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Jelk
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 1:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Official website for the re-development of Arsenal Stadium in London…http://www.thestadium-highbury .com/stadium_main.htm

I point this out in the Discuss Detroit thread because the concept in similar the Tiger Stadium re-development project.

It's kind of cool to think about this...in the near future when people talk about successful re-development of former pro sports stadiums, they will be talking about London and Detroit.

It will be nice for Detroit to be a leader and innovator in urban revitalization rather than a follower, for a change.
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Bussey
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 1:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think this link has been posted previously but I forget what the name of the thread was.....


anyone, anyone, Bueller, Bueller
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Buddyinrichmond
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 1:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is Ndavies on vacation?
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Ndavies
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 1:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope, I have no issues with people repeating posts 6 months old. I only have an issue when someone duplicates a currently active thread.

It was posted in a march Tiger Stadium thread.
https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/62684/68288.html
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Jelk
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 2:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ndavies is good people.
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Supersport
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 2:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awesome link Jelk. As for Ndavies, yeah, he's alright. Never seen a street fighter on par with him, he's got cat-like reflexes.
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Aiw
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 5:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Two major differences:

1. Tiger Stadium looks like shit from the outside, and for the most part lacks any character.

2. Highbury is comprised of 4 separate structures, each one making up one set of stands, north, south, east and west. The main road frontage is the East stand. It is a very pleasing art deco building with offices, dressing rooms, and seats off the rear. The layout is somewhat different from TS. Also, Highbury is tightly integrated into a very stable and dense urban environment. The demand for housing units in an area with no free land, makes sense.

While Jelk is on to something, and it is an innovative idea, the two projects are very different. I can say having been to both structures, Highbury blows away TS.

Here are some photos from September 2005.

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Note how close the stadium is to the existing housing.

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Jelk
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 6:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cool pictures, AIW. But the point is that both London and Detroit are committed to re-developing old stadiums.

Much better then the fate of Crosley Field...
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Aiw
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 7:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or Ebbets Field or Forbes Field, etc...

You are right that stadium reuse is an untapped market, especially since it contains instant green space.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 9:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Other terrible examples are League Park in Cleveland, Sportsmans Park in St. Louis, Memorial Stadium, Baltimore, Polo Grounds, New York, Ebbetts Field, Brooklyn, Old Comiskey Park, Chicago, the old ballpark in KC, Vaughn Street Park, Portland, Oregon, Shibe Park, Phila., Forbes Field, Pittsburgh, Braves Field in Boston.

All of the above are terrible examples of collective forgetting about baseball history.

jjaba, Fan.
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Jelk
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 10:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jjaba is right. The fate of obsolete sports stadiums is with a doubt the single greatest planning failure in recent history. Grain silos on the flipping prairie have become condos, stadiums become parking lots. It's a waste. I trust the city will keep its word and make Tiger Stadium's re-development a reality.

BTW...converting grain silos is a different ball of wax than converting toxic cement silos into lofts. Love Cannel: Detroit Style.

Tiger Stadium on the other hand is a can't miss project.
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Supersport
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Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 12:24 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hear there is a great demand for abandoned missile silos these days as well. Even been featured on HGTV...so I've been told.
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Focusonthed
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Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 10:55 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those first two exterior shots of Highbury look a lot like Wrigley or Fenway.
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Rustic
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Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What about Joe Louis Arena?
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Jelk
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Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 11:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What about it?
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Rustic
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Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 12:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm just sayin' ..
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Charlottepaul
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http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/b u/?id=crowneplazaquakersquare- akron-oh-usa

Akron, Ohio converted some grain silos into a Crowne Plaza Hotel. If Ohio can do that conversion, I think that we can one up them with Tiger Stadium.

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