Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 3413 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 11:46 pm: | |
Today I was driving an out-of-town friend about on a cheerlessly gray day and here are some pictures. Edmond Place in Brush Park MGM Hotel topped off Shall we start a forum pool on when this Brush Park beauty will fall? Did this picture fit the the day, or what? Detroit Rises and Detroit Falls? |
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710
Post Number: 76 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:08 am: | |
Lowell, great pics! Which street is that Brush Park house on...that one really looks like it's about ready to go. If only someone would come along and save it. |
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua
Post Number: 974 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:24 am: | |
I've seen that building with my own eyes Cman, I'm sure it's beyond saving. |
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 3417 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:42 am: | |
The crumbling house is on Eliot. |
Gsgeorge Member Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 41 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 2:55 am: | |
that house is one of the most depressing sights in all of Brush Park...every time I'm there it's in worse condition. I predict the winter will hit it hard, possibly causing the front to collapse. |
Renf Member Username: Renf
Post Number: 45 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 8:59 am: | |
That crumbling home on Eliot is the William Livingstone residence. It has been in this condition for several years. http://www.detroit1701.org/Liv ingstone%20Mansion.html |
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710
Post Number: 78 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 9:26 am: | |
You are probably right. It probably is beyond saving. What a shame... |
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 3418 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 9:27 am: | |
Thanks for that link to the Livingstone house and the great descriptive article your wrote on your website, Ren. It was interesting that to learn that the young Kahn designed that house and that it was once moved. I wonder if the effects of the move may have been one of the causes of its eventual crumbling. Later on, of course, Kahn would have designed and built his own house at John R and Mack; so they would have been very close-by neighbors before the Livingstone house was jacked up and moved. Your website has evolved a lot since I last visited and I recommend all to visit it. Since you 'out' yourself there may I also take note that Ren is the lead author of the outstanding and renowned "Detroit Divided. A Volume in the Multi-City Study of Urban Inequality" a work that appears regularly on must-read Detroit book threads on this forum. |
Detroitrulez Member Username: Detroitrulez
Post Number: 59 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 9:31 am: | |
great photos lowell! While some of Detroit regrettably falls, much much more is rising. These photos are certainly proof of that.As we allknow, you can't save them all. |
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710
Post Number: 79 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 9:33 am: | |
Is this the Livingston House? It looks like it, but sometimes with these views, it's hard to be certain. http://local.live.com/default. aspx?v=2&cp=r1r55y82bywp&style =o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1 000&scene=5646187 |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 93 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:03 pm: | |
Nothing says cheesy sales approach then those multicolor flags everywhere on that Edmund Place home. That "bishops hat" roof was poorly treated with mere asphalt singles and ridge cap. I'd hate to see the inside. |
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj
Post Number: 216 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:08 pm: | |
Can we see the renovations you have done in the city Buddyinrichmond? I would like to see your contributions. |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 95 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:19 pm: | |
No way. I am not showing mine unless you show me yours first. |
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj
Post Number: 217 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:25 pm: | |
We are working on it right now. Actual demo & construction should start this winter. |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 96 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:29 pm: | |
Pics? |
Llyn
Member Username: Llyn
Post Number: 1751 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:46 pm: | |
quote:We are working on it right now. Actual demo & construction should start this winter.
...on what? Inquiring minds want... oh you know... |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1800 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:52 pm: | |
Yes, cman710, that house in the aerial view is the Livingston House, affectionately called "Slumpy" by us Forumers. This view must be from sometime in 2005, judging from the status of known developments in the area. Cheers! |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 975 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 12:58 pm: | |
The wife's great-grandparents are buried just next to that tree in the photo; he in 1906. His marker sure could tell stories, I suppose. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 227 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 1:38 pm: | |
I've seen that house. I've also seen others in that area that looked just as bad but were being restored. |
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710
Post Number: 85 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 3:08 pm: | |
Hi Kathleen, Thanks for the confirmation. If I come to Detroit again (which I would love to do soon, but don't have any specific date when I'll be able to), I'd definitely love to check out Brush Park in a little bit more detail than last time. I didn't realize how much the area would interest me! |
Bussey Member Username: Bussey
Post Number: 427 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 4:06 pm: | |
Edmund Place look a little shabby Buddy... See the sign in the front yard. It says Detroit Urban Living. This explains everything. |
Eric Member Username: Eric
Post Number: 637 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 4:52 pm: | |
What exactly do you have against Detroit Urban Living? |
Rsa Member Username: Rsa
Post Number: 981 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 5:00 pm: | |
oh shut up you pessimistic armchair developers. renevatio has done a great job developing and the monahan company has done a meticulous job restoring/renovating edmund place. everyone's entitled to their own opinion but complaining about something you haven't even seen helps nobody and nothing. |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 97 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 5:25 pm: | |
No man, you shut up. |
Bussey Member Username: Bussey
Post Number: 428 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 5:32 pm: | |
You ask why I loathe Detroit Urban Living? Let me count the ways.... Selling property that was never purchased from the city. Never installing a water meter covering eight units. Tying electrical lines from an unfinished unit to an occupied one and also running common wires to an individual's personal circuit. Promising NEZ and never obtaining. Owning an unsold condo and never paying association dues. Failing to resurface and reroof a 20x10 exterior hanging porch that is a part of the existing floor system of a building. Failing to seal up parapets allowing moisture to breach through the wall and travel down three floors dripping through window frames. Leaving a deteriorating 80 year old brick wall as is. Doing all of this while under the guise of "Renovation Savior" Detroit Urban Living didn't get to be as large as they are now without screwing over a few along the way. |
Rsa Member Username: Rsa
Post Number: 982 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 5:42 pm: | |
just as clarification, detroit urban living is only acting as the selling agent not as owner, developer, or renovation contractor. those are, respectively, renevatio and the monahan company. |
Bussey Member Username: Bussey
Post Number: 429 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 6:58 pm: | |
Well then I stand corrected. Thanks |
Dhugger Member Username: Dhugger
Post Number: 122 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 9:32 pm: | |
Beautiful site Renf: http://www.detroit1701.org/ I will pick up the book: "Detroit Divided. A Volume in the Multi-City Study of Urban Inequality" Any other reading suggestions? |