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Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1122
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 9:05 pm: |    |
I want to keep a nice, polite, quiet site to discuss issues about Detroit at. PLEASE, don't disrespect people like Lowell and post Bias threads that may offend others, as it only creates Child's Play and makes Lowell and his site look bad overall. |
Mayor_sekou
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Username: Mayor_sekou
Post Number: 818
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 9:07 pm: | |
I think you should put this in the Non Detroit section too. |
Urbanize
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Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1123
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 9:10 pm: | |
True Mayor-Sekou, but the issue that I'm speaking of is in this section and I wanted to point it out to all the people associated in the rudeness. |
Belleislerunner
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Username: Belleislerunner
Post Number: 296
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 9:11 pm: | |
Let the one without sin cast the first stone...
Urbanize
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Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1115
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 7:45 pm:
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Don't forget "Dangerous Asian Man of the Week" and let's definitely not leave out the "Dangerous Arab Man of the Week". |
Urbanize
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Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1125
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 9:13 pm: | |
Belleislerunner, it was a bit of a sarcasm statement before I realized what the thread was all about. Now I do apologize for that statement. That will be my last bias remark on the site. Could other folks do the same please? |
Ray1936
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Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 1414
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 9:21 pm: | |
Speak softly and carry a thick skin, or something like that. With apologies to Teddy Roosevelt. |
Fortress_warren
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Username: Fortress_warren
Post Number: 302
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:19 pm: | |
Lowell's a commie. |
Urbanize
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Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1130
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:24 pm: | |
What's a commie? |
Burnsie
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Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 972
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:29 pm: | |
You seriously don't know what "commie" means? It's slang for a communist. |
Burnsie
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Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 973
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:33 pm: | |
By the way, Urbanize, with 1130 posts in 3 months, you may want to consider taking a break from this site for a few days. Rude posts on a discussion board are pretty trivial in the big picture of life. And as long as people can post more or less anonymously, it won't change. |
Livernoisyard
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Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3132
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:36 pm: | |
Can't we all get along? |
Bearinabox
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Username: Bearinabox
Post Number: 185
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:36 pm: | |
Fortress_warren is an evil capitalist oppressor. |
Urbanize
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Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1133
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:41 pm: | |
You're right Burnsie. Please though, I wish folks could be a bit more civil and Adult when discussing certain issues. |
Bulletmagnet
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Username: Bulletmagnet
Post Number: 427
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:42 pm: | |
But I like Urbanize, even if he(?) does posts poopy stuff. Take me for example - I'm an angel... |
Burnsie
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Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 974
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:44 pm: | |
I wish that too, Urbanize. Sometimes I get frustrated by some post on here. But then I just shrug and remind myself that inane, thoughtless, and dumb comments are par for the course on discussion boards. |
Ravine
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Username: Ravine
Post Number: 879
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:45 pm: | |
Urbanize and Livernoisyard: No, nope, nah, hell no. A big part of this forum's lasting and indelible charm is the startling quickness with which we jump up to the happy task of taking self-righteous offense and ramming our indignance up the ass of The (perceived) Enemy. Cheers!! |
Gistok
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Username: Gistok
Post Number: 4252
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:46 pm: | |
The problem on this forum is that too few posters have ever taken a Logic class, where they would learn that an Ad Hominem (personal attack) is not part of the debating process at all, but is one of 41 identifiable fallacies (just like red herrings, slippery slopes etc.).
IMHO, I think that a Logic course (with truth tables, as well as debate logic), should be a high school curriculum requirement.
... it also makes computer programming a hell of a lot easier to master... |
Burnsie
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Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 975
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:52 pm: | |
Gistok-- Hmmm. In theory, ad hominem attacks are one of 41 identifiable fallacies in the debating process. But in practice, they're often very effective in political campaigns! They're often employed by politicians who then turn around and grandstand against their use. I think the kind of people who tend to make ad hominem attacks, if forced to take a logic course, would keep making the attacks anyway. |
Urbanize
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Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1137
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:54 pm: | |
"Urbanize and Livernoisyard: No, nope, nah, hell no. A big part of this forum's lasting and indelible charm is the startling quickness with which we jump up to the happy task of taking self-righteous offense and ramming our indignance up the ass of The (perceived) Enemy. Cheers!!"
Ravine just opened up the issues with society that are immoral and injust. I see where you're coming from though. Yes, if someone feel that their issue is important, go right ahead and debate it to the raw bone. I was speaking of racial, sexual and disrespectful issues on the site though that shouldn't be allowed. Come on, how is that an indelible charm to heave someone offending another person? |
Lilpup
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Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 2088
Registered: 06-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 11:57 pm: | |
Burnsie, many in politics are lawyers and there's a logic section on the LSAT, so it's entirely possible they learned their attack strategies from taking a logic class, or something similar. |
Lmichigan
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Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 5471
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 12:05 am: | |
The quality of posts on this site has greatly declined, and I found myself adding to that reduced quality. It's really getting frustrating. Eventually, if the forum isn't properly moderated, you're going to chase away the ones here that offer significant value to discussions the forum. In fact, it's already happened as can be seen in the downward spiral of quality posts. We have few critical thinkers, on here, and a bunch of immature reactionaries.
I'm really beginning to wonder if this is a characteristic of the greater Metro Detroit reflected in the vast majority that post, here. Because, to tell you the truth, the metro is one of the most negative, nasty, and pessimistic places I've ever personally witnessed. I mean, everything from a funny post about the Joe Louis fist turning into a racial discussion, to people posting entire new threads out of nothing more than spite. It's getting old; it's not funny; it's not cute. All it does is reinforce the stereotype that Metro Detroit will never dig itself out of its cultural/social and economic hole. Discussing things, here, has gone from a fun experience to a complete and perpetually defensive chore. |
Urbanize
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Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1139
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 12:37 am: | |
I do agree with Lmichigan on one particular point, that the Forums aren't moderated enough. I don't want to put my membership on the line, but what if The admin. had a system where they appoint several unbiased Forumers to patrol the boards and threads for trolls, spammers, and what not and run through the moderation steps as needed. MAybe then the folks on here would watch what they doand say compared to the system with only two moderators. However, I do have a moderation system that could go into affect, but I'm not going to suggest it due to certain reasons.
(Message edited by Urbanize on May 07, 2007)
(Message edited by Urbanize on May 07, 2007) |
Ravine
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Username: Ravine
Post Number: 884
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 12:42 am: | |
Despite my somewhat facetious earlier remark, I must agree with L's assertion. While I am a tireless advocate of free speech, I am not really into wanting everyone to "speak their mind," particularly when the whole act is really only about baiting people and waiting to attack them with insults. I have noticed that guys like Jjaba never even bother to participate in that type of thread. Older and wiser, I suppose. Life really is too short to waste on bullshit, although I am, occasionally, guilty of doing so. |
Burnsie
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Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 976
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 1:01 am: | |
Urbanize wrote, "...appoint several unbiased Forumers to patrol the boards..."
I don't think there's such a thing as an unbiased person, even if one sincerely thinks he/she is one. As a wise professor once said, "to breathe is to judge."
Ravine--
Free speech, as guaranteed by our Constitution, only means that you can speak or write your mind without the government (federal, state or local) harassing you. It has nothing to do with private restrictions on speech, and I've seen countless people get that confused. I'm not harping on you personally, but since you mentioned it I thought I'd bring up the topic.
The government can't tell Lowell or any poster on this forum what he or she can say on it. But *Lowell* could freely restrict or delete any posts he wants, with or without comment or explanation. |
Ravine
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Username: Ravine
Post Number: 888
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 1:32 am: | |
Burnsie: I know, I know. Actually, though, I wish you would have offered that clarification on the "Funeral For The "N" Word" thread, when some folks were seeming to feel as though their right to Free Speech was being threatened. |
Kathinozarks
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Username: Kathinozarks
Post Number: 447
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 1:48 am: | |
Thanks for that bit of knowledge, Burnsie.
I am one of the countless confused!
LMichigan, I just had a thought. Wouldn't it be kind of normal for discussion groups to peter out after a while because it's the same people talking about the same things? You know, we all know where each other stands on a topic, so if it comes up everyone just rolls their eyes and says, "oh brother, I know what HE's going to say!"
I bet that is what happens. When you hang out with the same people every day you get bored.
I do agree that people hide behind their computers and don't even have to try to be civil. There is a certain 'charge' that some humans get out of offending others.
It's cool, whatever. |
Goat
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Username: Goat
Post Number: 9398
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 9:45 am: | |
Fuck you. How's that? |
Patrick
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Username: Patrick
Post Number: 4389
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 9:46 am: | |
The forum has always been a place of radical ideas, but man these newbies have really shaken it up. By newbie, I mean someone who joined up in 2006 or later. |