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Tarkus
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This thread is inspired by Lowells' In Search of Community thread. At what point do you think that what all these suburbanites are looking for is the "Detroit" of their past? And once realized they will hopefully reinhabit the neighborhoods with their unique quirky buildings.
Has any major metro area in history contracted and been "reborn" to the extent Detroit needs to and could with the urban acres available throughout within the City limits.
I hope this didn't ramble to much, probably to much coffee.
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Livernoisyard
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why rebuild in the city and have your places ransacked when you go to work or shopping? Too many city residents are forced to stay near home for that reason as it is. Newer houses smell of money, and their allure is just too much to resist for the city's criminals.

With its present crime and ineffective and corrupt city management, why commit hundreds of thousands in housing just to have to live in your own prisons that you built and paid for?

It's more likely that suburbanites will just depart SE Michigan chasing jobs than in moving into the city. Most of them by now have never lived within Detroit anyway, so those Detroit stories are probably a couple generations old and have little relevance to a younger set.
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Andylinn
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 9:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

keep in mind that suburban sprawl in this form is a problem unique to England and its former colonies... (England, USA, Australia, Canada... )
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Mikeg
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

At what point do you think that what all these suburbanites are looking for is the "Detroit" of their past?




Most suburbanites have no "Detroit" in their past.

In 1930 there were 500,000 people living outside the City of Detroit in Wayne, Oakland and Macomb Counties. By 1940, 653,000 folks lived in those areas and by 1950, the number had grown to 1,077,000. This population growth did not come at the expense of the City of Detroit, which continued to grow during this same time frame. However, the population growth rate in these areas has been greater than the City of Detroit's ever since 1930.
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56packman
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Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 7:13 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tarkus-the suburbanites will not place a higher value on their past (perceived or real) than they do on their own personal safety or the sanctity of their property, or the education of their children. Look up "Gentrification".
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Pam
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Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 7:14 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Even suburbanites that do have a Detroit past might not want to move back. I've got family members born and raised in Detroit who aren't even interested in visiting the city, let alone moving back.
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Pagesix1536
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Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 7:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can second that...relatives with very rich histories in Detroit, with Stroh's and the motor companies, that won't go anywhere near the city anymore.

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