because of possible youthful intentions. Now come on, if you cant catch the bus just to come home without being shot in the head, then the end of our lives are near. | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 258 Registered: 05-2005 |
you bet I am proud and happy about where I live. I lived in the Detroit area for 40 years, and watched it sprial ever down ward year after year. You cant compare the quality of life between Charlevoix and Detroit. I always enjoyed what little Detroit has to offer, great resturants and museums etc...but the bad out shines the good doesnt it? Read your own topics here, gloom and doom. Crooked mayor, no police, shootings, stabbings, bad schools, un employment etc, etc....and you wonder why people leave the city? lol. Detroit needs to wake up and smell the coffee, it will NEVER be a great city cause the powers that be want to keep it right where it is: under their thumbs so they can continue with their corrupt ways. You can put down Charlevoix all you want, I know the truth. It is a beautiful peaceful spot where you can walk downtown and not feel threatened. People are friendly and helpful, no bums on the street. The schools are top notch, the police and fire dept strong. No crumbling building, no nasty vacant lots , hardly any crime, its agreat place to raise a family. I feel blessed to be able to live here.........oh and we are not here because of *white flight* as I am sure you would like to imagine. We are here because of the Auto Industry falling down around Detroits ears. My husband found a wonderful job and didnt take any cut in pay, in fact, its better up here with the insurance and all....there was nothing to keep us down near the city, nothing at all But I come here cause I still CARE about the city, the area I spent 40 years in, I keep hoping to hear new great things happening, but alas, its the same old same old isnt it? Too bad. | ||
Jfried Member Username: Jfried Post Number: 894 Registered: 11-2003 |
Danny - Where did you get the numbers showing the increases in blacks in Warren/Troy/Sterling Heights? ------------------------------ --------------Warren has gained over 9,800 blacks, Troy gained 5,000 blacks, Sterling Heights gained 4,800 blacks, Farmington Hills and Westland's black population has boomed to 14%. Eastpointe and Harper Woods would be next on the growing black population list. ------------------------------ ---------------- | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 1425 Registered: 10-2004 |
It's a no brainer that Eastpointe and Roseville have rapidly increasing black populations. And flight there is in effect. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4992 Registered: 02-2004 |
Detroitej72, For sure, The homes in Detroit's East Side around Outer Drive and Van Dyke from 7 to 8 Mile in the Nor-town district are well kept up black community for over 30 years. While the poor crappy mostly wood frame ranches in the White community on Warren on Van Dyke business corridor from 8 Mile Rd. to 9 Mile rd near the Center Line border is becomming like a instant white man's ghetto. I don't see any blacks tying to move over to those homes for they don't like the style of the neighborhood. Black folks who want to move to Warren from Detroit or someplace else tend to live in well kept up cookie cutter brick style ranch, bungalows, condos and apts and that's were they're mostly at right now. The wood frame cheap brightmooresque ranch homes along Warren's Van Dyke corridor was built from the 1920s up to the 1950s + to fullfill the demand for hungary white buyers who want to escape from Detroit's black problems and live near their manufacturing plants. I also see other ethnic folks who want to live over that area. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4993 Registered: 02-2004 |
Livernoisyard, You absolutely right, Black-folks from Detroit or anyplace else are quickly moving to those cookie cutter brick ranch and bungalows at Eastpointe neighborhoods starting from 8 Mile Rd. from border of Warren to Beaconsfield St. all the way up to 9 mile Rd, too. When black-folks get tired of the ghetto, they want to move out as soon as possible. And of course Roseville has a traditional "Africantown" community north of 10 mile Rd. from Gratiot to Kelly. Black-folks had been there since the 1920s but they haven't expanded due to restrictive covenants. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4994 Registered: 02-2004 |
Right now, Warren's black population is 7 percent, by 2010 it would be 18%. Eastpointe's black population is 5%, by 2010 it would be 16%. Detroit's black population is 82%, by 2010 it would be 76%. Now can see the black flight is happening here in now. When white-folks leave Detroit, black-folks leave, too. | ||
Dtown1 Member Username: Dtown1 Post Number: 151 Registered: 08-2006 |
Lets look at Belle Isle for rreference. Danny please say African American and Ill say European-American. Now Belle Isle was the European-American's hangout before the 70s. They would take the family out for a barbecue or some recreational activity. Now when they begun to aloow African-Americans on the island, the private European-American company that owned it didnt want any part of the African-Americans detroying the park. So after a while, European-Americans slowly migrated to parks like Chandler Park and Ballduck. then when the African-Americans started to come in and ruin the saitity in chandler Park, the European-Americans quickly migrated to parks such as Metro Beach. Up til now, the European-Americans were the only ones really going to Metro Beach. Now the European-Americans are slowly easing away from Metro Beach because the African-Americans have found out about it. I would consider Metro Park like Belle Isle jr. Now, the older generations of African-Americans stopped going to these recreational places such as Belle-Isle because the younger generations are letting the parks rot and become even more ghettoized. So Recently the older generations of African-?Americans are starting to migrate to parks such as Ballduck and Metro Park. Now, the younger generations of African-Americans are tired of the dump that hey created. So now their migrating away from places such as Belle-Isle or Chandler Park to Ballduck or Metro Park. In conclusion, European-Americans people continue to move because the African-American people are too ghettoized and run down. And of course, people dont like trashy places. So instead of cleaning their mistakes up, African-Americans go and trash other places with their ghettoized styles. So in my opinion, this is why one way flights are the way in these days, because of laziness of some people and iiresponsibilty of others, and also impatience of most. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4997 Registered: 02-2004 |
Dtown1, Not only your argument has no thesis, but also your arguments has too much stereotypes. White flight from Detroit to the suburbs is more than black-folks who want to set up their activities and later ghettotized the parks. (Message edited by danny on September 18, 2006) | ||
Dtown1 Member Username: Dtown1 Post Number: 165 Registered: 08-2006 |
I dont know if I ststed it, but it was meant to be one way to look at. My basic point is once the resources that people need to survive disappear, then eventually the poeple disappear. Most, not all of metro Detroit schools under the public school systems are very poorly run and unorganized. Police response in the immediate metro area takes longer than an average movie length, or two hours. Then when things like this start to become unbarrable, people move to have a better life. However, what the people aren't realizing is that their the problem no matter where they go. That's where my point of irresponsibility and laziness comes in. People are too lazy to take the time and look through the brick wall. As I recalled last election in the city of Detroit, the younger genereation didnt care who they were voting for. Now I feel that is lazy because your too lazy to take the time and vote for someone who can actually run the city right and is trustworthy. Overall, Mayor Kilpatrick hasnt done much. Most of the empowerment zones and developments were put together by Dennis Archer. Now how does responsibility some into play? Now when people want to move and have flights, their not taking responsibility in thinking that they are the real problems. So once those same irresponsible poeple come to a sububrb or city, they will just run the place down to the ground like they did to the place beforehand. This is what causes flights, laziness to see whats really going on and irresponsibilities to think that maybe your the problem. So I go back to one's question..... Will people be living in Lake Huron if they move any further. The way its looking, this may be possible. | ||
Dtown1 Member Username: Dtown1 Post Number: 166 Registered: 08-2006 |
I dont know if I ststed it, but it was meant to be one way to look at. My basic point is once the resources that people need to survive disappear, then eventually the poeple disappear. Most, not all of metro Detroit schools under the public school systems are very poorly run and unorganized. Police response in the immediate metro area takes longer than an average movie length, or two hours. Then when things like this start to become unbarrable, people move to have a better life. However, what the people aren't realizing is that their the problem no matter where they go. That's where my point of irresponsibility and laziness comes in. People are too lazy to take the time and look through the brick wall. As I recalled last election in the city of Detroit, the younger genereation didnt care who they were voting for. Now I feel that is lazy because your too lazy to take the time and vote for someone who can actually run the city right and is trustworthy. Overall, Mayor Kilpatrick hasnt done much. Most of the empowerment zones and developments were put together by Dennis Archer. Now how does responsibility some into play? Now when people want to move and have flights, their not taking responsibility in thinking that they are the real problems. So once those same irresponsible poeple come to a sububrb or city, they will just run the place down to the ground like they did to the place beforehand. This is what causes flights, laziness to see whats really going on and irresponsibilities to think that maybe your the problem. So I go back to one's question..... Will people be living in Lake Huron if they move any further. The way its looking, this may be possible. |
