Post Number: 4289
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 11:47 am: || |
What will Southeast Michigan be like in the year 2037? What are your predictions? Give it some thought.
Post Number: 1382
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 11:51 am: || |
Well, I'll be 101 so I guess I don't much give a care.
Post Number: 104
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 12:38 pm: || |
The research capital of the world. Energy being the main focus.
Post Number: 19
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 12:56 pm: || |
Post Number: 105
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 12:58 pm: || |
Yeah, that's the kind of enthusiasm this city needs!
Post Number: 46
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 1:04 pm: || |
Think Appalachia but flatter.
Post Number: 88
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 1:25 pm: || |
It's really impossible to say what an area will look like in 30 years.
As an analogy, a person thinking forward in Michigan in 1890 would have been extremely hard pressed to envision what Michigan would be like in 1920; similarly, someone viewing in 1970 probably could not begin to envision the situation in 2000. Perhaps a vision of the state would look like in 2020 would have a greater chance of accuracy.
By 2020, the flux in the auto industry should have ended - the consolidations, buy-outs, off-shoring of jobs, and / or bankruptcies should be completed. We will have a good idea of how much auto industry remains in this state. My guess is that we will still have administrative and management functions here (although not as much as currently), high-end research labs such as the ones at the Tech Center, and some of the high-end, boutique cars, such as Cadillac and Viper.
The population of the City of Detroit should not only stabilize by then, but maybe even bounce up a little bit to 900,000.
Post Number: 139
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 2:08 pm: || |
"Underwater" - Al Gore
Post Number: 433
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 2:11 pm: || |
I predict the central Detroit core centered around downtown and midtown will have developed substantially-commercially and residentially. People moving to central Detroit will no longer be unique or pioneerish in any way-especially for younger people and empty nesters. The Detroit school system will be much leaner but will actually have marked improvement since its days in the first decade of the 21st century.
The outlying areas of Detroit and the majority of inner-ring suburbs will blend into each other having very similar challenges with blight, disinvestment, crime and similar demographics. The exception to this will be the suburbs bordering Woodward Avenue as Woodward will continue and even become more of an anchor of the Metropolitan area from the river to Pontiac and the closer you get to this lifeline, the higher the property value.
The population of the Metro will have grown-very minimally. Sprawl will still be occurring but not like it was 40 years before. Instead more people will be looking at redevelopment, especially near the lakes, the riverfront and the Woodward corridor.
Post Number: 50
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 2:29 pm: || |
I agree with just about everything you have said. I also think that the Michigan Ave. Corridor will see reinvestment and growth, especially if we get some sort of rail transit along there between AA and Detroit. I also think that communities like Northville and Plymouth, with good centralized walkable downtowns will do well.
Post Number: 55
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 3:29 pm: || |
The Detroit Core will thrive... CBD and Midtown will be considered desirable places to live. Downtown will offer all of the features of any major downtown. Many neighborhoods in the city will have recovered... but at the same time many will be far worse off than they are now. In addition to that suburbs like Southfield, Livonia and perhaps even Novi will resemble the current ghetto's of Detroit.
DPS will not exist, all schools in the city will be charter or parochial. Most city services will be outsourced. GM will not exist and the RenCen will be converted to the most desirable lofts in Detroit. And finally, but certainly not least, MCS will finally serve some use to the community.
Post Number: 870
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 5:14 pm: || |
I think that the east riverfront will be the most desired place to live in metro detroit. There will be some sort of rail line from Ann Arbor to DTW to downtown, and a Woodward line will be under consideration and design. I will have moved back to Detroit (along with 100,000 other people) and found a good architecture job in my favorite city.
Post Number: 41
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 5:48 pm: || |
The neutron diminishers will be sawed off our hovercrafts when we park and sold for their unobtanium.
Post Number: 2064
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 6:48 pm: || |
Post Number: 807
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 7:18 pm: || |
Anybody can "Give it some thought" and "blue-sky" a rosy prediction of SE Michigan in 2037. However, they are nothing more than empty words unless you are also willing to identify and support some structural changes that must happen in order to make your vision a reality.
"If I were king", by long before 2037, MI would be a right-to-work state; all govt. and education employees would have defined contribution pension plans and employee/retiree health care plans comparable to the private sector; term-limits for elected officials would be abolished; the state legislature would meet for no more than 6 months per year and be paid accordingly; all state and local government spending would be prioritized based on how effectively it provides for the health, safety and welfare of its citizens; data-driven community policing would be the norm and all quality-of-life ordinances would be enforced; there would be only one bus system operating in the tri-county Metro Detroit area and its demonstrated competent operation would enable the critical mass of political support needed to plan and build a regional mass transit system....
Post Number: 1267
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 7:43 pm: || |
The nation's largest ghost town
Think it cant happen? Do some research and find out how many there really are... you might be suprised to see that there are so many.
Post Number: 746
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 7:45 pm: || |
Mayor Sekou will be in office leading Detroit's charge to become the greatest city on the earth.
Post Number: 1268
|Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 7:58 pm: || |
I dunno... if enough investment comes in here all at once... it wouldnt be that hard to start a full scale building boom in the heart of the city.
Post Number: 340
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 11:42 am: || |
The region's overall forecast is one of steady, moderate growth from 2000-2030. Population will grow 12 percent to 5.4 million by 2030. Households will increase twice as fast, 21 percent over 30 years, as the average number of persons per household declines and all the increase in households will be in households without children. The aging of the baby boom generation (which will be 65 or older in 2030), as well as longer life spans, mean that 37 percent of all households will be elderly in 2030 (that is, these households will have at least one person 65 or older). Job growth will not be as robust as in the 1990s, but will increase 16 percent 2000-2030. However, future job growth depends on many more older people staying in the labor force, with many in part-time jobs.
At the community level, Southeast Michigan will grow most strongly at the edges of the urban area, where land is available and jobs are within commuting distance. Household growth will be strongest in western Wayne County, the Ann Arbor area, southeast Livingston County, western and northern Oakland County, and central Macomb County. Population growth will follow the same general pattern, of course. However, because of fewer persons per household and relatively modest amounts of new housing construction, the mature suburbs of Detroit will lose population. Detroit's historic rates of household and population loss have slowed considerably and this will continue.
The pattern of job growth will be generally similar to households, although not as spread out to the west and north. Job growth will be concentrated in fewer suburban communities, reflecting the stronger role of transportation access and central location for jobs. Areas of the City of Detroit with job losses will be increasingly balanced by areas of job growth, resulting in near stability for city job numbers post-2020.
So sayeth SEMCOG.
Post Number: 3080
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:19 pm: || |
SEMCOG can and will say whatever they will because its individual members won't be around or remembered to eat their words when thirty years pass and few, if any, of their predictions pan out...
SEMCOG speaks in general terms (BS, actually). Why don't they make specific predictions instead of idle cheerleading? The major reason is that SEMCOG's vision for the future is much less accurate than a much more predictable five- or ten-day weather forecast. And how many such forecasts actually materialize?
Just about anything emanating from a bloated, fiscally unsustainable public sector should be considered as being bogus self-serving, wishful thinking. Consider reality for once:
Comerica and the drug facility in Ann Arbor are moving out. Chrysler may be around--but not as it was even ten years ago. Major Tier auto companies are in bankruptcy and many more will follow due to fundamental permanent shifts in the national and international workplaces. DPS is downsizing and many more Detroit residents will flee over the years.
Big deal! A casino plans to hire a thousand or so workers while the region's overall unemployment figures are essentially unaffected by that and will get worse. Many more jobs will be lost for every new job created. And fewer taxpayers will be around in order to pay for the excesses of the public sector in Detroit, Wayne County, and the state of Michigan.
Post Number: 113
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:25 pm: || |
Patrick, we have to get past 2012 first, Nostradamus, the Myans and other lumanaries are saying it will be the end of life on earth as we know it.....
Post Number: 504
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:31 pm: || |
What will Southeast Michigan be like in the year 2037?
Post Number: 3081
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:35 pm: || |
I seem to remember the BS expected to occur as a result of the Gregorian calendar reaching 2000. Another big yawner is due in 2012. Still, I expect the sale of aluminum foil to increase in 2011...
Post Number: 4295
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:41 pm: || |
-Population is 755,000
-Detroit Lions are bought by Donald Trump’s daughter and moved to Las Vegas
-Warren’s population is 75% African American.
-Ferndale slides back into its blue-collar roots and becomes a slum
-Detroit’s downtown is swelled with young white professionals looking for that lofty urban edge….most drive Volvos and Saabs.
-Detroit attempts and fails miserably at a bid for the Olympic Games….mostly due to Mayor Joel Loving’s harsh mouth and poor sandwich-making capabilities.
-Wayne State is finally a world-class university and its library system has been scanned by Google.
-Toyota builds a testing facility on the site of Rouge Park
-The Tuskegee Airmen Museum goes broke and closes.
-Oakland University tears down Meadowbrook Hall because it costs too much to maintain
-The Edsel Ford estate and the Moorings are both demolished to make way for trendy condos.
Post Number: 507
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:47 pm: || |
Pretty generous on that population estimate Patrick. I would think closer to 350,000.
Post Number: 114
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:50 pm: || |
If we can make it past 2012 then another 25 years of Global Economics should pretty much be the end of America as we have known it....
With all manual labor being performed by Hispanics here and Chinese and Indians overseas...I see Detroit and similar situations becoming 3rd world entities...
Doesn't have to come to that but I don't see our Government, present or future, being able to cope with the Global Economic dilema...
I could see Detroit becoming another Mogadishu...
Americas great potential for Food production may be a way out for some of us...time will tell.
Missing American Idol for a week is Traumatic enough for most of us, how could we be expected to deal with real Socio-Eco difficulties...
Post Number: 2423
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:53 pm: || |
I hate these SEMCOG forecasts. They make up a lot of goofy predictions, then policy is set based on the predictions and--voila! The predictions become self-fulfilling! What a shocker.
Post Number: 36
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 4:57 pm: || |
It will be like War of the Worlds:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =x0dJm9ec2lU
Post Number: 8952
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 5:02 pm: || |
I hate these SEMCOG forecasts. They make up a lot of goofy predictions, then policy is set based on the predictions and--voila! The predictions become self-fulfilling! What a shocker.
Absolutely correct. Their studies are used to justify/support where infrastructure costs go, road improvments, etc.
Post Number: 529
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 6:28 pm: || |
"I could see Detroit becoming another Mogadishu... "
One of the best sources I've found for future predictions:
I'm a native Detroiter, with four generations in the city, but sadly, if the nation as a whole goes the way I think it will, I don't think it will bode well for my hometown.
What is sad is that by 2037, no one alive will remember the Detroit of my mother's childhood. I will be 60 that year, and I was born 10 years after the riots.
But by 2037, I think the world will be a very different place than it is now, much more different than it was 30 years ago, the year I was born, 1977. That's because I subscribe to the generational theories of Strauss and Howe (again, refer to above site), and pretty much believe that the Boomers and we Xers are going to deep-six America as we know it. Still a relevant nation -- no longer the global leader, but diminished. It'll be sort of like what Britain is today, and by 2200, people will talk about the American Century the way we talk about the Spanish el siglo del oro...
Post Number: 759
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 6:30 pm: || |
I just hope we dont have to live through a Chinese century, that would worry me.
Post Number: 191
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:09 pm: || |
The United States' status as a "world-power" will be highly threatened, which will directly affect Detroit.
Blacks will be stuck in the suburbs, while whites become the majority of the inner-city and realize the beauty of this city. (Blacks will be angered that they got in their position by chasing the hand-me-downs of suburbia.)
The Latino population will have exploded. Spanish will be a lot more common and will exceed the boundaries of southwest Detroit.
The population of Detroit will be well above the one-million mark.
Detroit will have made attempts to diversify its economy, instead of relying soley on the automobile industry.
Post Number: 1041
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:10 pm: || |
Hopefully we will still be alive and have a safe environment to live in.
Post Number: 1390
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:14 pm: || |
We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future.
Post Number: 1042
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:16 pm: || |
^^^^You're sounding like the people who made those PSA's about the Global Warming.
Post Number: 5853
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 12:21 pm: || |
Good prediction but here's what I think about Detroit's and rest of southeastern Michigan:
-Detroit's population made its early rebound from 755,000 in the 2030 U.S. Census to 826,000.
-The Black population is not only 75% in Warren, but also other inner ring suburbs that border Detroit has reached over 70% or more blacks:
REDFORD TWP, SOUTHFIELD, OAK PARK, LATHRUP VILLAGE, R.O.TWP.(annexed to Oak Park) , FERNDALE, HAZEL PARK, FARMINGTON HILLS, LIVONIA, WEST BLOOMFIELD AND BLOOMFIELD TWP. BERKLEY, PLEASANT RIDGE, CENTER LINE, EASTPOINTE, ROSEVILLE, ST. CLAIR SHORES, GROSSE POINTE HEIGHTS (formally Harper Woods), RIVER ROUGE, ECORSE, LINCOLN PARK, MELVINDALE, DEARBORN HEIGHTS, WESTLAND, VAN BUREN TWP. INKSTER, WAYNE, PONTIAC, WATERFORD TWP. TAYLOR, ROMULUS, ALLEN PARK, GARDEN CITY, YPSILANTI AND YPSILANTI TWP. MT, CLEMENS AND CLINTON TWP.
-more suburban sprawl all the way up to 35 mile Rd.
- more white-folks, Arabs, Hispanics, and east Indians will inhabit most of the lower west and east sides of Detroit starting with Downtown Detroit.
Downtown Detroit is almost finish with its business development. Lofts and Condos between $450,990 to $1,750,000.
-most black communities in Detroit are at NW side and NE side near the suburbs.
- Detroit Lions the the Super Bowl for the 5th straight time thanks to QB Micheal Fontenot who made 10 touchdown passes.
-Detroit Tigers lost their second chance to clich the AL-CS division. Their record. 77 wins 90 loses
-Detroit Shock lost the WNBA Playoffs to the L.A. Sparks.
-Detroit Red Wings lost the Stanley Cup Finals to the Grand Rapids Thunderhawks. Thunderhawks won their 3rd Stanley Cup in 2 years.
-Detroit Pistons are in their 10 year losing season with a WORST record in NBA history 20 wins 86 loses.
-Detroit has a first Hispanic Mayor Jorge Ramirez.
- The Detroit Public Schools are ranked number 1# all academic education in the United States with over 140,000 students and 200 public school buildings. The students scored higher in their
MEAP and SAT's.
-Michigan's unemployment rate is in its lowest in 15 years with 1.9% Detroit's unemployment rate is low with 2% thanks to increasing international and intergalactic free trade age proposals from Democratic U.S. President John Bloomberg.
-The Michigan Legislature is mostly Democratic with a Independent Governor named Walter McFarland (Black). Walter McFarland is Michigan's first black governor.
-Charter Schools are losing more student enrollment in 11 years. Most Charter Schools are closing.
-Michigan's Arab and East Indian population has increased. There are over 1,535,034 Arabs and 1,098,786 Indians. all of them live around every county except few parts of the northern U.P.
Post Number: 885
|Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 9:06 pm: || |
The US population is booming. It is the fastest growing industrialized country. There will be 100 million more people by 2037 and I think they will be moving to established areas with infrastructure and water, including older cities like Detroit.
Detroit will have more people from Asia and Mexcio. The downtown will be successful.