Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 9354 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:45 pm: | |
I am not trying to be the grammar police but what is going on with all of the spelling and grammar mistakes that have been posted lately? Two thread titles have been mis-spelled today already. Geez, maybe some folks are right about the public education system. |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 2024 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:49 pm: | |
can't edit thread titles so you'll have to live with typos there - don't assume they all go unrecognized |
Detroitsuperfly Member Username: Detroitsuperfly
Post Number: 10 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:50 pm: | |
I happen to know that all the posters who mis-spelled words went to private Catholic school. |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 973 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:50 pm: | |
Egzaktly, git ovr it! |
Quozl Member Username: Quozl
Post Number: 414 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:03 pm: | |
What private Catholic school did you attend Detroitsuperfly? mis-spelled=misspelled |
Crew Member Username: Crew
Post Number: 1216 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:07 pm: | |
this topic is rediclueless |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 1343 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:11 pm: | |
Goat- they are just a bunch of morans. |
Skulker Member Username: Skulker
Post Number: 3766 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:23 pm: | |
DumfuckistanYes.com |
Vas Member Username: Vas
Post Number: 692 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:24 pm: | |
stupid, snobbish thread |
Detroitsuperfly Member Username: Detroitsuperfly
Post Number: 11 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:36 pm: | |
Sorry quozl, spell check accepts both spellings. |
Gumby Member Username: Gumby
Post Number: 1551 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:38 pm: | |
I agre cumpleetly stoopid tahpic. (Spell check didn't catch agre BTW) |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 11483 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:41 pm: | |
Why did some dumbass post this under the Discuss Detroit threads? |
Detroitrulez Member Username: Detroitrulez
Post Number: 224 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 2:06 pm: | |
because it is emblematic of the low literacy rates and poor educational standards in detroit proper? |
Buyamerican Member Username: Buyamerican
Post Number: 62 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 2:43 pm: | |
I can't stand the use of "prolly" instead of "probably". In my opinion the use of internet chat rooms is one of the biggest culprits. |
Sknutson Member Username: Sknutson
Post Number: 846 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 2:48 pm: | |
quote:stupid, snobbish thread Why are there so many spelling and grammar errors? Perhaps if people did not view correct grammar and correct spelling to be "snobbish"..... |
Dialh4hipster Member Username: Dialh4hipster
Post Number: 2040 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 3:06 pm: | |
THANK YOU |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 975 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 3:11 pm: | |
No, I think we just view those that ignore the essence of a what someone took the time to read, and post to inform thier friends of, and instead points out a nit picky keyboard fubar as being petty. Shoot any ADHD 6th grader can point out misspellings in a paragraph. Not proved anything really. |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1430 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 3:14 pm: | |
quote:No, I think we just view those that ignore the essence of a what someone took the time to read, and post to inform thier friends of, and instead points out a nit picky keyboard fubar as being petty. Shoot any ADHD 6th grader can point out misspellings in a paragraph. Not proved anything really. Any 6th grader can point out misspellings, yes. But I have no clue what else you just said. |
Admin Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 607 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 3:17 pm: | |
DETROIT CONNECTIONS: "For discussion among forum members, discussions about the forum..." |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 976 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 3:26 pm: | |
I was speaking to those that would necessitate the need for correct spelling and grammar. As if we are submitting articles for the New England Journal of Medicine or something, not posting messages on a web forum that is akin to a BS session at the bar over a beer. |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 1346 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 3:38 pm: | |
quote:As if we are submitting articles for the New England Journal of Medicine or something, not posting messages on a web forum that is akin to a BS session at the bar over a beer. Even here, spelling and grammar should count so people can understand what you are saying. Some posts I just skip over because they are too hard to decipher. |
Lurker Member Username: Lurker
Post Number: 1689 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 3:39 pm: | |
Any good bartender will kick you out of the bar if you are slurring your words that bad. |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 977 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 4:01 pm: | |
"Some posts I just skip over because they are too hard to decipher." Interesting! I just skip some posts because the topic is of no interest to me. I don't open the threads to check for spelling errors. Too much like work. I get on here 'cause it's fun. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 4119 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 6:26 pm: | |
I wonder just how much alcohol and/or drugs play in the spelling deficiencies on this forum? Probably a lot more than people would like to admit! |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3022 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 7:01 pm: | |
quote:I wonder just how much alcohol and/or drugs play in the spelling deficiencies on this forum?
Nah! Those who routinely misspell and use incoherent grammar and thought processes do it mainly because they are undereducated, and it shows. |
Citylover Member Username: Citylover
Post Number: 2257 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 12:45 pm: | |
Spelling is memorization.It has nothing to do with intelligence. |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 74 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 1:16 pm: | |
Spell Checkers, Turn away now, Its not good.
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Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 75 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 1:23 pm: | |
But for a challenge, one word above is Incorrect. |
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100
Post Number: 833 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 1:24 pm: | |
It is kind of funny that people can read that stuff. I had no problem with it. Another reason for all of you spell checkers: We are all typing kind of fast and since it is a discussion board, we don't care if we mess up here and there. |
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100
Post Number: 834 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 1:26 pm: | |
It is the "will" in the second paragraph, 9th line down, right? (Message edited by SCS100 on April 13, 2007) |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 76 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 1:34 pm: | |
lol, not the one I saw, But it looks like you found another ! It was stated that first and last letter's don't change, and you found one that did. The one I see has a wrong letter in the word. you have a good eye there ! (Message edited by Ragtoplover59 on April 13, 2007) |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 77 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 1:44 pm: | |
How bad is that, A Spelling Error within a Spelling Error. |
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 3785 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 1:44 pm: | |
"It's a mighty poor mind that can only spell a word one way." Andrew Jackson [my favorite retort] I am so happy the web came along. I get corrections sent to me all the time, both spelling and grammar, and am greatly appreciative of them. I am notorious for dropping last letters off words, especially "you" when I mean "your". IMO, English is long overdue for spelling reform. It has way to many antiquated words with useless letters -- through, hymn, rhyme etc. The letter "c" is useless other than for the ch sound. "q" is also a waste of ink, or electrons now and ditto for "x". The soft "g" should be replaced by 'j' and on and on... /end rant |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 2218 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 2:11 pm: | |
4th word from the end....ends with a v instead of a y. With a "y", the word is "completely". |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 78 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 3:41 pm: | |
Kathleen That is the one I seen at first. Then after looking closer after Scs100 seen his, I found another, But can't seem to locate it now. After re-reading the last line, I knew more were in there hidden. |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 79 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 3:50 pm: | |
Kathleen' I wanted to add that I seen your Pic in the newsletter about the Picnic, Darn food on the grill made my mouth water ! |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 2219 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 3:50 pm: | |
Another typo is in the 2nd para, 4th line: lterter has an extra r |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 80 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 3:57 pm: | |
"Darn food on the grill made my mouth water !" versus looking for mistakes, That makes my eyes water. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 1890 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 4:08 pm: | |
It wouldn't be difficult to write a program that shuffles any text in that way. I wonder if all texts are just as legible or if maybe that example was selected for effect. http://wordsmith.org/anagram/ is related. |
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher
Post Number: 1003 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 4:36 pm: | |
Quote: "that I seen your Pic in the newsletter", and another from the same author: "I seen at first" "I seen" should be "I saw". It's not spelling but it's still irritating. |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 81 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 9:46 pm: | |
Detroitteacher If I ever turn in a paper to you, Feel free to Grade it as you wish. But everyone is Different by way of Looks, Speaking Ability, Writing Ability, The style of Clothes they may choose, or even the Kind of House that they Live in. That being said, Please try not to get "Irritated" so Easily and you will never get called out for "Nitpicking" I do not Write Books for a living, so surely I Do have a lot to learn about Proper Grammar. I also am not a Doctor, But no less of a person if I were to save someones life using the Wrong Technique. My post are not an attempt to make anyone believe I am a Better Person then they are. I'm just here to Share with people who love Detroit. If one needs perfection, I might suggest MENSA.com |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 82 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 10:29 pm: | |
After re-reading my post, I felt it had the tone of Defending myself. I'm not ! It was a mistake in your eyes and I can't change that. But to someone else, It may (my mistakes) have read just fine. Just as when I lived in Detroit it was common to go to the "Pop Store" In my current location you couldn't find a "Pop Store " to save your life. But if I were to write that in a (Fictional Website) NashvilleYes.com, Would anyone be correct to get Irritated by my choice of words? Maybe, But who's problem would it really be? I also am sure that most of us ( I mean the older ones) Have only learned to type after the Computer started becoming as common as is is now, I am a two-fingered typist, I will not turn on any IM program because I can't keep up with a conversation with my fingers. I'm not using that for any defense with my Grammar, But at the same time I try not to take shortcuts such as TTYL or ROTFLMAO. I am however overly guilty of using lol and too many ,,,,,for a pause I am "kinda" Proud of my Typing Skills as they are, When I first started (Typing) something like this would of taken me several hours to finish. So, Point Taken, and I'll continual to learn. Thanks Detroitteacher, now if I clean the Chalkboard,,Can (excuse me) May I go Home now? |
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher
Post Number: 1004 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 6:49 am: | |
SEEN is not the correct form of the verb "to see" to be used with a first person pronoun. Perhaps if the older folks (as you so described yourself) would speak and write better I wouldn't have so many kids in my classroom who use incorrect verbs (verbally and written). Seen would be correctly used if it is in sentences such as: That is yet to be seen. It will be seen be all. Seen must always be preceeded by the word "be" and should never be used directly after a pronoun. I was simply pointing out to you (since you are on a thread about spelling) that your subject and verb should be "I saw". You obviously must have mis-typed saw to be seen since your typing skills are lacking. (Message edited by detroitteacher on April 14, 2007) (Message edited by detroitteacher on April 14, 2007) |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 1353 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 7:36 am: | |
Detroitteacher- Are you drilling those kids in the correct use of apostrophes? That is my biggest grammar pet peeve. Even older people seem to have forgotten how to use them. It's an epidemic. |
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher
Post Number: 1005 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 12:46 pm: | |
Most of the kids I get in classes don't use apostrophes at all. I have a whole lesson on using the apostrophe. |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 83 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 2:13 pm: | |
" You obviously must have mis-typed saw to be seen since your typing skills are lacking" Actually I think I May have forgotten to put the word "Had" between "I" and "Seen". So perhaps you should stick to Teaching rather then Mind reading or Joke Telling. The Word for Today is "Tolerance". Seems that the More Skill's one acquires, The less Tolerance one shows for others. This is a Forum for everyone, Not just the upper-crust. I'm Sure there are many others that watch this all unfold everyday, That would like to join in, and have much to offer about Detroit. But see how if they don't conform to certain standards they will be Targets instead of contributors? Some that have "Been" here fell into the same trap, and took it for so long before a Breaking Point was Reached and things Happened that were not Necessarily great for DetYes. I for one Missed out on many exchanges of information because I was only a lurker instead of Forumer at the time they were here! Who comes to DetYes to learn Spelling ? I come to Keep up with what is going on in my Hometown, Not to write a term paper. But in fact everyone is forced to Tolerate things daily, that you can't do anything about. For instance, Call a Company, What do you get- "Press 1 for English, Press 2 for Spanish" Why is Not Everything English and when did Spanish move in front of German, Polish, French and so on? In the United States of America we adapt for the Masses, ( even to the point of putting Braille on drive up tellers) The Masses do not need to worry about conforming to Proper English But in a Public Forum you Try anyway. If a Mexican who is trying to learn English and post something here and answers something with "Sea" instead of "Si" or "Yes", will you not be able to still understand what is being said without slapping his wrist ? I will, because I understand that everyone is Different and learns Different things in different places. Tolerance |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 84 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 2:41 pm: | |
And as I said, I do not type as fast as I think , and am always finding myself leaving thing's out that are at some point in my train of thought. Detroitteacher, did you proof read your post or is my Tolerance of you suppose to let this stay as is? you said- "Seen would be correctly used if it is in sentences such as: That is yet to be seen. It will be seen be all." "will be seen BE all" Funny, that is how kids seem to say it now, just saying ! |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 85 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 3:26 pm: | |
Detroitteacher said, and I just wanted to post here before it gets "Edited" for the third time. "SEEN is not the correct form of the verb "to see" to be used with a first person pronoun. Perhaps if the older folks (as you so described yourself) would speak and write better I wouldn't have so many kids in my classroom who use incorrect verbs (verbally and written). Seen would be correctly used if it is in sentences such as: That is yet to be seen. It will be seen be all. Seen must always be preceeded by the word "be" and should never be used directly after a pronoun. I was simply pointing out to you (since you are on a thread about spelling) that your subject and verb should be "I saw". You obviously must have mis-typed saw to be seen since your typing skills are lacking. (Message edited by detroitteacher on April 14, 2007) (Message edited by detroitteacher on April 14, 2007) The first point you made was if us older folks would speak and write better , your job would I presume be a lot easier. I guess teaching kid's with no parents is out of the question? second point is after 2 Edited post you still had not 1 but 2 Misspelled words , (Seen must always be "preceeded ") well , OK then. I'm not trying to school you here, Just pointing out that we are more alike then you may ever want to admit. |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 9356 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 4:39 pm: | |
Detroitteacher, please post that lesson here. Some people need a refresher and some people need to be taught how to use an apostrophe. |
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit
Post Number: 1043 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 4:57 pm: | |
The word seen is the past participle of the verb see. "To see" is not the verb, but is the infinitival clause. Seen can be used with other variants such as was, have and is, and therefore not only with the word be. "us older folks" should be "we older folks" "teaching kid's" should be "teaching kids" |
Cheddar_bob Member Username: Cheddar_bob
Post Number: 921 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 5:00 pm: | |
quote: I do not type as fast as I think You could probably type faster if you didn't unnecessarily hit the caps lock key to capitalize words like tolerance, not, missed, different, and spelling. Just stick to capitalizing the first word of a sentence and proper nouns and I think you'll see your typing rate skyrocket. Just a suggestion. |
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher
Post Number: 1006 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 7:16 pm: | |
For the apostrophe challenged: *Apostrophes are used in contractions to indicate that one or more letters have been left out of a word such as didn't to mean did not and would've for would HAVE (it's not "would of" as rag mis-typed again). *Apostrophes are also used to make nouns possessive, to show ownership. When nouns are singular, we generally add an apostrophe and the letter "S" to indicate possession such as Jeremy's dollar. *When singular or plural nouns end with the letter "S," we most often drop the final "S" after the apostrophe such as Doris'mother *Its and It's - This is perhaps the most confusing aspect of apostrophe usage, but it's really quite easy to determine whether or not an apostrophe belongs... "It's" is a contraction; it's the shortened form of "it is." such as It's a nice day. "Its" is a possessive pronoun. We use "its" to indicate possession by something nonhuman, or which has no defined male or female gender such as the dog wags its tail. (Message edited by detroitteacher on April 14, 2007) |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 1895 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 7:45 pm: | |
Thanks, Detroitteacher! A few resources: English grammar, Dr. Grammar - Frequently Asked Questions. I like Lowell's idea of reforming the language to make it more intuitive. (Sorry, George Orwell.) Is there a definitive grammatical authority on the web? |
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba
Post Number: 5213 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 8:06 pm: | |
ROTFLMJAO. jjaba. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 1897 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 8:10 pm: | |
I guess that means no. |
Ragtoplover59 Member Username: Ragtoplover59
Post Number: 86 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 8:32 pm: | |
Tolerance. Yesterdays word - Respect. Tomorrows word - Knowledge. Thanks everybody, I will Learn |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 1902 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 9:03 pm: | |
That's the spirit! Laugh, learn, play. |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 1354 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 1:23 pm: | |
Keep up the good work, Det.Teach. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 3044 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 2:15 pm: | |
Knowing more than a few personnel officers over the years... They are fairly representative when they say they may tolerate ONE spelling (or grammatical) error in a cover letter or resume. However, two or more such errors literally means the trash heap unless the potential employee possesses very unique talents that the other applicants do not possess. Many of the undereducated will never know why they were turned down for the jobs they really wanted. Employers rarely will disclose such reasons. |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 989 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 3:33 pm: | |
What if they have impeccable grammar, but really offensive BO at the time of the interview? |