Michele_lundgren Member Username: Michele_lundgren
Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 12:41 pm: | |
"WERE YOU THERE??" Michele and Carl Lundgren and Patt Slack of River's Edge Gallery are planning an event for June 15th in downtown Wyandotte. We are looking for artists, vendors, poets, musicians, bands, old hippies and other like kinds to participate. For all additional information please call or email the gallery at: (734)246-9880 (Patt, Jeremy or Aimee) riversedgegallery@wyan.org or the Lundgren's at lundgrenart@aol.com |
Jelk Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4357 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 9:02 pm: | |
Where does Plum Street run through Wyandotte? |
Dan Member Username: Dan
Post Number: 1394 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 11:39 pm: | |
At the really nice gallery Pat now owns there. I guess maybe they are using it as the staging point because: 1. They already have control of the venue at no additional cost 2. It doesn't have an MGM casino construction site sitting on top of it. I highly recommend stopping at her gallery, its 3 floors, and it’s jammed with wonderful Detroit area art, and I mean jammed. You could spend a few hours in there no problem. |
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 1607 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:02 am: | |
I think that all the old hippies should set a date to converge on the site of Plum Street. In other words, get a few hundred of them together and take over the MGM casino. In a very '60s-non-violent way, of course. Sound like fun? |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 11550 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:57 am: | |
Sounds like a job for BAMN! |
Gannon Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 9104 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 3:46 pm: | |
I won't go in, but I'll circle the place seven times every day for a week then get the people to SHOUT and see if the walls come a tumblin' down. |
Douglasm Member Username: Douglasm
Post Number: 824 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 6:05 pm: | |
Do the folks staging the reunion have any connection to Plum Street? One time shop owners, maybe? |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 950 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 7:38 pm: | |
A co-worker of mine often mentions Plum Street as being quite the place back a few years ago (she is probably about 60), but outside of her, I had never heard of it. It might have something to do with being a generation younger. Where was/is it? |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 1498 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 7:47 pm: | |
http://info.detnews.com/histor y/story/index.cfm?id=136&categ ory=locations |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 954 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 8:35 pm: | |
Ah. Thanks. It all makes sense now. All of it. |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 955 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 8:36 pm: | |
Well, except for, what does downtown Wyandotte have to do with it? Is that where the modern day 'Plum Street' is? |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 1502 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 8:00 am: | |
quote:Well, except for, what does downtown Wyandotte have to do with it? Is that where the modern day 'Plum Street' is No. I would assume it just happens to be where the event organizers live. |
Jelk Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4358 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 1:57 pm: | |
quote:No. I would assume it just happens to be where the event organizers live. In other words the deep commitment to changing the world for the better so loudly espoused by the generation coming to age in the 1960's is, in fact, a steaming pile of bullshit. |
Douglasm Member Username: Douglasm
Post Number: 826 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 3:08 pm: | |
Yea, Jelk, but it was very high quality bullshit. The only two places that really stand out in my memory are the Full Stomach resturant and The Wisdom Tooth above it. The resturant was pretty good, and the Wisdom Tooth was a folk club with after hours jazz on the weekends. They cut out the jazz about the time an after hours place opened up in the Wolverine Hotel in their show bar. Better venue, and in the late '60's, musicians on the road still stayed there..... |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 1504 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 3:20 pm: | |
quote:In other words the deep commitment to changing the world for the better so loudly espoused by the generation coming to age in the 1960's is, in fact, a steaming pile of bullshit Just because they are holding it in Wyandotte? How do you know what else these people have done with their lives? Jeez, judgemental much? On topic- I took a tour of Corktown last year and the guide said they were hoping to move a building from Plum Street to Corktown to save it from the casino. Does anyone know if that happened? |
Michele_lundgren Member Username: Michele_lundgren
Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 2:30 pm: | |
Thanks for your interest in our planned event. Carl Lundgren is one of the foremost contributors to Detroit's counter-culture history as one of the top poster artists for The Grande Ballroom. Carl and Michele Lundgren were some of Detroit's "original" hippies and spent time on Plum Street and in the Forest/Warren Community and on Prentis Street in 1967. Prentis Street and the apartments there in 1967 were where the young hippies found places to "crash". We also made our way to Haight/Ashbury and spent time in San Francisco during the Summer of Love. If you don't know what we're talking about then this event is probably something you might not appreciate! Why Wyandotte? Patt Slack and her River's Edge Gallery have been one of the biggest proponents of art and artists and musicians from our Detroit inspired generation. She has an amazing gallery and she is an amazing and generous woman. She is on all the top committees and boards for events in Wyandotte and has graciously invited us to use downtown Wyandotte for little or no upfront money. Although we'd like to hold some events in Detroit and on Plum Street, this event will be considered the KICKOFF! We are hoping to get involved in The Dally in the Ally and do a Prentis Street Reunion/Plum Street thing at that time. PLEASE NOTE!!! THE DATES FOR THE EVENT HAVE CHANGED! NOW SCHEDULED FOR: JULY 20TH, 2007 We still need artists, vendors, musicians and old hippies! Please let us know if you are interested or if you would like to help in any way. lundgrenart@aol.com or riversedgegallery@wyan.org www.carllundgren.com or www.artattheedge.com |
Michele_lundgren Member Username: Michele_lundgren
Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 2:40 pm: | |
PS. Carl and Michele live in Downtown Detroit, in the Cass Corridor, and are still active in all that old hippie "bullshit" you so eloquently espoused! We were on the committee for The Grande Reunion held last fall...do you know how hard it is to do an event in Detroit? We've tried! Wyandotte is sweet little Downriver community and just the place for old hippies to get togther and smile on your brother and try and love one another right now! |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 9396 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 4:29 pm: | |
I do keep trying to smile and love one another but many of the old hippies keep cutting back our jobs and sending them overseas to make more profits. No, not all old hippies...just the majority. BTW: Why is it hard to plan an event in Detroit? |
Kenp Member Username: Kenp
Post Number: 498 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 4:30 pm: | |
Thank you for the information, Michele_lundgren. This is the first I have heard of this. I will send you an email of things that I may be able to assist you with. And I think there are quite a few people on this site who would like to be kept updated on your progress with the event. |
Jelk Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4362 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 5:37 pm: | |
quote:do you know how hard it is to do an event in Detroit? We've tried! Uh huh. |
Michele_lundgren Member Username: Michele_lundgren
Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 12:01 pm: | |
Why is it hard to hold an event in Detroit...? Well, for starters, read the post from the guy who had his truck broken into while trying have dinner! Nothing and nowhere is safe anymore, especially lives! Permits are outrageously expensive. The graft, I mean gratuity, to the Police Department for protection, is mandatory. Insurance costs. No parking. Our little event is not on the same scale as Detroit Festival of the Arts, nor is it on the same scale as a "Family Reunion" at Belle Isle! The art show part of the event will be held in River's Edge and last a whole month afterwards...a REAL gallery space! LOL! We are just so fortunate to be able to "crash" the already happening scene on the THIRD FRIDAY festivities that go on in downtown Wyandotte anyhow..with or without us! So, please note, us old hippies ARE getting a really great gig for next to nothing! We will have tye dye, insense, posters, candles, beads, shirts and hopefully (I haven't called them yet), a table for The Plum Pit (the only store from Plum Street still open, but of course, I think it's in ROSEVILLE now!)A couple of bands from back in the day will play, James Semark might read his poetry, Jerry Younkins, Detroit's FIRST hippie, may make an appearance, and Stanley T. Madhatter (yikes!), will MC! We will have our OWN stage from 6-9pm, open air table space and more!Wyandote is already happening, so if you haven't been there in a while, this will be a great opportunity. Aso, the waterfront is just so beautiful! Please call me ASAP if you want to participate/help out and/or you need more information! Remember the date is JULY 20TH!!! Peace. Michele Lundgren 248-722-8880 lundgrenart@aol.com |
Jelk Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4365 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 12:43 pm: | |
I rest my case. |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 1526 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 1:01 pm: | |
Quotes from the Det. News link above:
quote:Plum Street became a favorite hangout for hippies, who had little money to spend and harassed customers, and later motorcycle gangs, who scared customers away. A spectator at the love-in filmed a member of the Outlaws motorcycle gang, far right savagely beating a bystander. Below, the victim is being dragged away by friends. ^This would be Jelk in the 60s. Bummer, man! |
Jelk Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4368 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 1:02 pm: | |
Altamont man. The Hells Angels were acquitted and that guy is still dead. |
Jimg Member Username: Jimg
Post Number: 841 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 1:03 pm: | |
Jesus, Stanley T. Zillifro...thought he'd...um...made the transition... |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 165 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 1:08 pm: | |
Michelle has a good point. Detroit has become nearly unlivable. Good thing a message board sorta about Detroit is so filled with non-Detroiters that the advertising is still effective. To the good old days. |
Michele_lundgren Member Username: Michele_lundgren
Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 3:02 pm: | |
Well, it's tough living here in Detroit that's true, but I do it anyway. I shop at University Foods and Honeybee Market. We hold a lot of events in Detroit, like at Camillo's place on Woodward, but we got to do what we got to do! Stanley T is alive and well and just as nuts as he was back in the day! He remembers EVERYONE and EVERYTHING about 1967! If you didn't go to the Grande Reunion (in Royal Oak LOL), you should come to this!We are doing our best to get the word out and I just called The Plum Pit! I am trying to get them on board as the one store from Plum Street still around (in EASTPOINT now not Roseville) Peace...Michele with ONE "L"!!! |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 166 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 3:40 pm: | |
Eastpointe with TWO "E"'s!!! |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 4953 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 5:17 pm: | |
quote:Stanley T. Madhatter (yikes!), will MC! Yikes is right, I've shared a coupla stories about experiences with him. Tips the tables about my attendance. Sorry Jelk, but a generation or two later will blame all the problems of the world on your generation as well. I remember well the edition of MAD magazine that had a dozen or so cartoons of the offspring of hippies with their short hair and Republican values bringing shame to their parents, kind of like you. I've searched ebay for that edition, I'll probably pay way too much for it but it will be worth it. |
J_stone Member Username: J_stone
Post Number: 371 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 5:29 pm: | |
Pam - It was demolished unceremoniously in about 10 minutes last summer. It was a special building because it was a brick cottage, rather than frame. |
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 1624 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 5:45 pm: | |
"It was demolished unceremoniously in about 10 minutes last summer." And so goes the recent history of Detroit. |
Jelk Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4372 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 5:57 pm: | |
quote:Sorry Jelk, but a generation or two later will blame all the problems of the world on your generation as well. My generation doesn't delude itself into thinking it was changing the world one hash brownie at a time. Civil rights and peace, how'd that work out again? Oh yeah the whole Plum Street movement is having a reunion in a town with a less than 1% black population and the country is at war. But hey thanks for trying. BTW how's that immigration status of yours Jams? |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 4956 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 6:10 pm: | |
Luv ya too, Man! |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 9405 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 6:19 pm: | |
Michele's post is proof positive that they didn't try to hold it in Detroit all. No parking? Look at a map and you will see all the parking you need. Police Protection? From what, roving packs of wild dogs? Someone's car being broken into? That doesn't happen in Eastpointe (wite an "E")or butt-fuck Idaho? If the old hippies broke down as quick as Michele and her crew just did no wonder they couldn't and didn't accomplish the goals they set for themselves...but hey! Have another brownie and PEACE. Because we all know that has changed the world for the better. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 4957 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 6:26 pm: | |
quote:My generation doesn't delude itself into thinking it was changing the world one hash brownie at a time. So how does your generation delude itself? Meth? Crack? Disapproval and haranguing those who step up and try to make a difference? What have you offered? |
Jelk Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4374 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 6:34 pm: | |
Who made a difference? I see no difference made? Positive or negative. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 4958 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 6:55 pm: | |
Take an objective look at the past 50 years, there have been tremendous changes in values, economics, politics, views of sex, drugs, and alcohol, etc. etc. Hell, I grew up with a solar system of nine planets, now there are only eight. You may never understand it, since you've never known anything different, but the hippie culture of the 60's changed society drastically both positively and negatively. And I think the Lundgrens' choice of a Wyandotte venue totally fits as we of the 60's did not recognize political borders. In other words lighten up. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 4959 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 7:04 pm: | |
I luv ya, Man! |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 1531 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 7:05 pm: | |
quote:Pam - It was demolished unceremoniously in about 10 minutes last summer. It was a special building because it was a brick cottage, rather than frame. Wow, too bad. Do you have any pics? (before the demo) |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 2144 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 7:30 pm: | |
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Michele_lundgren Member Username: Michele_lundgren
Post Number: 6 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 8:09 pm: | |
Our choice of Wyandotte is because it's FREE man!A free STAGE!Free MICS and SOUND SYSTEM! Free ART GALLERY! Free INSURANCE being covered by the gallery sponsoring it! If you can find a six block radius in Detroit that will offer us all of that then, hey, we'll do it! But don't delude yourself into thinking that we can hold an event in Detroit ANYWHERE for free! And we don't WANT police protection, but when you pull a permit for an outdoor event on city streets, it comes with the territory. Greek Town Art Festival had to pay about $50,000 last year for "protection"! I don't make the rules! We also want to try and share an event with The Dally...I'll let let you know just how receptive THEY are to the idea of sharing with us! I sure hope they are! But you must remember... it's not just A PLUM STREET REUNION...it is ALSO the 40th Anniversary of The Summer of Love! Can we still celebrate THAT in Wyandotte or do I have to go to California? Peace. Michele |