  Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 62 Registered: 05-2004 |
Why (or why not) are you going to vote on Tuesday? | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 24 Registered: 11-2006 |
Yes- Granholm for Governor Amos Williams for AG and NO on all 5 proposals | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 313 Registered: 06-2006 |
Yes... Because I don't want Dick DeVos to be Governor and because I want Proposal 2 to pass... ...and because I want to help the Democrats retake the house... (Message edited by thejesus on November 04, 2006) | ||
Ventura67 Member Username: Ventura67 Post Number: 79 Registered: 12-2003 |
I'll vote, but I hope it will count! Does anyone else suspect the machines are rigged by the ruling class (republicans)? Maybe not around here so much but in enough places to control politics at the national level. | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 1078 Registered: 12-2004 |
I'll vote, so the Republicans get enough votes to continue rigging the machines, just to upset Ventura67. Proposals: 1-no 2-yes 3-yes 4-no 5-no | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 77 Registered: 07-2006 |
yes, straight democrat, no x 5 cause i don't like the republicans any more (i'm a former republican), and have strong feelings on the proposals, and i fear some will pass that i really don't feel should. edited cause i realized it sounded too much like a soapbox. sorry. (Message edited by scottr on November 04, 2006) (Message edited by scottr on November 04, 2006) | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 895 Registered: 01-2005 |
I plan to vote. By secret ballot. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 928 Registered: 12-2005 |
For me, voting is like a bad habit I have not yet, nor will likely ever, overcome.  Seriously, I habitually vote after thoroughly studying every possible perspective available. It seems to be from some innate drive. It's an enigma to me why I bother, but I do. Arizona (or at least Maricopa county) publishes a thick booklet long before each election. It exhaustively explains all the issues in a surprisingly strict multipartisan, unbiased way. I wish Michigan would provide that resource for serious voters. The closest resources to that I've found in Michigan are http://www5.vgt2004.org/a-mi-g annett/ and http://publius.org/ but they're still lacking in detail. I too have doubts that my vote will count but if it doesn't, it won't be because I didn't vote conscientiously! | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 2196 Registered: 02-2005 |
How could anyone vote no on 4? I voted in the primary but have failed to get my absentee ballot for this one. Devos and Bouchard are terrible candidates, but Granholm and Stabenow have terrible records. Michigan is screwed for a good while now regardless of who wins. | ||
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill Post Number: 78 Registered: 09-2006 |
yes,,, Democrat,,because I don' want Evangelicals telling me how to live,, and a certain no to blowing doves brains apart to help hunters feel like real men and women. I wish the doves could reverse it and see how the hunters would like it. Now Kirk Gibson is on the radio saying that these "extremist groups "( the ones trying to protect the doves) are out to ban hunting in Michigan altogether,,,,oh geez what next... | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 78 Registered: 07-2006 |
mackinaw, i am strongly against proposal 4. I feel the greater good must be balanced against property owners rights. this proposal puts all the power on one side. i will admit the power has in the past been abused, but this is not the answer. and i don't like the idea that some owner of a parking lot in downtown detroit could kill a great project (say a headquarters building for a large company that will provide tangible and intangible benefits to the city, but is still a private development) all because he's holding out for far more than it will ever be worth. greed should not take precedence over the greater good. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4645 Registered: 10-2003 |
Yes, and no on all 5 proposals out of principle. | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 303 Registered: 01-2006 |
I have not received my voter registration paperwork from the S.o.S since moving to Detroit. I filled out the paperwork when I changed my address, and I've got a paper thing that said I registered to vote, but they said 6 weeks ago I would receive something in the mail. {confused} What office would I call Monday to verify that I am indeed registered? | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 933 Registered: 12-2005 |
Detroitstar, go here to determine whether you're registered: https://www.mcgi.state.mi.us/m ivote/voterSearch.aspx | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 304 Registered: 01-2006 |
Thanks a bunch Jimaz! | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 934 Registered: 12-2005 |
Damn, that was quick. Democracy in action! (Message edited by Jimaz on November 05, 2006) | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 404 Registered: 05-2006 |
America. All branch's of our government are controlled by republicans. Do you think George Washington would approve of this? Ask yourself, have we captured, or killed Osama?This Tuesday, when you vote, think with your brain. Detroitej72 | ||
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox Post Number: 62 Registered: 04-2006 |
I'm surprised how many people on this thread are against Prop. 4, given the havoc eminent domain abuse has wrought on Detroit in particular. Eminent domain, while a good idea in principle, is abused so often by the collusion of government and corporate interests that it desperately needs to be checked. | ||
Salvadordelmundo Member Username: Salvadordelmundo Post Number: 54 Registered: 04-2006 |
I plan to vote straight Libertarian, except that I support Amos Williams for AG. Granholm and DeVos are worthless. There's no 'there' there. I plan to vote to allow dove hunting, for the simple reason that there's no reason to ban dove hunting while permitting other types. Doves aren't endangered. Banning the dove hunt while allowing everything else makes the state look like a bunch of over-emotional idiots. Besides, nearly every state in the union allows dove hunting. I also support prop. 4. Eminent domain has been abused too much to entrust it so readily to government. The measure doesn't make ED impossible, it just sets up more checks against abuse. | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 104 Registered: 05-2006 |
While I sympathize with your Libertarian views, by voting for Libertarians, Greens or most other independents you are simply playing into the hands of the Republicans. Remember, we can all thank Ralph Nader for the Bush Presidency. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4647 Registered: 10-2003 |
People say this in every election, though. If not to vote for a third party, now, when is it ever safe? I used to be one of those complainers, but I think it's unfair to marginalize third party voters in EVERY election just because all of us believe that the next election is "too important to throw ones vote away." If not in 2006, in 2008? | ||
Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986 Post Number: 173 Registered: 01-2004 |
I have already voted for Granholm (overseas ballot) and voted: 1. No 2. Yes 3. No 4. No 5. No | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 621 Registered: 11-2005 |
Another voter info. site: http://www.vote411.org/ | ||
Karl Member Username: Karl Post Number: 4840 Registered: 09-2005 |
Ramcharger, using your logic, we can thank Ross Perot for Bill Clinton. | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 645 Registered: 10-2003 |
Remember the rules have changed this year: Republicans vote on Tuesday. Democrats vote on Wednesday. | ||
Yvette248 Member Username: Yvette248 Post Number: 62 Registered: 10-2006 |
I'm voting Democrat across the board. I "may" cross over for AG though. Not sure about Levin (part 3) either. No on all proposals. | ||
Justbeamensch Member Username: Justbeamensch Post Number: 27 Registered: 07-2006 |
No difference? That's an ignorant statement. Anyone informed about issues, no matter how cynical, knows that there is a huge difference between candidates. People who said no difference between Blanchard and Engler can enjoy the legacy that fat John has left us. It might feel good to say it, but it ain't true. Get off your ass and vote. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4654 Registered: 10-2003 |
Yvette, PLEASE don't switch over for AG. Amos Williams is the best candidate for AG we've seen in quite some time (even better than Granholm, in fact, ranking up there with Frank Kelly). He is certainly a better candidate than Cox. It's unfortunate he'll lose to incumbancy, but maybe he'll be able to put a better campaign together in the next race. | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 27 Registered: 11-2006 |
I agree, Amos Williams is certainly worthy of your vote. An upstanding citizen with a great record. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 942 Registered: 12-2005 |
Irish_mafia, that's untrue and you know it. Please muster just a little bit of respect for your country's elections, if that's at all possible for you. Wouldn't you rather delete that post? | ||
Innovator Member Username: Innovator Post Number: 36 Registered: 07-2006 |
I do thank Ross Perot for Bill Clinton. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4656 Registered: 10-2003 |
Jimaz, don't even bother wasting your breath on that. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 946 Registered: 12-2005 |
Well, crap. It's a blatant attempt to fraudulently influence an election. Even if it's only intended as a joke, someone needed to call him out. So I did. All Americans vote on Tuesday, regardless of party. Don't be fooled. (Message edited by Jimaz on November 05, 2006) | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 793 Registered: 11-2003 |
I am voting. 1 - Yes 2 - No 3 - No 4 - Yes 5 - Yes | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4658 Registered: 10-2003 |
Jimaz, if you think anyone on this board doesn't know the date of the election than you're underestimating us. Take one step back for just one moment, please. | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 28 Registered: 11-2006 |
Lmichigan, DYessers arent as intelligent as youd like to think. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 948 Registered: 12-2005 |
DYessers won't let deception go unchallenged. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 3234 Registered: 10-2003 |
LATE BREAKING NEWS! Well it just came out on the 11 PM news. Those Republicans who control the State Legislature have flip-flopped again. They have jammed through a last minute unfair election law on Michigan hoping it would go unnoticed. Now Democrats are only allowed to vote on Tuesday. Republicans are only allowed to vote on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday! How is that fair?? Three days to one! That is why the Republican majority needs to be removed in Lansing! | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 949 Registered: 12-2005 |
Aw, crap. Everyone vote on Tuesday, November 7, and let's be done with it.  | ||
Yvette248 Member Username: Yvette248 Post Number: 72 Registered: 10-2006 |
Okay, okay, guys. I haven't heard anything about Cox to make me vote against him, but I would be willing to give Amos a shot. I just don't know anything about the guy (I've been ignoring campaign ads for the last 2 weeks.) | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 29 Registered: 11-2006 |
Amos williams, of Detroit. Former Detroit Police Officer Vietnam War Veteran Trial Lawyer Democrat Something to vote against Cox on: moral issues; cheated on wife. | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 131 Registered: 11-2005 |
^^ but I thought having a mistress was the whole point to getting married. I plan on voting as long as the Republicans at my polling place let me. I work at 4:30 p.m. Tuesday and vote in Detroit. Think if I hit the polls at 8 a.m. that I'll be able to get to work on time? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4659 Registered: 10-2003 |
That, and that Williams is just a far more capable leader for our state's Attorney General office. lol Forget Cox's whole affair, he just doesn't stack up to Williams. It's funny how little attention we give the other elected state offices that have huge and direct impacts on our lives (Attorney General and Secretary of State). | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 136 Registered: 11-2005 |
Lmichigan, I would not vote for a candidate based on whom they choose to sleep with. I'd vote for Clinton after his affair. I'll vote for Cox after his. I'd love to have a Democrat as A.G. again, but I want to have a qualified man or woman in that office more. And I also think it'd do our state good to have some diversity when it comes to statewide offices (isn't Richard Austin our ONLY minority statewide office holder?), but when it comes to a position this important... Too bad Butch had to fool around with that hooker. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4660 Registered: 10-2003 |
Huh? I was joking, thus the "lol." I don't judge Cox on his affair anymore than I did Clinton. And, who said anything about diversity? Williams is the better of the two candidates, IMO. Really, where did that come from? | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 138 Registered: 11-2005 |
Sorry, e-sarcasm's hard to pick up on. | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 107 Registered: 05-2006 |
Not to belabor the issue, but here’s an interesting article on the effect of minor-party candidates on Michigan politics. Minor-party candidates may play big election role | ||
Angry_dad Member Username: Angry_dad Post Number: 118 Registered: 02-2006 |
You bet I'm gonna vote and I don't give a crap about which party as long as I vote for somebody that represents the people and has common sense. In other words, I'm voting for Bouchard because Stabenow is useless, Creswell because the frick and frack twins spent more money bitching about each other than setting goals and Perles for MSU because he will hire a good coach. And yes because that worthless Stabenow is going to win and disappear for the next 5 1/2 years I still get to laugh at her when she poses next to another "Dangerously Incompetent" sign. | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 2054 Registered: 12-2004 |
I'd be remiss if I didn't comment on this exchange:
and:
I think it's a much better choice to vote for a third-party candidate further down the ballot than at the very top of the ticket (state rep. and so on). It serves as a warning to the major party candidates that they're screwing up, gives Greens & Libertarians something to build on and doesn't improve the odds that DeVil will become our next governor. Oh, and if anyone wants to know who I'm voting for, my choices are all on-line: http://warrendale.blogspot.com /2006/11/endorsements-from-war rendale-blog.html | ||
Dannaroo Member Username: Dannaroo Post Number: 18 Registered: 05-2006 |
I'll be voting simply to cancel out my dad's vote | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 627 Registered: 11-2005 |
I was fifth in line at my precinct and the first to get my vote counted. | ||
Hit24sqft Member Username: Hit24sqft Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2006 |
If voting were effective, it would have been banned by the government long ago | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 962 Registered: 12-2005 |
FBI Investigating Va. Voter Calls |
