Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 168 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 5:19 pm: | |
Can someone post pics of the Comerica Tower Construction pics? Have never seen any. |
Bussey Member Username: Bussey
Post Number: 225 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 1:13 am: | |
bump |
Rocket_city Member Username: Rocket_city
Post Number: 117 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 7:39 pm: | |
I'd be interested as well. I've only seen one or two through random Detroit photo seaches from google, but actually photos of the progress would be great! |
Patrick Member Username: Patrick
Post Number: 3593 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 8:29 pm: | |
Off topic, but I have heard that the tower was originally going to be well over 800 feet tall. Can anyone prove this? |
Jasoncw Member Username: Jasoncw
Post Number: 231 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 8:55 pm: | |
I've never heard anything like that, but it could be true I guess. But where the garage is now, there was suppose to be a second tower (One Detroit Center, and Two Detroit Center). However, there are no plans for 2 Kennedy Square. ;) |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2800 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 9:36 pm: | |
I've never heard that One Detroit Center was going to be over 800 feet tall. But John Madden (developer of 150 West Jefferson) was toying with the idea of developing a project called Firehouse Square... taking the Washington Blvd. Main Fire Station, gutting the inside, and building an office tower above it totaling 800 feet in height. |
Hardhat Member Username: Hardhat
Post Number: 176 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 9:40 pm: | |
Help me out... Are One Detroit Center and the Comerica Tower one and the same? |
7even Member Username: 7even
Post Number: 106 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 9:42 pm: | |
yes |
Jasoncw Member Username: Jasoncw
Post Number: 232 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 9:42 pm: | |
Yes, but I really don't know what I should be calling it. I've been calling it Comerica Tower. |
Track75
Member Username: Track75
Post Number: 2379 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 10:52 pm: | |
Scroll down a bit in this thread for a construction photo. https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/18968/21168.html?1080724 358 |
Jasoncw Member Username: Jasoncw
Post Number: 233 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 11:35 pm: | |
Makes me want another skyscraper. Thanks for the link. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 158 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 11:43 pm: | |
Crazy to think how long it's been since something of significant height has been added to the skyline. Something from 25-35 would be really nice in the CBD right now. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1318 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 11:48 pm: | |
well Greektowns hotel is supposed ot be 37...itll be a nice addition |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 159 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 11:53 pm: | |
That 37 includes 13 or so floors of parking, correct? |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1319 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 12:00 am: | |
correct |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4448 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 12:10 am: | |
Actually, it's just 30, now. I was told it was shortened by 2-3 floors over the summer from the last 33-32 stories (13-story parking garage, 20-story hotel, or so). |
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05
Post Number: 39 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 12:13 am: | |
i thought the hotel/garage was gonna be in the range of 30-33 floors, not 37, but i could be wrong |
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05
Post Number: 40 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 12:14 am: | |
o ok i thought that it will be in the 30 story range |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 8801 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 9:39 am: | |
Patrick, there was supposed be two towers across from each other but the recession took care of that. |
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey
Post Number: 90 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 10:29 am: | |
Comerica is building a skyscraper in Detroit? Why? |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 469 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 10:47 am: | |
You should try reading before posting. |
Bvos Member Username: Bvos
Post Number: 1991 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 10:54 am: | |
Now we know how Spacemonkey got his name... |
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 129 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 1:10 pm: | |
Comerica is building a skyscraper in Detroit? Why? I. Comerica already has a skyscraper in Detroit II. They were planning a second one, but they never did. I don't even live in Detroit so I'm guessing you're just a bad reader. |
Itsjeff
Member Username: Itsjeff
Post Number: 6878 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 1:16 pm: | |
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Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1362 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 1:21 pm: | |
LMAO |
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey
Post Number: 91 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 2:30 pm: | |
What article? |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 1613 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 3:10 pm: | |
This one: http://www.sprakaloss.se/reino lds_englich.htm |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2802 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 3:20 pm: | |
Well, maybe we should cut Spacemonkey some slack. After rereading the entire thread, folks not knowledgeable about the Comerica Tower (formerly known as One Detroit Center) may have thought that a tower was currently under construction. And also, Comerica was NOT going to build a 2nd tower. Gerald Hines, the original (and current) developer, built One Detroit Center (opened 1991) with the intention of eventually building a 2nd twin tower on the same block. But that tower was never built. Also in the early 1990's, Comerica (HQ'ed in Tower 100 of the RenCen) was interested in building an office tower on the Ford Auditorium site, to be designed by Cesar Pelli (the guy who designed Malaysia's Petronas Towers). But City Council balked at that idea, so eventually Comerica started leasing space in One Detroit Center, and eventually becoming the "signature" tenant. At some point the building name was changed from One Detroit Center to Comerica Tower. Not sure the exact date of this name change, but it happened circa 1998-2001. The 47 story Comerica Tower is Michigan's tallest office building at 620 ft. The only building taller is the 73 story RenCen's Marriott Hotel. That building is 748 ft. tall from its' lower side entrance, and 721 ft. tall from its' front main entrance. IIRC, when RenCen was first built in 1977, Manufactures Bank (later merged with Comerica) was HQ'ed in RenCen Tower 100. The 38th and 39th floors had a 2 story atrium for the executives of the company and the board room. When Comerica merged with Manufactures in the 1980's, Comerica moved from their HQ at 211 Fort St., to the RenCen Tower 100. When GM took over the RenCen in 1996, they took over the Comerica digs, and have their board room & executive offices in the former Manufacturers/Comerica plush offices. (Message edited by Gistok on September 18, 2006) |
Itsjeff
Member Username: Itsjeff
Post Number: 6880 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 3:33 pm: | |
Actually, the name in front of the building is "One Detroit Center" and tenants use "One Detroit Center" in their letterhead. I've never heard anyone refer to it as Comerica Tower. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2803 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 3:35 pm: | |
Except the media.... |
Itsjeff
Member Username: Itsjeff
Post Number: 6881 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 3:39 pm: | |
Maybe it's like the McNamara Terminal/Northwest WorldGateway... |
Jasoncw Member Username: Jasoncw
Post Number: 236 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 5:17 pm: | |
So it should be called One Detroit Center? I'll have to make sure I do that. I've heard it called Comerica Tower a lot. I think emporis lists it as comerica tower too (most would assume they list official names). |
Eric_c Member Username: Eric_c
Post Number: 846 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 5:31 pm: | |
Sorry, itsbaby, the sign above the door on Woodward says Comerica Tower plain as day. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1322 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 5:41 pm: | |
it says Comerica Tower at One Detroit Center doesnt it?? |
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch
Post Number: 371 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 5:54 pm: | |
Comerica Tower From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Comerica Tower Information Location 500 Woodward Avenue, Detroit, USA Status 1991-1993 Use office Height Antenna/Spire 188.7 m (619.0 ft) Roof 184.9 m (606.5 ft) Top floor 176.2 m (578.1 ft) Technical Details Floor count 43 (+2 underground) Floor area 155,585.5 m² (1,674,708 ft²) Architect Phillip Johnson/John Burgee SkyscraperPage.com Comerica Tower (formerly known as One Detroit Center), and officially known as Comerica Tower at Detroit Center, is a skyscraper in downtown Detroit, Michigan. Rising 619 feet (189 m), the 43-story tower is the tallest office building in Michigan, and the second tallest overall in the state behind the Detroit Marriott at the Renaissance Center, located a few blocks away. Although the Penobscot Building has more floors than Comerica Tower (45 above-ground floors compared to Comerica Tower's 43), Comerica's floors and spires are taller, with its roof sitting roughly 60 feet taller than Penobscot's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C omerica_Tower |
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit
Post Number: 796 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 6:24 pm: | |
"It now houses the world headquarters of Comerica, which has purchased its naming rights." from wiki.... |
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit
Post Number: 797 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 6:25 pm: | |
Official Comerica Tower webpage http://www.property-website.co m/sites/20/live/ |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2804 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 6:56 pm: | |
I read somewhere... that the Penobscot Building is 557 ft. tall, and to the top of the globe, it's 625 ft. tall. (But usually globes and masts/antennas do not count.) The 1991 Freep clip I have stated that One Detroit Center had 47 floors. But since then I have heard 45 and 43 floors. Must be counting mechanical floors as well. Even the Penobscot Building has been listed in Almanac's for decades as having 47 floors. So it must have shrunk in its' old age! I think that the Comerica Tower is an attractive addition to the Detroit skyline. The use of real stone is a refreshing change from the usual glass curtain walls found in modern American skyscrapers. Back when it was first announced, local architects decried that it wasn't "innovative" enough for a Johnson/Burgee design. But I think that innovative or not, the German Gothic Post Modern design has earned its' place as a nice addition to the Detroit skyline. (Message edited by Gistok on September 18, 2006) |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 161 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 7:21 pm: | |
If someone could devise a form of exterior lighting on Comerica Tower, it would quickly become the favorite building of many people. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4449 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 7:49 pm: | |
Gistok, as often happens to make tower sound taller, when property managers and such list floor counts, they usually include all floors above ground and other ground. In the case of Comerica Tower, the tower is techincally 45 floors (43 floors over ground, 2 floors underground). Most of the Detroit stuff out there on Emporis.com is some research I've done of each of these towers contacting management and seeing elevations and such. |
Jasoncw Member Username: Jasoncw
Post Number: 237 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 8:10 pm: | |
oh, so you've contributed? I know some people around here have entered some photos. Thanks to everyone who's done anything on that site. I use it a lot. Too bad some of the information is hidden, and that it's mega expensive to buy it, lol. So Comerica Tower it is. That's good because that's what I had been calling it. What was there before the tower was? |
Itsjeff
Member Username: Itsjeff
Post Number: 6885 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 11:19 pm: | |
A two story structure containing the old Greyhound station, parking deck and a Burger King. The exterior was white marble, to match the City County Building. |
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill
Post Number: 15 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 11:41 pm: | |
Just to defer to the earlier comments regarding the height of the Greektown hotel, the latest diagrams they are showing do not even look like the hotel tower is built on top of the parking structure but rather to the side of it, making the building not particularily tall, its on the back of the Crains Detroit Home issue,, does anyone know if this is just a artists rendering mistake or are they still building it atop the garage?? Thanks,, |
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill
Post Number: 16 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 11:46 pm: | |
I have to agree totally with the earlier comment that I wish somehow Comerica or whomever owns the Detroit Building could be persuaded to light the building effectively at night,,.. The spirals would be very cool,, some friends and myself were just saying that walking past it Saturday night,, I wonder who could be contacted about it, would be a great addition to the night city lighting,,, |
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05
Post Number: 41 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 11:48 pm: | |
I think the Greektown hotel/garage is about 30 floors in all, with the hotel on top of the garage. If u look at the rendering closely each row of the small windows in the hotel represents a floor, so if u start where the garage tops out at and start counting up the rows of hotel floors, u get about 17 floors. So I think its gonna be 13 garage floors, plus 17 hotels floor, making it 30 all together. Hope I didn't confuse you. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 162 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 11:51 pm: | |
Detroitbill, it would be awesome. I'm just wondering how it would be done without taking away from the visual appeal of the building. |
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill
Post Number: 17 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 12:07 am: | |
HI Detroit Star,, the building would be totally awesome for the viewer if spotlights were strategically located at the base of the roof area which begins to build upwards to each of the spirals,,, as well as another set downwards towards the remaining of the building,, Pittsburgh has a building fairly similar with Gothic peaks that they have lit this way,,but actually the Detroit tower is even a more impressive building, I wish we could figure out a way to get interest in this project, The view from all the freeways, Canada, and downtown to the building itself would be very impressive,, |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2806 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 12:27 am: | |
The Pittsburgh building you might be referring to would probably be the PPG (Pittsburgh Paint & Glass) HQ, which is also a Johnson/Burgee design. It was a modern glass version of Britain's Houses of Parliament. Johnson/Burgee also did a building in Houston with Gothic embellishments, but its' name escapes me (it had 3 identical fancy gables at different heights of the tower). |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2807 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 12:40 am: | |
Someone who is familiar with the positioning of the skyscrapers in the Financial District... go to their official webpage (that Viziondetroit just posted)... and check out the pic with the Comerica Tower and the Guardian Building in front of it... It's a "reverse negative" picture! |
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05
Post Number: 42 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 12:41 am: | |
It would be great if we could somehow get interest in the project, anyone have any ideas? |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4451 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 12:52 am: | |
Toog, Greektown's was incorrectly described from the beginning. The hotel doesn't sit on top of the garage. Though, it seems to be directly connected to the building. The hotel actually sits atops multiple levels of hotel amenities connected to the garage. I got this information of an elevation from Gamblingman. |
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05
Post Number: 43 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 12:57 am: | |
LMich, that makes sense. |
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05
Post Number: 44 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 1:00 am: | |
Well the Comerica homepage does have some email addresses on it, dont know if that would be a way to go. I think that something should be proposed however because I feel that Comerica Tower has so much potential at night, with the right lighting added it would help out skyline out much, with the casinos and other hotels in the future. |
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 212 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 3:14 am: | |
Cool seeing those construction pics. It was nice seeing the rest of the city as well. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4452 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 4:05 am: | |
BTW, for the start and completion dates, I've seen a small range, but have never been able to pin it down. Does anyone happen to know the ground breaking date, and the day the tower was officially opened, or at least the approximate months. I've heard some sources saying that it was actually finished in 92, while almost all say 93. I assume it was topped out in and mostly finished in 92, and opened in 2003. Also, in one of those old photos, you can see the tower that was torn down for the new Greektown Hotel tower. Does anyone happen to know the name of it, or when it was built, and its address? (Message edited by lmichigan on September 19, 2006) |
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05
Post Number: 45 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 11:07 am: | |
FYI, I looked on Emporis.com and it seems like they recently added a height to the Greektown hotel, and its say 314 ft. The 28-story hotel will be attached to the 13-story garage, but the hotel will sit on I'm guessing 2 stories of hotel amenities, for a total of 30 stories. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4454 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 5:54 pm: | |
Toog, I added that yesterday, but after more contact I've found that the design is still undergoing minor changes and removed it today. Remember, I'm the one updating most of the stuff for Michigan on Emporis.com |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 163 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 6:10 pm: | |
LMich, are there any recent renderings for Greektown? I know there were a couple several months back, but anything more recent? |
Dougw Member Username: Dougw
Post Number: 1339 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 6:20 pm: | |
Track75's pic on the old thread was nice enough I thought I should repost it here (for the lazy)... (photo credit to Track75) |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2815 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 8:44 pm: | |
LOL... the irony in this pic is that it also shows the apartment building and parking structure (in the left foreground) that were demo'ed for Greektown Casino Hotel/Parking. |
7even Member Username: 7even
Post Number: 113 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2006 - 11:30 am: | |
http://video.google.com/videop lay?docid=-111954244606376601& q=Getty+Images+detroit Here is a short video with cranes on the building. |
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 660 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2006 - 3:08 pm: | |
That freighter sure is going fast in that video... |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4525 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2006 - 4:18 pm: | |
Gistok, I'm not sure how ironic that is. It would be ironic if the structure and apartment building was being replaced by a surface lot or strip mall. |
Mallory Member Username: Mallory
Post Number: 73 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 12:14 pm: | |
Was that parking lot where Mr. Paul's drug store used to be? |