  Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 879 Registered: 01-2004 |
The Hotel opening date is moved from January 2008 to September 2008. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20061114/NEW S99/61114028 | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 320 Registered: 01-2006 |
I noticed this morning they took the privacy screen off the fence, so now the entire site can be seen. Any particular reason why this was done? I'm dying to see some steel go up. I think this is going to dramatically alter the skyline, especially when viewed from Belle Isle. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 3078 Registered: 08-2004 |
With the state playing hardball with Greektown Casino, and with City Council no longer having a lovefest over them, it looks like Greektown Casino has a tough road ahead... I bet Don Barden is drooling at the prospect of purchasing them if they end up not being able to meet their obligations. But on the otherhand, he thought they were nuts to build where they're building.... | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4699 Registered: 10-2003 |
Greektown just keeps getting punched over and over. They always seem to be playing catch-up, which is understandable considering the wealth of the ownership of the other two. I'm confused, though, does this mean construction is currently on hold? Why would this much threaten the construction of the hotel/parking garage? | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 323 Registered: 01-2006 |
There was plenty of construction going on over there today, I'm pretty sure construction is still moving along. | ||
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05 Post Number: 61 Registered: 03-2006 |
Construction has to be going on in order to meet the September 2008 deadline that they have. Essentially it takes about 2 years from groundbreaking to opening for the casinos, seeing that mgm grand and motorcity started in the winter of 2005/2006 and they both plan to open by the late fall of 2007. | ||
Cellus Member Username: Cellus Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2006 |
does MGM have any plans for their temporary casino after the permanent one is finished? | ||
Cabasse Member Username: Cabasse Post Number: 25 Registered: 01-2006 |
^"tear that schitt down!" no, really. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 3081 Registered: 08-2004 |
Cellus, nothing has been announced about their temporary site. But it would be a shame to tear down a formerly ugly IRS building that has had $220 million sunk into it and has made it more attractive. I've always thought the building would make a great "Magic Johnson Movie Complex", with little exterior alterations. | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 120 Registered: 05-2006 |
Greektown asks gaming board for time to hit goals It’s always one excuse after another with these people. I, for one, think Detroit and Greektown Casino would be better off without the indians. Gistok, that is a great idea. The site definitely has enough parking. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 5193 Registered: 02-2004 |
The more "THEY" push back construction for any building project, the more lawsuits would come and the more money "THEY" lose. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4704 Registered: 10-2003 |
Ram, why does them being Native Americans have anything to do with this? Why'd you feel the need to bring that up, at all? | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 125 Registered: 05-2006 |
They are the ones who keep bringing it up. They seem to think that they deserve special consideration.
Greektown Casino is a business, not a charity or a social welfare organization, and it should be run as such. The city would be better off with a casino owner that has sufficient capital to build a competitive facility, fulfill their financial obligations and keep the promises that were made when they were granted a license. (Message edited by Ramcharger on November 15, 2006) | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 2077 Registered: 10-2003 |
The Greektown Casino really pushed the envelope with their existing temporary casino on the zoning and building codes. The Planning Commission would always mention the Greektown Casino as an example of how not to do signage and how not to go through the proper city procedures. I think this time around the Planning Commission and Planning & Development Dept. are standing firm and making Greektown do it by the book instead of expecting special status because they are a casino. I highly doubt the City is responsible for delays in the Greektown Casino. More than likely it's Greektown Casino's reluctance to abide by the zoning code and go through the proper hearings that's causing the delays. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4706 Registered: 10-2003 |
Yeah, the excuse that the city is slowing down construction is a bogus one, at best. At the same time, it seems it's the financing (again) and not any zoning issues that has been slowing down development of this permanent casino, hotel, and parking garage. BTW, Gamblingman, are you going to get back to me? | ||
Keystone Member Username: Keystone Post Number: 232 Registered: 10-2003 |
Bvos, Of the three casinos, the Planning Commission consistently touts Greektown as the ONLY casino that has stuck to the initial concept of an integrated casino within the City. Not sure where you get your information as I've heard nothing but positive comments from Planning Commish, P&DD, and most Councilmembers. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1934 Registered: 07-2004 |
Instead of starting a new thread just to mention the following information, I thought I'd just mention it here. The new valet parking garage on Beaubien and Fort is now open to the public for self-parking. I wonder what happpened to just using the garage for valet parking? | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2006 |
What is going to happen with the land which Greektown supposedly was going to build on near Gratiot? Is that land surface parking now? | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 19 Registered: 11-2006 |
A little off topic, but when is the estimated completion date for the MGM Grand? Is it around 09/07? | ||
Flybydon Member Username: Flybydon Post Number: 58 Registered: 01-2005 |
GreekTown Casino Construction Progress as of 11-28-2006  | ||
Reetz12 Member Username: Reetz12 Post Number: 106 Registered: 09-2005 |
Greektown converted their new valet garage into a public space, because they were able to get a year lease on blue cross blue shields old parking structure for valet and employees. | ||
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05 Post Number: 67 Registered: 03-2006 |
For MGM, I have heard they are trying to get done by October/November of next year, but MGM website says late 2007, so I guess we can safely say by the end of the next year, it should be completed. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1937 Registered: 07-2004 |
That's great for the Greektown Casino, but that means we have to look at that hideous and outdated parking structure for another year. I was looking forward to that sucker coming down in '07. Well, I'll just have to wait. | ||
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill Post Number: 104 Registered: 09-2006 |
Does anyone know what the final height of the Greektown Casino hotel will be ? I have seen everything from 18 to 34 stories. My place is on the 24th floor of a building that looks at the area at a side angle,,,Its hard to tell what its going to look like presently.. | ||
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05 Post Number: 68 Registered: 03-2006 |
The last thing I heard was 30 stories, about 315 feet. | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 4315 Registered: 10-2003 |
http://www.detnews.com/2005/ca sinonews/0509/13/A01-313101.ht m | ||
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill Post Number: 106 Registered: 09-2006 |
Thanks Jams. I have heard many other versions on the hotel since this article was posted,,,A fellow I know working on the site now was told it was going to be 28 floors ,, Was hoping it would be bigger than 15 , it seems they do not even know. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1939 Registered: 07-2004 |
Jams, that's an old plan. Greektown has since redesigned their hotel. Intially, talk said it would be 33 stories high. | ||
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport Post Number: 183 Registered: 11-2005 |
That is an old article. That is the wrong plan. The new plan came out in February 2006 that is a 13-story parking garage and on top is a 20-story hotel tower. | ||
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05 Post Number: 69 Registered: 03-2006 |
Jams, that is real old, many revisions have been up since then. | ||
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill Post Number: 108 Registered: 09-2006 |
Hence my confusion on this,, and my earlier query The February/06 plan has been scuttled also as its too costly to build on top of a garage I am told for plumbing etc,,,, my Friend working on it said its a side by side plan,, its just nobody seems to know how high its going... oh well .. just wondered if anyone had any RECENT news, ( like in the past month). I dont think anyone knows,,, or I hope the contractor does.. Thanks | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 150 Registered: 05-2006 |
And they didn’t know this in February because…? Greektown is always trying to pinch the penny. When have you ever heard of a casino company being afraid to spend a buck to make a buck? Construction should be put on hold and the Michigan Gaming Commission should follow through on its threat to force the sale of Greektown Casino. Maybe a company like Harrah's Entertainment or Hilton Hotels will buy it. At least they would have the money to do it right. | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 4319 Registered: 10-2003 |
Sorry, it was just a quick GOOGLE. I had to go grocery shopping. One of the greatest discoveries I've made about the internet, if you have a question about something, a few moments of research will answer many questions. Right now, my house smells wonderful as that pot of Hungarian chicken soup is simmering atop my stove. Despite my collection of cookbooks, I decided to pull up a recipe to try. If it tastes as good as it smells, I've another reason to appreciate an incredible resource sitting on my desk. Enjoy the resource, but learn to use it for the answers you seek. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4789 Registered: 10-2003 |
The current plans (as of August) call for a 30-story hotel tower attached directly to a 13-story parking garage. It will be anywhere from 300-330 feet tall, but the plans keep going through fine refinements that seem to make it shorter each time. This is all according to Gamblingman, and the August Detroit Planning Commission minutes which are readily available on their website. | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 152 Registered: 05-2006 |
New casinos take shape With Greektown’s expanded facilities opening a year behind the other two, they should be able to evaluate the competition’s product and tweak their own design to avoid mistakes made by their cross town rivals. But, I doubt they’ll utilize this advantage. Heaven forbid they spend anymore money then they have to. |
