Post Number: 9
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 5:59 pm: || |
Anybody see the restored B-17 fly over yesterday? It was about 2 pm Sunday afternoon in the northern suburbs. I was wondering what the occasion was because I understand that there are only a few of those in existence with only one or two being in Michigan. The shiny aluminum aircraft body gleaming in the bountiful sunlight was a beautiful sight to see. The sounds of the engines roaring at a cool pace reminded me how proud I am to be an American knowing what that airplane contributed to this country during WWII. I think alot of them, if not all of them, were built here in Detroit too. Truly a genuine piece of Detroit "muscle" that deserves mention in this thread. Does anybody know why it was flying yesterday and where it was going?
Post Number: 6252
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 6:43 pm: || |
It belongs to the Yankee Air Museum at Willow Run.
It flies fairly often, you can ever hire it for a flight.
Here it is last summer.
Post Number: 156
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 6:52 pm: || |
Sonny Eliot out for a joyride?
Post Number: 38
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:09 pm: || |
We live about 10 miles from Selfridge and are used to jets and helicopters flying around our area. But the sight of that beautiful aircraft flying in the skies yesterday was something to see.
Post Number: 1271
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:20 pm: || |
I saw it yesterday as well.. kool shit to see a 70 year old aircraft..
Post Number: 368
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:34 pm: || |
Luv313, if you clicked the link provided, you will learn that the B-17 is the 'Flying Fortress'. The Willow Run built B-24 was the 'Liberator’. I have seen the B-17 pictured fly due west over 9-Mile Road many times. Both aircraft flew missions over Europe in the Second World War.
Post Number: 517
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:15 pm: || |
Both also flew in the Pacific, but the B-17 only early in the War.
Post Number: 1063
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:22 pm: || |
July 7th and 8th you will be able to see the following at Willow Run:
That will be a hell of a sight to see them come in. I had a chance to see the planes land during the bomboer symposium
Post Number: 32
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:53 pm: || |
One of the finest men (Robert S. Tower) I ever knew was a pilot of one of those birds during WWII...he was shot down over Holland and spent 3 years in a POW camp...I was privileged to work for him in the '60's...Warren Woods Tower High School is named for him.
Post Number: 369
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 11:16 pm: || |
Love these old planes, I think they're amazing and I am a huge fan of old military nose art. My mother, on the other hand, not a fan. She was a little kid in the Netherlands during WWII; she had difficulties watching Band of Brothers as the sounds (tons of planes rumbling over head) bring back those frightening memories for her.
Post Number: 295
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 11:18 pm: || |
I would absolutely love to see that event! Alas, I live hundreds of miles away. Some day, I plan on saving the money and going on a ride in a B-17. It would be a truly awesome experience. For this non-Detroiter, where exactly is Willow Run?
Post Number: 6254
|Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 11:35 pm: || |
Post Number: 223
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 10:45 am: || |
Plenty of B25s in the lineup for the July 7-8 event--http://www.yankeeairmuseum.org /airshow/aircraft.htm, but no B24 Liberators.
Is the B24 that difficult to restore, or were they all scrapped after the war?
Post Number: 296
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 10:52 am: || |
Thanks for the map, Aiw. Sounds like it will be a great show!
Post Number: 50
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 1:48 pm: || |
of the 18,000+ B-24s, many many were scrapped. there were many hundreds of B-17s flown from the Wichita Boeing plant to Altus AFB in Oklahoma to be taken back apart and sold for scrap. im sure there were many '24s done this way as well...
the Yankee Lady (829) was at one time the only B-17 with functional superturbochargers. they are about $200,000 each to rebuild (in 1992 dollars). since these planes are no longer flown in the flight levels requiring the performance enhancement the 'chargers provide, most owners forego the expense...
the museum, when they started to restore the Lady, decided "hey, we live and play in the greatest industrial area in the world. why dont we get some corporate sponsorship to help get these 'chargers rebuilt." the museum ended up with 6 or 7 completely rebuilt (zero-timed) superturbo chargers for FREE. or so ive been told...
Post Number: 2079
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 1:51 pm: || |
The Blue Angels were supposed to be at the Willow Run show this year - have they cancelled their season or are they still a go?
Post Number: 1475
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 2:31 pm: || |
http://www.michigan.gov/homela nd/0,1607,7-173-23616-164605-- ,00.html
Post Number: 312
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 4:02 pm: || |
Here are some pics I shot at Willow Run in 2005.
Four B-17's flying the "Missing Man" formation.
It was billed as the largest gathering of B-17's since the end of the war. The most amazing part was standing behind the row of planes before they taxied. Nearly blew us over. I couldn't imagine sorties consisting of literally 1000 of these planes in the air at once.
Post Number: 2615
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 4:41 pm: || |
It was probably part of this.
The exhibit is very well done and is still going on if anyone is interested in attending.
Admission is free, but donations are encouraged.
Post Number: 1733
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 5:02 pm: || |
I, too, love these old warbirds and have gone from Maine to Oregon just to see them both on the ground and in the sky. And there are still representative B-17's, 24's, 25's and even a B-29 that still take to the air at various airshows.
Unfortunately,my favorite, the much maligned twin engine medium bomber, the Martin B-26 Marauder, is no longer flying as Kermit Weeks, warbird owner down in Polk City,Florida has elected to keep this rare old warrior on the ground though it was the last of several thousand built for the war effort that was still certified to fly. It probably has lost its certification by now, but still remains a very attractive static display at his museum there. There are only about 7 or so of the Martins left in various museums.
I've been aboard Week's Marauder in Oshkosh, WI at the huge EAA Airshow where she then flew, and have been to Polk City on three different occasions since just to say hello.
My uncle's B-26 was named Malarkey during the war. He was a Captain-pilot, but when he came home following VE Day, his beloved old Malarkey was left behind to be scrapped to help rebuild Germany as were so many of those old bombers. First they took the engines off, then they just blew 'em up with charges of dynamite, row after row after row.
Post Number: 2071
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 5:05 pm: || |
Luv313, I'm not sure whether or not I saw that particular plane fly over.
The one I saw had the same silhouette, definitely with four engines, flying due east at low altitude over northern Utica. It looked dark gray to me, not shiny, but that may have been because of my viewing angle. It was definitely not a commercial paint job.
Post Number: 10
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 5:28 pm: || |
Yes, Jimaz, that was the one. It was the same one in the picture that AIW posted up, because I remember the red tail with the "L" on it.
Thanks for posting up all the information, guys; I'm definitely going to that air show in July. It'll probably bring back memories of me and my grandpa going to air shows and him telling me all kinds of stories about the planes; you know how grandparents are.
Post Number: 2075
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 5:44 pm: || |
Luv313, thanks. Well, what do you know. I wish I could have known ahead of time. I'd have had a camera ready!
Post Number: 11
|Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 5:59 pm: || |
I was just driving down the road and happened to look up. I swerved off to the side of the road into somebody's front yard and took in the moment.
Post Number: 1
|Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 1:13 am: || |
I happened to see a B-17 flying quite low over San Rafael CA. I looked up a tour schedule and found out it was on its way to visit the Napa County Airport. What a sight! The roar of its engines was unforgettable.
Post Number: 1740
|Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 9:12 am: || |
The Yankee Lady will be taking to the air again on Monday May 28 at the Yankee Air Museum Open House and again on July 6 and 7 at the Thunderfest Air Show.
Post Number: 25
|Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 11:14 am: || |
Where is the Thunderfest Air Show?
Post Number: 319
|Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 1:10 pm: || |
I recall seeing that plane flying over in the past few years. The sound is awesome. That is some real american iron or should I say aluminum! I love hearing the stories about them being shot to s#!t and still flying home. Hats off to our parents and grandparents built and flew these things that helped win the war!
Post Number: 1741
|Posted on Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 2:46 pm: || |
The Thunderfest(Thunder over Michigan) Air Show is the name of the air show conducted annually by the Yankee Air Museum. The website is yankeeairmuseum.com and you should be able to get the details there. It is a two day event, and is one of the best airshows in the country.