Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 10764 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 3:34 pm: | |
Anybody else hear Granholm state last night that if the papers came across her desk to ban smoking in all public places, she would sign it? What do the smokers think about this? DeVos on the other hand stated prior to Granholm's support of such a bill, that he would not support such a measure. He would allow the people to decide from themselves. I know the smokers I've talked to get all pissy every time a smoking ban gets brought up, so I wonder what their opinion on this is. |
Bob Member Username: Bob
Post Number: 1198 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 4:02 pm: | |
It's only a manner of time. We will probably be the last state in the union to pass a smoking ban. Also expect more and more companies to charge smokers more for health insurance. You can argue that smokers have rights, but they only go so far until they infringe on the rights of non-smokers. Also it is not fair to people who don't smoke to have to pay for the extra health-care of the morons who chose to smoke those cancer sticks. They have right to smoke them, but I should not have to pay for it. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 8019 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 4:04 pm: | |
http://www.clickondetroit.com/ news/10097162/detail.html GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. -- Grand Rapids city commissioners have voted to ban smoking in public spaces and private work sites. Smoking also won't be allowed within 10 feet of building doors, windows or ventilation ducts |
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch
Post Number: 437 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 4:11 pm: | |
you beat me to it Jt1 http://www.woodtv.com/Global/s tory.asp?S=5548878&nav=menu44_ 2 |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 997 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 4:16 pm: | |
Wonder what Amway's corporate policy is toward smoking? |
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_
Post Number: 1552 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 5:07 pm: | |
quote:Wonder what Amway's corporate policy is toward smoking?
Why does that matter? The UAW supports Smoking(as a workplace right) in the workplace and Granholm.
quote:Also it is not fair to people who don't smoke to have to pay for the extra health-care of the morons who chose to smoke those cancer sticks. They have right to smoke them, but I should not have to pay for it.
While we are lets have seperate insurance policies for each race, since each race has different diseases. Gays, Straight, motorcycle riders, police officers, women, men, etc,etc. That line is nothing but a BS excuse for the insurance companies to justify charges and more people buy it every day hook line and sinker. (Message edited by _sj_ on October 17, 2006) |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 1410 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 8:06 pm: | |
IIRC smoking is already banned in Wayne County workplaces. |
Belleislerunner Member Username: Belleislerunner
Post Number: 281 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 8:47 am: | |
"It won't apply to bars, restaurants or hotels. " Those are the main places I want it to apply. |
Wally Member Username: Wally
Post Number: 243 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 2:15 pm: | |
quote:Also it is not fair to people who don't smoke to have to pay for the extra health-care of the morons who chose to smoke those cancer sticks. They have right to smoke them, but I should not have to pay for it.
Same argument can be said for obese people who eat half their body weight every day (as bad a habit as smoking), and for people who drink too much alcohol/coffee/soda, etc, etc. Next, they'll target people who don't exercise or drink enough water every day, where do you stop? Or do you only target smokers? Sounds unfair. So I agree, lame excuse. |
Justbeamensch Member Username: Justbeamensch
Post Number: 24 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:25 pm: | |
At Amway smoking is required. |
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk
Post Number: 122 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:28 pm: | |
I'm a smoker and I'm used to people hating me. The fact that Jenny hates my puffing doesn't make me hate her. I'm used to it. I've also lived in three other cities with smoking bans: New York, Seattle and Columbus, Ohio. I have no problem going outside to puff while at a bar. Granted, during the winter it's cold. But I smoked less when I went out and didn't come home smelling like ass every night. I wouldn't go out of my way to oppose one and certainly wouldn't vote for DeVos just cuz Jenny's talking about it. My biggest beef with it is as a property-rights issue. |