  Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 603 Registered: 08-2006 |
I just did the taxes and found I am getting a good refund. I think I will spoil myself with a new PC. I like the PC Mac commercials. I am a lifetime windows IBM Compatible MS user, will I like transitioning to an Apple, or should I stick with the IBM compatible? Any brand suggestions? | ||
Darwinism Member Username: Darwinism Post Number: 596 Registered: 06-2005 |
If you already have a decent monitor, keyboard and mouse, you are certainly going to enjoy getting good bang-for-your-buck by getting a Mac Mini. Or if you wish to spend a little more, an iMac would be very nice too especially because of the space-saving form-factor. Otherwise, sticking with a Windows PC, I believe you will be fine going with major vendors like Dell and HP. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8278 Registered: 10-2003 |
Roth IRA if it isn't maxed out. | ||
Jacob_marley Member Username: Jacob_marley Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2007 |
>> Roth IRA if it isn't maxed out Great advice. The cornerstone of how the truly wealthy got that way, besides minimizing the amount of taxable income they realize as much as possible, is by maximizing their investments in tax advantaged assets ... roths, pension plans, real estate, etc. If you do get a computer, definitely only buy just what you need for your purposes. Computer equipment depreciates very quickly, and the cost of the same technology you pay, say, $1000 today may only be worth $700 by August. And definitely just buy the tower ... keep your old monitor, keyboard etc. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1140 Registered: 02-2004 |
mac mac mac. Buy a Mac. Unless you like viruses! *written on a lovely new Intel iMac that is smoking hot* | ||
Chalu64 Member Username: Chalu64 Post Number: 99 Registered: 08-2005 |
I agree. Always have been a Mac person. Would never change. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 959 Registered: 04-2006 |
Should you buy one make sure you buy one in the City. For example a CompUSA and a Office Depot are within the City limits on Southfield and Ford Rd. Support Detroit jobs when you can! | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 610 Registered: 08-2006 |
The monitor is a newer 15" flat screen w/ integrated speakers my folks gave me when mom upgraded to the 19" flat. It works for me, but when my daughter plays solitaire on it, the monitor hibernates after a few minutes. Probably because I did not get the power cord with it, so I just swiped the one from the cable box. I'll bring it with me when I buy the new tower to get the correct power cord. The key board works fine but all the key letter buttons are worn off. I run MS Office 97 on my old tower, can I load that to the Apple, or do I need to buy an office suite compatible to Macs? Are there Detroit computer stores on the east side? Yes viruses are an issue, I do a lot of surfing, and the old PC takes about 20 minutes to boot up now, some of it's viruses, and some of its to do with the hardware being 7 years old. | ||
Dannaroo Member Username: Dannaroo Post Number: 32 Registered: 05-2006 |
My laptop is a Mac PowerBook G4 and my desktop is a Dell. If I could put ESRI's ArcMap programs onto a Mac (without having to run a dual operating system), I would have switched my desktop to a Mac as well... basically, I have never had any issues with my Mac and just navigating around the OS is much easier (once you get used to it after the switch). And like said previously by others, I also have had no problems with viruses on my Mac. But if you use any specialized programs, make sure they are compatible with Mac before you make the switch... save yourself some future headaches. | ||
Matt Member Username: Matt Post Number: 1163 Registered: 10-2003 |
Zzz... Go with a PC. Don't believe the Mac hype. * Viruses - Yup, it's true. There are a load of viruses out there that would love to do some sort of damage to your computer. However, if you're a smart computer user, a virus isn't going to affect you. Don't download mysterious files from people that you don't know. Don't visit questionable websites that make you install plugins you've never heard of to browse their content (like websites that post illegal serial numbers, movies, games, etc). Don't click on banners that say you've won a free laptop because you're the 1,000,000,000,000th visitor. Did various incarnations of the Windows operating systems have flaws that only an incredibly small percentage of the population would be able to take advantage of. Yes, however, once Microsoft learned of a problem, hotfixes/updates were available to take care of thing. It's all common sense. However, a lot of people aren't computer savvy, which Apple (in my opinion) knows and is trying to take advantage of. * Macs are better than PCs for desktop publishing, digital photography, and video editing applications - Just not true. While each operating system might have their own exclusive software (ie, Final Cut), most major software developers have come out with versions of their titles that work on both PC and Mac. Infact, Adobe, the maker of highly used photo/video software, not too long ago stated that PCs are actually faster than Macs. This claim was due to a performance comparison of a then top-of-the line 2.53GHz Dell Precision Workstation versus an equally decked-out dual-processor Power Mac G4 running at 1GHz. The single-processor Dell Precision crushed the Mac in every test. * Gamer? Definitely don't choose a Mac if you're a gamer. You're just never going to get the same amount of choices if you end up going with a Mac. * Windows Vista - There has been a lot of wait and see stances in regard to Windows Vista. Claims of security, compatibility, or just plain stability. The same thing happened when Microsoft rolled out XP in 2001. However, in comparing the two in terms of launch, I have to say that things went much smoother with the Vista launch. I've experienced no problems whatsoever in terms of compatibility with my hardware or software. It's also a very graphically beautiful. And no, you won't need a very powerful PC to take advantage of the graphical upgrades to the operating system. It's also much easier to work with. Definitely a more people friendly operating system. Organizing the digital music library is easy and sharing it with my PC in the living room is a breeze. I can also plug in many many different USB devices and it will be recognized without having to install any software. I'd recommend a system with either Vista Home Premium or Vista Ultimate. Any questions?  | ||
Docmo Member Username: Docmo Post Number: 221 Registered: 10-2005 |
"Organizing the digital music library is easy and sharing it with my PC in the living room is a breeze. I can also plug in many many different USB devices and it will be recognized without having to install any software. " Wow! You can actually do that on a PC now. Funny, I have been doing this with incredible ease and elegance on my Macs for years now. The seamless integration of your life's needs with Apple's excellent standard iLife software (iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie and many others) is something Vista and Dell still do not have down. Apple will always be a couple of years ahead of the disconnected PC world. Oldredfordette, Great to find something we completely agree on. Macs for life! | ||
Docmo Member Username: Docmo Post Number: 222 Registered: 10-2005 |
Cambrian, Check this link. The Mac geniuses are excellent. They will take care of your entire data transfer if you buy your Mac from the Apple Store. Just take your PC in with you when you purchase your Mac. They provide excellent education on working with the new Mac OS. You won't need much help though. It's very intuitive. Remember, Mac--hip, cool, urban. PC--dorkish corporate type Twelve Oaks or Somerset http://www.apple.com/macosx/sw itch/ | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1145 Registered: 02-2004 |
You'll have to upgrade your Office software. You can run a windows program (Paralells will allow you to install and run your Windows) on the intel Macs but it will slow you down. If you decide to switch, switch for real. The test Matt quoted was run on computers two generations ago. If you want to play games, buy a games machine. Docmo is right, the iLife suite is the most wonderful suite of programs available. If you want to spend a portion of every day working virus control, be my guest. I can spend that time being productive. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 962 Registered: 04-2006 |
Dana not many folks run GIS software, only us geeks! | ||
Matt Member Username: Matt Post Number: 1164 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Actually, so have I. I just wanted to point out a fact that Macphiles bring up that just isn't true. quote: Yes, because when I want to create a professional looking film and export it, I don't turn to Adobe Premiere or Adobe After Effects (industry standard tools). I turn to iMovie and iDVD. It's true! quote: Wow, more ridiculous hype. I bet you've downloaded copies of those lame "Hi, I'm a Mac - I'm a PC" commercials, haven't you? | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1148 Registered: 02-2004 |
If I want to create a professional looking film I use Premiere too. If my niece, who has very little time or inclination to learn that complicated software, wants to make a little movie of her children to send around the family, she can use iMovie. She learned to use it in an afternoon of coaching, and her mother can see her grandchildren now at the click of her one button mouse. So here's your choice, spend your time futzing around with a system that might bug out, and only be able to use high end, learning curved software or, buy a computer that you can use out of the box, that will not get viruses (although to be honest, I always feel I'm encouraging some scumbag to write the virus that will finally break the wall) and you can play with all sorts of easy and fun products while also using the software you are familiar with. Whew! | ||
Matt Member Username: Matt Post Number: 1165 Registered: 10-2003 |
Windows Vista hasn't crashed on me once since I installed it January 30. My system hasn't also slowed/bogged down either. It was very buggy when I was testing it in beta last summer, but that's to be expected. It was a beta. And if you want to compare functionality of OSX vs. Vista, Vista has all those same goodies built right into it. I can create movies, slideshows, DVDs, seemlessly, just like OSX users. However, this little debate is accomplishing nothing. It all just has to do with personal preference. | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 614 Registered: 08-2006 |
I may just try the apple to be different. Like my late great Uncle Matt said when asked why after a lifetime of buying Fords, he purchased his brand new '78 Caprice, he said "I just wanted to see what it was like to own a Chevy for once". | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2499 Registered: 10-2004 |
For most general users today, the differences between Macs and PCs aren't major. Shop around at some brick-and-mortar stores and decide which machine you want for yourself. Then buy the one you choose as cheaply as you can elsewhere (online?--no sales tax usually). OTOH, if you need to rely on PC-specific software applications, such as Adobe FrameMaker which have no current Mac versions and only want one computer, you would then go PC. Whichever way you go, make sure that you create a hard-drive partition or two for installing Linux so that you can use one version of that OS. In addition, keep your older machines for use as possible file servers in a home network for backup purposes. But don't run all of them simultaneously if you desire to save on electrical energy consumption. I have an older P3 Dell as a file server which has three hard-drives that were scrapped out of different retired machines, giving an additional storage of 170 GB, plus having the capability of running other apps if my main unit or the ThinkPad are tied up (or elsewhere) doing other things. And get an LCD monitor instead of a CRT. Best Buy is a very good place to compare various models. They have about twenty or more running as demos. (Message edited by LivernoisYard on February 12, 2007) | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 615 Registered: 08-2006 |
Basically, I just run MS office. I use Word and XL, could use a photoshop program for the ebay pics. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1153 Registered: 02-2004 |
Keep us posted Cambrian. If you go with a Mac and you need some help, I am married to my tech, and he's very good (and reasonable). | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2438 Registered: 10-2003 |
Don't fall into the Marketing abyss generated by both Microsoft and Apple. Remember they are both global mega-companies trying to separate you from your hard earned money. Apple has done a wonderful job brainwashing it's followers into thinking they are an anti-corporation. Don't drink the Kool-Aid. They have a wonderful marketing campaign that allows them to net a higher premium for their just as shitty stuff. Microsoft is the evil empire, but at least they don't deny it. List the Programs you use on a daily basis. Price out the box and applications to put together the system. Then buy the computer that costs the least that will run all the apps. I use engineering applications that either won't run or are cost prohibitive on a mac. The low market share of Macs drives up development costs for specialty applications. | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 616 Registered: 08-2006 |
Will do ORF. I expect the return sometime in March and will go through with the purchase at that time unless some other emergency pops up requiring the money get spent on that. About what would I spend on an Apple? I haven't started looking yet, but like LY, my dad buys his windows machines for his office cheap on the internet, for like $350 / tower. I don't mind spending a little more, I like the no viruses aspect. But it would be hard to justify spending double what dad spends on the internet. Ndavies, I use Catia V5 for classes. I've considered buying a student copy, but since found out it's a very watered down version of what we would use in the real world or even class, so I decided not too. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1154 Registered: 02-2004 |
If you get a mini, you can keep your monitor and your keyboard/mouse. I'll check with the tech and ask him to work up a quick price. He uses a couple different online sources for hardware and software. You'll want computer, extra RAM, iLife and Microsoft Works, right? | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2439 Registered: 10-2003 |
I haven't worked with Catia. Our engineers on the hardware side use it here. We have both Windows and Unix versions of it. I don't know if Catia is available in Mac form. Most of my heartburn comes from embedded system cross compilers and emulators. They almost never support the Mac. I also use Mathworks Matlab, Simulink and Statflow extensively. They do have Linux, Unix and OSX versions. | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 617 Registered: 08-2006 |
ORF, Microsoft Office is what I use. Works does not have all the features I need. Ask your husband/tech if I can load my copy of MS office 97 onto the new apple. thx! | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2440 Registered: 10-2003 |
I don't think you're going to be able to touch a new Mac for under $600. And No you won't be able to load your windows version of Word onto a mac. (Message edited by ndavies on February 12, 2007) | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2503 Registered: 10-2004 |
Load the Mac version of the OpenOffice.org suite and get much the same functionality as Office plus some that Office hasn't. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1155 Registered: 02-2004 |
http://store.apple.com/1-800-M Y-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore. woa/wa/RSLID?mco=B3C47B0&nclm= Macmini From the Apple Store. Note the iMac on the far right, a good price on an excellent computer. http://www.macmall.com/macmall /families/macmini_intel/ $20 cheaper than the Apple Store with free shipping. They also offer Paralells which will allow you to load your Windows crap and run your Office and your games. TechBoy says I'm wrong, it will run at full speed. These are quick prices. Food for thought. If you want us to look deeper, let me know. | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 619 Registered: 08-2006 |
"Get Parallels Desktop for only $9.99*" This is a patch that allows me to run windows programs, namely MS office 97? | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2506 Registered: 10-2004 |
PC emulators on a Mac work OK, but the Windows apps with them run far slower than they do on a Wintel box. | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 620 Registered: 08-2006 |
Ok, so it would be advised to get the suite for the Apple? The 'Open Office'? | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1157 Registered: 02-2004 |
Yes, Paralells will allow you to run your Windows stuff. According to hubby, who installed it on a pal's new intel iMac, it runs at the same speed. I'll ask him about the other in a bit. He's with a client. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2507 Registered: 10-2004 |
Well, I use both Office and OOo on a Wintel. OOo is available free and works on several OSs. But I also work with Office 2000 (never got 2003) for those functions that OOo cannot do. And I'm now evaluating Abode's InDesign so that I can work better along with graphic artists/editors who use that after I hand off any elaborate projects to them for publication instead of doing them totally (including making the PDFs) in-house. BTW, InDesign is available for use on both Macs and PCs. I volunteer some time as a managing editor / technical editor on one of (Sun Microsystems sponsored) open-sourced OOo's two main documentation projects--OOoAuthors--and a small amount of time on the other--OOo Documentation Project. So, I'm more skilled with OOo and Adobe FrameMaker because they work better for writing/editing books than Word. As a beta tester for Office 2007, Microsoft will give me a free copy of Office 2007 Pro for just attending its day-long seminar at Cobo on Tuesday. I heard they'll even feed us lunch in addition to a Continental brunch at 8AM. (Message edited by LivernoisYard on February 13, 2007) | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1158 Registered: 02-2004 |
i use InDesign for all my graphics work - what a fine page layout program it is. | ||
Hugo8100 Member Username: Hugo8100 Post Number: 27 Registered: 06-2006 |
Uh, that Mac Mini is hardly a good deal or a "good" computer. You would be paying a premium for a small formfactor hardware and unless space is really a concern I wouldn't recommend it, especially if the person is looking to stretch their dollar. You can get twice the performance for that price with regular hardware. I built mine for under $600 (not counting the price of the OS and other software). A computer is a tool. Make a list of tasks you will be using the computer for. If you can, write down a list of software you absolutely need to have. From there you can begin to choose the tool that fits the job best. IIRC, Parallel Desktop requires that you have a copy of Windows. So you would still need to buy a copy of Windows. That Apple offers this at all should tell you that it's not the one size fits all solution mac advocates claim it to be. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1166 Registered: 02-2004 |
Cambrian has Windows. | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4223 Registered: 10-2003 |
As much as I love endless MAC vs. PC debates, it's like listening to Lutherans discuss the merits of that faith's various Synods, would someone explain the value of RAM MHz and hard drive RPM. How much more powerful is 2MB of RAM at 667 MHz than at 533 MHz? How much more powerful is 100 GB hard drive at 7200 RPM versus 5400 RPM? | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2520 Registered: 10-2004 |
Today's processors utilize plenty of pipelining (parallel processing). So, whatever CPU/system is better or not depends upon the architecture of the particular CPU versus another. So this can become quite involved and even the benchmarking tests may indicate one is better at one task but not at another. Consult the major magazines for their own lab reports. The hard-drive speed usually only enters when an application/data or the OS is loaded into RAM or when virtual memory is used. It's best to avoid having to go into virtual memory and fill all or nearly all the RAM capacity of the system because every app developer will find ways to get their apps to run better, usually at the cost of using more RAM--not less. The figures you put out seem more in line with small microcontrollers today--and not modern computers--which are found in electronic devices, cell phones, auto "computers," etc. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1168 Registered: 02-2004 |
Way to suck the life out of the discussion, LY. I love Macs, PC's suck. there, that's better. | ||
Paulc Member Username: Paulc Post Number: 99 Registered: 03-2005 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Q1AfL0Tsqp8&NR | ||
Sticks Member Username: Sticks Post Number: 205 Registered: 08-2005 |
No one's mentioned Linux yet? How disappointing. I'd say hire one of us geeks to build you a system for around $600, install Ubuntu and the open-source clones of all the common programs you need and bam, there you have it: a custom PC built for you. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2559 Registered: 10-2004 |
quote: Oh? Doesn't this count? quote: | ||
Sticks Member Username: Sticks Post Number: 207 Registered: 08-2005 |
Sorry, LY, skipped over one sentence in a 42-post thread at 1 in the morning. And even if they go with a full Windows partition, live CDs are still fun to play around with. | ||
Doctors Member Username: Doctors Post Number: 711 Registered: 10-2003 |
Just get a mac. My g4 ibook makes computing a much happier experience. | ||
Ddaydave Member Username: Ddaydave Post Number: 445 Registered: 04-2005 |
someone mentioned ubuntu I`ve been messing around with it for a while now its a great OS. the thing I dont like about linux is the limited amount of programs you can find for it .. for example if you want a picture editor for windows you can use Adobe photoshop, corel , jasc , paint.net etc etc for linux the number you can use is limited | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2611 Registered: 10-2004 |
There are thousands of open-sourced software applications on Linux. Try SourceForge or other sites. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1209 Registered: 02-2004 |
The Apple Store has a refurb Intel iMac for $749 the other day. You must keep your eyes on that site if you are looking for a computer. | ||
Defendbrooklyn Member Username: Defendbrooklyn Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2005 |
consumerreports.org they will tell you everything you need to know. | ||
Sticks Member Username: Sticks Post Number: 224 Registered: 08-2005 |
quote: Get Gimp. It's free, but so are those other programs if you know where to look, *wink nudge*. | ||
Doctors Member Username: Doctors Post Number: 712 Registered: 10-2003 |
Does anyone know of any newsreader software for the ipod? | ||
Ddaydave Member Username: Ddaydave Post Number: 448 Registered: 04-2005 |
I`ve tried gimp sticks and wasn`t impressed with it ..Livernoisyard I`ve messed with many programs from SourceForge some are great others are pretty lame .. one program I do use from there is gaim.. I`ve tried a more then a few flavors if linux the next one I`m going to try is debian .. | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 329 Registered: 04-2006 |
my dear man, go for a mac. i was a tried and true PC only kind of man - used to be a complete geek about it, did programming in visual basic, and was in the middle of building myself a pc, and then in college, to be in art school, it was mandatory to have a mac... so i got one... oh my god. i'm never going back to pc land... | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 3698 Registered: 10-2003 |
"Basically, I just run MS office. I use Word and XL, could use a photoshop program for the ebay pics." If that is the case either platform is fine. I would say buy a weekly loss leader at BestBuy. If you want to be swank at the Starbucks get Mac laptop. We use both in our business. I mostly use wintel because most of what I do is web related. Just about all apps I use come out for Windows first and rarely ever for mac. The customer base almost all uses Windows so I have to speak their language first. I have no loyalty whatsoever. Whatever gets does the job done the bestest and cheapest gets my nod. I don't go near millionaires vs. billionaires cheering matches. Mac has long learned to sell image and there is a lot of money in that. We know that well here in Detroit. Car buyers will pay huge premiums for an inferior car as long as they like the look and it runs and stops. Be honest now, if you needed emergency tech support, who would you want to show up -- the hip Mac kid or the nerd? As far as Macs and viruses go, I view that as a disaster waiting to happen. Meanwhile, in the background, this whole discussion is taking place on an apache linux system. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1241 Registered: 02-2004 |
I agree Lowell, the day some bitter little kid cracks the internal wall, we Mac-ettes will be singing the blues. My Mac tech is no hip kid! He's grooooooovy. | ||
Track75 Member Username: Track75 Post Number: 2493 Registered: 10-2003 |
Is Apple the "Wal-Mart" of the computer industry, given Steve Jobs' recent anti-union blast? quote:http://online.wsj.com/article_ print/SB117219910015216918.htm l BTW, Jobs is a fairly big contributor to Dem politicians so this can't be simply dismissed as partisan. Apple is also quite big in the educational market so this is likely to hurt him in the wallet. Perhaps Apple's close ties to the educational system is what gave Jobs the insight to make the comments he did. Back on topic, follow Lowell's advice and get all the computer you need from the big-box's weekly <$500 special. | ||
Doctors Member Username: Doctors Post Number: 713 Registered: 10-2003 |
And this gets more macs in the classrooms...how? | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2641 Registered: 10-2004 |
An alternative is to roll your own desktop PC using the components available at the brick-and-mortar computer shops in the area or via the Internet. One such place is on Telegraph, and there are others in Macomb and Oakland Counties. Now that the 64-bit CPUs have been around for a time, I might build my own, using many of the refinements that the gamers put into their machines. Going that extra distance allows your system to have a longer economic lifetime which justifies the extra initial cost. If going the tablet/laptop route, either purchase an older one used or a refurbished new unit. The refurbished route can drop the price down 50% or even more. Once a brand-new unit gets used and returned for any of a number of reasons, it usually becomes available as a refurbished unit. Comp USA has an auction site for their refurbished units where I bought a couple back in 2001 for only 35% of the price they were charging for the same new units in their brick-and-mortars. The S&H ran about $20 from Dallas, but without any MI sales tax being charged, at least back then. (Message edited by LivernoisYard on February 26, 2007) | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1427 Registered: 02-2004 |
Hey Cambrian, My husband/tech sez to tell you there are bargains galore right now if you are still interested in buying a Mac. | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 911 Registered: 08-2006 |
I ended up using the tax return for other things. I fixed a leaking roof, paid some bills, it's about all gone save a few hundred bux. Maybe next year! | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1429 Registered: 02-2004 |
No good using your computer and holding an umbrella over your head at the same time. Oh well. | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 914 Registered: 08-2006 |
LOL, that's exactly where it was leaking too was in my home office / dining room, right over my chair. | ||
Darwinism Member Username: Darwinism Post Number: 628 Registered: 06-2005 |
quote: Where is the 'bargains galore' at ? Please share more details. Thanks. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1447 Registered: 02-2004 |
The Apple Site - look for refurbs. It changes day to day so keep going back. I am writing this on an Intel iMac refurb - screaming fast, elegant and user friendly. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 708 Registered: 02-2007 |
"Otherwise, sticking with a Windows PC, I believe you will be fine going with major vendors like Dell and HP." That pretty much summed it up. However, if you're hard pressed to find a MAC, then try Apple. | ||
Ddaydave Member Username: Ddaydave Post Number: 465 Registered: 04-2005 |
a new version of Ubuntu has been released I love it many great improvements ..I dual boot and run both windows and Linux and have to say I will most likely switch to Ubuntu before I upgrade to vista .. dell just started selling computers with this operating system .. Dave |
