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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 8:49 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Because you never know the potency of the weed you scam from those you pull over, mutherfucker.

Legalize It, NOW.


Give those who wish to relive their youthful indiscretions a fighting chance to build up a tolerance, at least.


quote:

911: Dearborn Heights emergency...
Sanchez: Can you please send rescue to "bleep". I think I'm having an overdose. and so is my wife.
911: Overdose of what?
Sanchez: Marijuana.
Sanchez: We made brownies. and I think we're dead. I really do.
Sanchez: What's the score in the Red Wings game?
911: I've got no clue, i don't watch the Red Wings.
Sanchez: I just wanted to make sure this isn't some kind of hallucination I'm having.




Guy was a damned CORPORAL! He probably finally realized that all the people he pulled over carrying weed were actually pretty OK folk...and after years of toeing the company line decided to be like...us.
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Thejesus
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 8:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that's f-ing hilarious!
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Karl
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 10:07 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You mean like you, Gannon.
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 10:18 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, no, dear dare Karl. In my experience travelling around the country, I am legion. I am not alone, it is certainly a 'we', not a 'me'.

If we are simply speaking of the ganja-friendly crowd...yanno, the one this officer was apparently wanting to be a part of until he sampled the goods, and found out that potency IS up from twenty years ago, all a side benefit of the 'war' on drugs!


For THAT, I must thank my political adversaries, although I understand it was an unintended side-effect!
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That was pretty funny.

Sounds like there was something more than weed in those brownies...
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 10:30 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Weed might not mix well with high fructose corn syrup...they should've made those brownies from scratch.

You've GOT to up the moisture to account for the increased dry leafy content...or simply make marijuana butter first to gain most of the THC without the carrier messing up the mix.

Can't do any of that with a premix...plus the shortcutting really truncates the input of positive energy, so the final product would HAVE to suffer!
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm glad karl is not part of the "us"...

(Message edited by defendbrooklyn on May 10, 2007)
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If only...they don't know what they're missing.
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 11:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's not possible to OD on weed. God knows I tried when I was a young guy.
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Tompage
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 11:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope that Kym Worthy, Wayne County Prosecutor, steps in and prosecutes this former Dearborn police officer. He is a disgrace to law enforcement. Firing is not sufficient punishment. And I say that as a 25 year vet of law enforcement (retired LAPD).
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

legalize it already, and by that 911 call that sounds like he had some good shit
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 11:51 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

We made brownies. and I think we're dead. I really do.



Why do you think they call it dope?
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Sstashmoo
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 11:55 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gannon, speaking from experience as well, every person I've ever known that used pot on a regular basis, their personal life is/was a disaster. I don't know of one person that this doesn't hold true for.

Since you gravitate towards these types, don't claim there are "legions". I know very few people that drug it daily. And thankfully the young folks coming up are seeing dope smokers as total losers on the whole.

You say legalize it NOW, I say stiffen the penalties and start enforcing it. And while there at it do something about all the bullshit alcohol ads on TV. They took cigarette ads off years ago its time to do the same with the even more dangerous drug. I never knew anyone that mistreated their loved ones (other than withdrawals), lost everything and wound up in rehab over cigarettes.

I used to smoke and drink both excessively, I know exactly what I'm missing. I quit both before they caused me any real problems.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 11:57 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Gannon, speaking from experience as well, every person I've ever known that used pot on a regular basis, their personal life is/was a disaster. I don't know of one person that this doesn't hold true for. "

Define "regular basis"...
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tompage,

Welcome. I appreciate your sentiment, but you are talking about a personal use prohibition exactly like the one that DECADES ago was proven to be non-supportable by the populace. (and THAT one a constitutional amendment!)

The government agency tasked with suppressing the alcohol market was dissolved, and their most famous employee, Elliot Ness, went on to work for the NEXT best grab into our personal freedoms, the Internal Revenue Service.



That ANY within government and law enforcement perpetuate these stupid laws is a disgrace, it proves that they don't think for themselves.


Of course, they are not expected to do anything but the bidding of their overlords...we still need to protect those fledgling nylon rope and wood-paper industries...and obviously keep the 'war-on-drugs' machine income stream rolling.


Give me a break.



Pam,
Heh, just because a fellow and his wife mistake a glimpse of peace and comfort...as they've probably been sold on their hopefully heavenly future...and they THINK they must be dead, doesn't make them dopes.
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sstashmoo,


I meet wildly successful individuals often in my travels, at ALL levels of life...within various political persuasions and religious/spiritual recognitions...and when the topic is breached and my strong stance is voiced, I get a surprising number of folks who will take me aside and tell me they agree completely with me...but in order to maintain their public lifestyle without complication they have to keep their drug use well under wraps.


I'm not talking about ABUSE, something you are obviously well aware of...and I reference your admission of 'excessive use'...because I can add that those I know who drink more than four drinks a day have unsettled lives as well as those who will smoke a half-dozen joints in one night. (but I know functional pot-heads, too, one specifically comes to mind who was previously a two-fifth a day Vodka drinker, dunno how he did it then and still don't know how he does it now)

Those weed users I know who smoke a few hits off a joint after work, or take one hit occasionally for self-medication, are SO much better off than the legal heavy drinkers...you are comparing apples and oranges out of YOUR personal experience. (as am I, don't think I don't know that)


I do not 'gravitate' towards those who toke. Surely I am more comfortable around those who agree with me, but do NOT make it a point to surround myself with potheads...just like I do not surround myself with only those who agree with me. How boring a life would THAT be?!!


No need to gravitate towards anyone, they are just THERE. When you are honest and open with them, they will reveal what they've been hiding all along. Often, when the more liberal of their personalities shine, we can come to some compromise on other issues we previously had been at loggerheads over...funny how that works out.


Cheers!
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Ray1936
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 12:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


sticker
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Sstashmoo
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 12:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quote: "Define "regular basis"..."

Google "Immodium AD"
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Sstashmoo
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gannon,

Your claim and I respect it is essentially, an alarming number of people are actually drug users and keep it hid. And I'm a bit naive for thinking otherwise. The former doesn't hold water, the latter...

Almost every workplace in this metro area and nationwide for that matter requires drug testing. An insurance requirement, not their choice. Very few ever test positive. I know a lot of business owners and not one of them has ever said "Man this drug testing is killing us, we're losing alot of good people" I have heard "We tested so and so and he was positive, good deal, we've been looking for an excuse to get rid of him" Hard truth, but truth none the less. Because he's the same guy that never gave a shit about anything, missing time. Poor attitude, etc.

And yes there are several felons in high ranks of society, no surprise, and yes many folks are wildly successful in business and function with drug addictions. But I did say "personal" life.

No offense, It's the people you hang with.
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Tompage
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 2:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, Gannon, I am talking about a police officer who was sworn to uphold the law, who promised to live by the Law Enforcement Code of Ethics, who allegedly confiscated evidence for his own use. This officer disgraced not only himself, but his profession. It matters little to me if the controverted evidence was marijuana (not the benign substance you believe it is), cocaine, or child porn for that matter. This former Dearborn officer should be prosecuted, and not just fired.
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 2:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The drug-test-beating industry is growing. Leaps and bounds, as the dragnet of illegal testing increases. I've known several very key productive people that have been quietly allowed to continue working at their firms after testing positive for marijuana use. Firms couldn't afford to let them go!!

The powers that be can not let that news out, just like they cannot allow most to know when a firearm is used to defend against crime...it goes against their agenda, so it is not allowed to prosper!


Heh.


Plus, the number of bitter folks who would RATHER be able to imbibe must be huge as well, given the number of jealous folk around me. Some chime in with stories of my idiosyncracies, but I'm a unique case, my personality quirks were well ingrained MANY years before my first toke.


Goes 'round and 'round. You've only got fifty-odd years of complacent populace behavior behind you...lots of time to stack the deck with bullshit to keep the sheople in line.


Funny that, in fifty-odd years they haven't made a DENT in 'useful' drug use for those who think for themselves. Without it and the more common alcohol and tobacco and caffeine vents, this pressure cooker would surely blast.

These things are necessary...and weed is so much more benign than alcohol...I'd much rather smoke than drink, one leads to an out-of-control situation on purpose...the other only when you're paranoid from the pressure propaganda or haven't imbibed in years. (or BOTH, right corporal!!).

Hell, the thing that takes the biggest bite out of MY productivity is WAY legal...this forum!


Cheers!
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 2:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the followup, Tompage.


Benign.


I agree with you on the sworn officer thing. How do you feel about the very common basic abuses many, if not MOST law enforcement officers partake in daily?!

It especially irks me when I see officers I personally KNOW taking liberties well outside the law, because they just know they will survive the blue wall of silence (and accommodation) afforded their possession of a badge and a little sticker somewhere on their vehicle that indicates they are an officer of the law (or fireman or whatever, you KNOW what I'm talking about).

EVEN in this case, the officer in question got a free ride so far...tell me that would be the case for anyone else calling 9-11 to check on the Red Wings score and admitting they've consumed pot nearly to saturation/hallucination?!

Worse when officers in marked vehicles flaunt basic driving laws...when not on a run. Burns my backside to see that sort of crap...so this sort of behavior is not shocking to me.


It has LONG been a quiet joke that cops always have the best weed. This has been the case in my experience, something I will NOT ever work to cease because it helps illuminate the insanity of these personal possession laws!!
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 2:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I'm not talking about ABUSE,"

This is really the key to the discussion. There is a difference between using and abusing. Many people abuse things that are legal (alcohol, cigarettes, food, weight loss drugs, the list goes on) and some people use but don't abuse things that are illegal, like the chief.
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Gistok
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 2:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think some of you have been watching too many old Saturday Night Live episodes of "Another Marijuana Related Death" episodes...

Marijuana and Alcohol are both drugs. Just one is illegal and one is not.

Sstashmoo (gotta love a moniker that has "stash" in it)... your generalization, if applied to alcohol, would mean that most folks in this country have ruined their lives, as well. As we all know NOT everyone has ruined their lives with alcohol.

In both cases, there's folks who have ruined their lives, and folks who have not. Not everyone has a problem... just those with certain addictive tendencies.
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Seth
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 3:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can hear the entire 911 call here.

It's a fantastic few minutes of unedited audio.
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 3:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Time is going by really, really slow".


Seth, thank you for this.


I'm going to have to see if I can get a copy of MY old 9-11 call to Bloomfield a few years back when my stuff was stolen from my car.


I'm thinking that this Sanchez fellow tripped his way up the ladder, I really truly hope there are not other police officers as stupid as this guy.


Odds aren't great...
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Sstashmoo
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Anyone whom buys a measure of god knows what from who knows who and ingests by whatever means directly into their bloodstream, loses credibility real quick, in a "whadda you know" debate.

Let me guess, drug dealers are more trustworthy than the FDA? Not to mention, when illegal drug purchases are made, the buyer is funding and precipitating some of the most ruthless people, groups and their activities on the planet. Pablo Escobar? He burnt people alive, impaled people, buried people alive, assassinated politicians etc. A true terrorist.

I never said everyone that drinks, ruins their life or dies, but a great many have. And it's a given they all could "quit anytime" they wanted or "they could handle it"

Quote ""The main active chemical in marijuana is THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol) . The membranes of certain nerve cells in the brain contain protein receptors that bind to THC. Once securely in place, THC kicks off a series of cellular reactions that ultimately lead to the high that users experience when they smoke marijuana. "

From this page:

http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofa cts/marijuana.html
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Holy crap that's hilarious!

This will be on Fark pretty quickly, I presume.
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Gistok
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are these the same folks that gave us the "Reefer Madness" movie in the 1950's?
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Tompage
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Gannon, as I wrote earlier, I believe this former Dearborn officer should be prosecuted to the fullest. Losing his job as a police officer for stealing evidence (of any sort) is not sufficient punishment. Most police officers that I know - and that's probably in the thousands - would want to see this former officer imprisoned, not just in an unemployment line.

If you believe that officers are taking "liberties" with the law, then report it. One phone call to Internal Affairs is all it takes.
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Gistok
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 5:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tompage... you know "thousands" of police officers?? That seems almost... hard to believe...
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 5:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stashcow,

Al Capone was one of the most ruthless killers the nation had ever seen. Even HE feared Detroit's own Purple Gang, who introduced the automatic weapon to gangland killings.

The government GAVE them their black market, JUST like our current one sustains it for the ruthless killers you so quickly want to highlight. (by keeping the product illegal to sell and consume publicly)


I accept your premise, that non-locally grown and sourced drugs can possibly fund bad people. Now? Let's put them out of business by legalizing it...and promoting a local marketplace for production and consumption.

Which is where we began. Thanks!






Oh bullshit, Tompage, last thing we need is for dozens upon dozens of Internal Affairs investigations going down.

I don't want these folk prosecuted and imprisoned...obviously there need be some form of punishment because they choose poorly, but keep them in the family. Keep a closer eye on them, but let them grow into better people who make better choices NEXT TIME. Given grace, people grow MORE loyal to the group. Plus, hopefully all could be properly compensated so monetary temptations are NOT a draw for them!

Prosecution and imprisonment don't solve anything, and do NOT allow the person to learn and grow...and re-enter society productively, nearly ever. If you are not a rehabilitation-minded person, then this will fall on deaf ears.

Those recidivist numbers? They are a reflection of the law-n-order society at large, with most avoiding anyone who happens to get convicted of anything...let alone daring to hire someone with a record.


Every cop looking over their shoulder, second guessing their every move?! Not a healthy work environment. Prosecution to put them in regular jail, even for a minute? They're dead men standing.

I cannot agree with you and your thousands of other war-hardened officers trained to be unyielding in the face of lawbreakers. All you've helped us achieve are fuller, larger prisons. At some point, you became the enemy of many simple people...just by donning the uniform! That needs to be addressed, but as you know even the most friendly officer loses their resiliency after even a few years on the streets.


Many officers do NOT follow the every one of the laws they promise to uphold. It may not be possible to do so, given the pace and temper of life nowadays, and the messy state of our current lawbooks. They are filled with stuff that doesn't affect civil society today, and these silly personal use drug laws are certainly a few of them.
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 5:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gistok,

It's the new math. :-)

I know "thousands" of people on myspace too..
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Gannon,

With your rationale, criminals are just victims of ridiculous laws. Hell, legalize everything. Send all the cops home, no courts, no jails. Yeah good plan. Homicide victims were just standing in the wrong place when the gun went off? A Libertarian, I take it.

Fortunately it doesn't work that way. I find it ironic, that the folks who wish Detroit to turn around are habitual law breakers themselves. They want something done about crime, except the crimes they're committing.

Adjust it to my lawlessness... Yeah that'll curb the current exodus. NOT

Too funny...
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 7:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Way to take it to illogical extremes. Won't get far with that crap with me.


Some in our jails ARE victims of ridiculous laws. NO way around it. Personal possession and use laws are ridiculous.


I find it ironic that you could turn my words into such tripe...where do you get that the folks who wish to turn the city around are habitual offenders themselves?!

Just because I choose to spark up some weed makes me complicit with those who steal, murder, carjack, and vote Republican?! Nah.


Cops are absolutely necessary, as are the courts. The jails could be reduced just with the release of petty drug offenders alone...too funny.
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know this point is moot, but since cops are drug and alcohol tested (as am I), this makes them even more dumber-er, but not dumbest-est as is the points made by Gannon.
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 7:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My discussion against prosecuting and jailing 'folk' was specifically aimed at policepeople.

They went through some sort of vetting process to GET that job, and not every person who applies can even HOPE to get one. The training is highly specialized, in many cases, and those who learn the ropes should STAY in the family unless they are found out to be working for criminal enterprises.

This guy just took some dope and consumed it. It is NOT the first time an officer did that, or else that comment on 'cops always having the best stuff' wouldn't stand. It won't be the last.


It is also not anywhere NEAR racketeering, embezzling, graft, corruption...let alone murder and assault...those are crimes that when officers commit they should be convicted harshly...and put in general population prison.

Simple drug possession doesn't fit the same depth of danger...not in ANY form or fashion. Same with open alcohol in the vehicle or driving over the saturation limit but not incapacitated...and a few of the other 'crimes' that the blue wall often looks the other way when encountering.


These folks work under stress in jobs that most of us wouldn't want to perform...no way I want them NOT able to vent, we don't want an epidemic of avoidable PTSD from the blues, ever.

There are public crimes, and there are personal in-house living issues that need not be legislated against. Ever. THOSE are the laws that need to be eliminated!

Label me Libertarian because of that? I'll welcome it.
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Tompage
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Gannon, again you miss my point. The former officer stole evidence, marijuana, and converted it for his own use. This isn't a case of simple possession/use of marijuana. It's Felony theft. If that's not corruption, then heck, nothing is. Anyone else who steals evidence would be prosecuted. I believe the officer should be prosecuted too. Once he serves his punishment, he can be free to go to dental school, truck driving school, or latte brewing school. Just not hold a position of public trust. And yes, I do know lots of officers. I worked for 30 years (and still do) in large police agencies: one with 9000 officers and another with 4000. For about 20 years I primarily worked as a law enforcement trainer, not just in one location, but in probably half the states, British Columbia, and other countries. So yeah, I know a lot of officers. And I guarantee you that most would feel the same way about this Dearborn officer: Don't just fire him; prosecute him.
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Posted on Friday, May 11, 2007 - 1:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

TOO FUNNY 313
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Might one inquire what the LAPD was doing in British Columbia?
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Tompage
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Training RCMP, Vancouver PD, and others in DUI (alcohol and drugs) enforcement.
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quote:

Gannon, speaking from experience as well, every person I've ever known that used pot on a regular basis, their personal life is/was a disaster. I don't know of one person that this doesn't hold true for.


That doesn't mean shit. There's a HUGE difference between causation and correlation. Ever think that these types of people you know would be that way regardless of how often they - or if they didn't - smoke?
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Quote:
"Just because I choose to spark up some weed makes me complicit with those who steal, murder, carjack, and vote Republican?! Nah."

They are felonies. Save the Republican vote, which is just plain dumb.

Quote: "The jails could be reduced just with the release of petty drug offenders alone...too funny."

Petty offenses in your view. Just because you've been using illegal drugs for a long period of time which obviously has impaired your reasoning, it's still a violation. There's no leniency accruals on law breaking, it doesn't become ok after a certain period of time. No matter how ridiculous it now seems to you. The pot generation is quickly dying out, check the stats, it's usage is way down from what it was. If it was put to a popular vote, I think you'd find you're in a very small minority.

:-)
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Gannon
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My reasoning was impaired WELL before I tried pot! heh (I went to parochial school!)


quote:

The pot generation is quickly dying out, check the stats, it's usage is way down from what it was. If it was put to a popular vote, I think you'd find you're in a very small minority.




I'll let you exist in YOUR delusions.


Why can't you let me exist in MINE?!


Legalize it NOW!
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Sstashmoo
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Gannon, It's a free society, Smoke up and godspeed. If you're willing to take the gamble..

But when you make the claim that everyone is doing it and the "squares just don't know man" :-), I feel compelled to interject with some reality.

No offense, have a great weekend.. If you remember any of it. (kidding)
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Gannon
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Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 10:49 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, damn gambling. I consider getting out of bed the biggest gamble of my day...nowadays, getting INTO bed could be the bigger risk, depending upon whomever is joining you there.

Reality is large enough for ALL of our perceptions, I just hate it when others feel the need to impose theirs on me...NOT so of sharing, like YOURS here, but rather when they want to deny ME mine at the same time.


Come to think of it...that fits spirituality and religion, too. Probably politics, and all those other taboo topics.



No offense taken at all, and the weekend has been stellar. I remember every instant...even my dreams. (not kidding)


Cheers!

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