  Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 2317 Registered: 07-2004 |
by one of detroits shitheads. It was on channel 7. And while I realize showing the beating that was somehow video taped on lasts nights news might have been ok; showing it again tonight was not ok. But that is not why I post. Does anyone disagree that when the cops caught this shithead that the hope is they beat the living shit out of him? There was a time when that was more common. He really deserves it.........lets hope they did. I do wonder why the bond was only 75thou.It is a cash bond but still that seems a bit low. | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 449 Registered: 11-2006 |
I don't care what anyone else says. I hope the cops beat the sam hell out of him. I think that if you beat a 90 year old man/woman, you deserve whatever you get. Karma baby. | ||
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100 Post Number: 1011 Registered: 12-2006 |
The guy was a 91 year old war vet. Yeesh, great way for the public to turn against you fast. | ||
Dougw Member Username: Dougw Post Number: 1676 Registered: 11-2003 |
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local /story.aspx?content_id=d3a4e11 4-bc60-4452-aa01-dde4cdc2be18 It was on Channel 4 again tonight as well. The $75K bond does seem on the low side. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5498 Registered: 10-2003 |
This reminds me of when that crook punch that 100-year old in NYC a few weeks ago and stole some stuff from her. I hope the guy gets caught. | ||
Iddude313 Member Username: Iddude313 Post Number: 75 Registered: 07-2005 |
disgusting. all of it. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 3851 Registered: 10-2003 |
This is a despicable act and I hope, and will bet, he gets the full force of punishment of the law as he should. But to..."Does anyone disagree that when the cops caught this shithead that the hope is they beat the living shit out of him?" I totally disagree. What a ridiculous wish - have cops take the law into their own hands, become criminals in turn and maybe go to jail, become little better this the POS who did this act and hand him or his heirs a million dollar lawsuit settlement. Brilliant. Let him get to prison and when his story gets out inside you may get satisfaction for your revenge fantasies. | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 450 Registered: 11-2006 |
I have to say that even after reading Lowell's comment, I still wouldn't care if the cops beat the crap out of him. Nope. I've stopped and thought again and the very first and most prevalent thought in my heart is - he deserves whatever he gets. Of course the cops probably handled him with kid gloves, but when I hear of a helpless human being treated that way I just go all eye for an eye in my head and heart. | ||
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox Post Number: 190 Registered: 04-2006 |
Citylover, to answer your question, yes, I disagree. Cops should not be given that kind of power. It's a checks and balances thing--give the cops too much power and they'll start abusing it. It's a natural human tendency, and many police officers are all too human in matters like this. We've got a court system for a reason. Let's use it. | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 451 Registered: 11-2006 |
It's not that they should be given the power to beat people, that never works out well for anyone. I take city's comment as an emotional reaction to a disgusting crime, hence my agreement with the original post. | ||
Alexei289 Member Username: Alexei289 Post Number: 1292 Registered: 11-2004 |
"It's a checks and balances thing--give the cops too much power and they'll start abusing it." They do it already btw.. It did work great tho in Nazi Germany... | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 2318 Registered: 07-2004 |
I prefer to think of it as an occupational hazard of this kind of vocation_ ya beat up a ninety year old man and ya just might face some unhappy cops_ in the old days this asshole would have been beaten senseless and deservedly so. | ||
Cklwbig8 Member Username: Cklwbig8 Post Number: 123 Registered: 02-2005 |
I don't care who beats the shit out of him, as long as somebody does it. That piece of shit turd slimeball needs a baseball bat to the head multiple times after what he did. worthless to society like the rest of the guys that were watching him do it and did nothing. like it didn't even faze them. | ||
Mercman Member Username: Mercman Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2006 |
And the 'beat' goes on... http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20070511/NEWS07/ 705110313/1009/NEWS07 What is this world coming to? | ||
Ja1mz Member Username: Ja1mz Post Number: 38 Registered: 02-2007 |
There was a group of people on film that looked liked they were watching it happen, and didn't do a damn thing...generally when you see someone being pummeled in the face in a parking lot it may be cause for concern, especially if its a frail old man. It seems like we are regressing more and more into an old wild wild west mentality.......so lets get a rope and see that thug dance on the end of it.....yeeeee haaaaa! | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 709 Registered: 11-2003 |
It mentions that he ran from the police and that a police officer was injured in the pursuit so I'm sure he got his. Hopefully they had to tackle him in the middle of the street and in the process gave him a concrete facial. You run from the police you're giving them a free ticket to inflict some pain. | ||
Eric_w Member Username: Eric_w Post Number: 171 Registered: 02-2007 |
Deontae? What a silly & stupid name-fits him right to the ground. Am I shocked? No,nothing that happens in Detroit shocks me. | ||
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet Post Number: 443 Registered: 01-2007 |
I spite of what others might think Citylover, I would have to agree with you. But its only an anger inspired fantasy. | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 2319 Registered: 07-2004 |
More of a longing Bullet Magnet.........back in the 60's and 70's I bet this moron would not have beaten up that old man_ why? Because he would have already had his ass beaten many times by the police and he would know that they would do it again and severely. | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 452 Registered: 11-2006 |
Law abiding citizens very rarely get beaten up by the police. Yeah, I'd say never. | ||
Softailrider Member Username: Softailrider Post Number: 36 Registered: 02-2007 |
It also bothered me very much that there were 5 or 6 people standing around watching this happen . The fact that nobody came to his defense is unconscionable . This is Detroit not NYC ,for better or worse, around here people generally get involved . | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 458 Registered: 11-2006 |
Get involved get dead is probably what they were thinking. | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 720 Registered: 08-2005 |
quote: Is that why the DPD has so much trouble getting witnesses to come forward during murder investigations? It's funny how so many people can seem to mysteriously "forget" seeing anything at all when the police come asking questions. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 9418 Registered: 10-2003 |
Agreed Warriorfan. The attitude that prevails in Detroit is "not my problem". Is there a correlation between murders and the non-response from the general population of the city? | ||
Softailrider Member Username: Softailrider Post Number: 37 Registered: 02-2007 |
Guys......I don't think you can equate deciding not to testify at a murder trial( fearing reprisal ) and turning your back on an elderly man being beaten up by a punk . I truly believe there are a lot of good samaritians in the city . There just weren't any around that night . | ||
Chub Member Username: Chub Post Number: 473 Registered: 11-2003 |
Saw it on the news tonight here in LA. I said to myself out loud "yep that's my Detroit". | ||
Exmotowner Member Username: Exmotowner Post Number: 280 Registered: 06-2005 |
Man, Thats just messed up. Yea when that guy gets to prison, Karma will kick is ass. He probably wont last long in there. | ||
Michigan Member Username: Michigan Post Number: 207 Registered: 04-2007 |
Softtail that was a dumb statement. People in NY do get involved, that's why it is safer than Detroit, despite being ten times the size-8,000,000 vs 800,000. Maybe the fear of a knife in the gut or a bullet in the chest from the punk can be thought of as reprisal. And if enough "Detroiters" get involved, there would no longer be a fear of reprisals. (Message edited by michigan on May 13, 2007) | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 9419 Registered: 10-2003 |
Softailrider, the equation is the same! There could be reprisals for both actions and once again the general pop. stands up proud and does...nothing! No wonder the solved murders percentage is horrendous and it is no coincidence that this kind of BS continues with the type of character that the people show on a daily basis. | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 1560 Registered: 11-2005 |
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=200770511024 quote: Some people did get involved. | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 465 Registered: 11-2006 |
Just read the short article and it said a guy was killed in Detroit while mowing his lawn? So, a guy was killed in Detroit while mowing his lawn? I want to stay on track with the thread, but, dang. What did he do to deserve that? | ||
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001 Post Number: 2636 Registered: 11-2003 |
It's a shame that no one thought to help the vet while he was getting pummeled on by this POS. And he was a little punk on top of that. | ||
Dougw Member Username: Dougw Post Number: 1677 Registered: 11-2003 |
quote: This is a big reason why security cameras might really help the crime problem in the city (in many areas). They probably wouldn't have arrested this guy if it weren't for the camera. | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 4418 Registered: 10-2003 |
Put Deontae Edwards in a room against a bigger stronger guy and let him get punched 21 times. That would be the best punishment. | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 129 Registered: 05-2004 |
At least the bystanders didn't join in on the beat down. That's the only thing that would have made this worse other than having the guy die. I couldn't believe how understanding the old man was toward the guy who beat him. He's hoping the guy gets rehabilitation. That's pretty amazing considering how messed up his face was. Maybe he wasn't thinking very clearly. I don't think I'd be so forgiving. | ||
Wally2times Member Username: Wally2times Post Number: 111 Registered: 03-2007 |
saw that tonight. Had that young man had a paying construction job or someo other that was taken by an illegal that poor old gentlemen probably would have never made the news. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 540 Registered: 05-2006 |
Quote: At least the bystanders didn't join in on the beat down. That's the only thing that would have made this worse other than having the guy die. I couldn't believe how understanding the old man was toward the guy who beat him. He's hoping the guy gets rehabilitation. That's pretty amazing considering how messed up his face was. Maybe he wasn't thinking very clearly. I don't think I'd be so forgiving. ______________________________ ___________________ Perhaps he was thinking of Christ, and turned the other cheek when he gave said statement. I say God Bless him... | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 4076 Registered: 10-2003 |
Well looks like we just made CNN... | ||
Perfectgentleman Member Username: Perfectgentleman Post Number: 735 Registered: 03-2006 |
Detroit is getting slammed on O'Reilly right now over this issue by a former DC homicide detective. (Message edited by perfectgentleman on May 14, 2007) | ||
Club_boss Member Username: Club_boss Post Number: 92 Registered: 12-2006 |
It's been on MSNBC all day | ||
Karl Member Username: Karl Post Number: 7421 Registered: 09-2005 |
Paulmcall said: "At least the bystanders didn't join in on the beat down." Is it so bad that 22 yr olds need help beating a 90-year-old man? The real question: will the "innocent bystanders" testify as to what they saw, and too bad they can't be charged for not helping the old man. It would be too rich of one of 'em found out it was their relative. | ||
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto Post Number: 3501 Registered: 10-2003 |
Detroit has always had these kind of Sociopaths, those who prey on the weakest. It's sickening. No need to wish a police beating the perp, he'll get some in prison. Hasn't enough money been paid out in lawsuits? At least we are not Atlanta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K athryn_Johnston | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 331 Registered: 11-2003 |
Just like when Rosa Parks got beat up. I would love to take on the people who prey on the elderly. | ||
Perfectgentleman Member Username: Perfectgentleman Post Number: 739 Registered: 03-2006 |
Maybe the assailant was paid off by someone from the suburbs to beat the guy. | ||
Eric_w Member Username: Eric_w Post Number: 178 Registered: 02-2007 |
The video of this has made to national news outlets. It's been on CNN & Fox News. Great PR for Detroit-notice that no one from the city government is saying anything? | ||
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001 Post Number: 2637 Registered: 11-2003 |
What can they say? Our residents are spineless wussies that get off on watching the elderly get their asses kicked by some punk looking for quick $$$. | ||
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill Post Number: 244 Registered: 09-2006 |
I still think if we lived in a society where the punishment fits the crime,, people would think twice often before commiting them. | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 1003 Registered: 10-2006 |
...and this morning on Good Morning America. Detroit is getting plenty of publicity. | ||
Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 2166 Registered: 11-2003 |
it was on the Today Show this AM, looked bad for Detroit, but they focused more on human apathy in situations like this rather than just a Detroit problem. I saw the poor gentleman, who could beat him like that? | ||
Wally2times Member Username: Wally2times Post Number: 123 Registered: 03-2007 |
quote: I saw the poor gentleman, who could beat him like that? an animal | ||
Janesback Member Username: Janesback Post Number: 329 Registered: 08-2006 |
We saw this video all the way down here in Texas. We thought Katrian refugees were bad, but I have to say I have never seen such callousiness from thugs. Poor man, we all felt so bad for him I hope those punks that just stood by get theirs too. Sad part after showing the piece, the news casters had a sarcastic comment about "that" city. I hope he recovers too, he looks like a feisty man. Jane | ||
Rrl Member Username: Rrl Post Number: 812 Registered: 12-2003 |
Jane- Perhaps you ought to highlight to these self-righteous news-casters that Texas is not exempt from these sorts of societal vermin. http://www.khou.com/topstories /stories/khou070402_ac_elderly care.24dbf9e4.html http://www.seniorjournal.com/N EWS/Alerts/5-04-22Murder.htm | ||
Janesback Member Username: Janesback Post Number: 330 Registered: 08-2006 |
Rrl, I agree, we have the same problems here too. And you are right, actually the newscaster who made the comment has always have a reputation for arrogance. Hes as old as a dinosaur and needs to retire Again, I do hope the victim continues to recover and justice will try and convict his attacker.. Jane | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 4088 Registered: 10-2003 |
Come on now Rrl you know Detroit is the only place where things like this happen at.... You see how quickly people forgot about the NY incident.... | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 775 Registered: 04-2006 |
"It's funny how so many people can seem to mysteriously "forget" seeing anything at all when the police come asking questions." That's an issue everywhere. Even in... :::gasp::: NYC! | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 357 Registered: 02-2007 |
The elderly gentlemen was showing "grace" and the thug who hit him may never realize the true spirit of the man he beat...but what saddens me is the blatant disregard from the people around,,, they could have done something, even if it was to say we called the police...they disgust me also.. surely, they could have done something... | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 9160 Registered: 10-2003 |
Let's hope the courts don't go down their typically lenient selves with this case. I will be disgusted to hear that he ends up plea bargaining and gets a slap on the wrist. | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 4091 Registered: 10-2003 |
He shouldnt with the video evidence and the outcry, not to mention with the nationwide coverage that this has recieved... Not to mention carjacking is a crime that cannot be plea bargained out of... His azz needs to be locked up until he is the same age as the man he beat, and the poetic irony if he survives is that some twenty two year old will beat his sorry azz... | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 479 Registered: 11-2006 |
I just want to say that I don't get it at all. I guess I don't understand because I know from experience that I am the first to get involved, even when I probably shouldn't. | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 2326 Registered: 07-2004 |
Whatever.....the problem is you just don't know who's armed and wh isn't. They caught the asshole hope fully they roughed him up a good bit and a long prison sentence will be demanded or there will be national public outrage. | ||
Club_boss Member Username: Club_boss Post Number: 94 Registered: 12-2006 |
My take would be: I don’t expect every citizen to step up and confront an attacker, he may be armed and kill both of you. Baring any type of formal training or background I would say the average person is ill equipped to intervene and then overtake this attacker. But, and it’s a big but, I do expect every citizen to stop what there doing and report to the police what they are witnessing. I would like to watch the video in slow-motion, to the naked eye it appears to me that these onlookers are engaged in conversion, or simply chatting away about what sales they found at Macy’s, or whatever, as this aggravated assault is in progress right in front of them. They also don't flee the area or run away, they just stand there and continue to visit with their friends, did they see what was occurring? | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 4092 Registered: 10-2003 |
Wrong on that assumption club boss, it was one of those standing around in 'conversation' that notified the police... | ||
Club_boss Member Username: Club_boss Post Number: 95 Registered: 12-2006 |
Well that is helpful, I don't see very well and had not heard that they did assist. Calling 911 is rendering aid, granted indirectly, but none the less, it is helping. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 2162 Registered: 06-2004 |
quote:It wasn't random - he got chased into his backyard by the shooter and was shot multiple times. (though mowing your lawn early on a Sunday morning could piss off your neighbors) | ||
Jokerman Member Username: Jokerman Post Number: 86 Registered: 07-2005 |
I live in San Diego, CA and saw the story on the Today show. The focus of the story was on the bystanders that did not help the victim, or even call police. | ||
Romanized Member Username: Romanized Post Number: 224 Registered: 02-2005 |
Well maybe more people should "equip" themselves for these type of incident. If you know what I mean. It would make for a safer, more polite society. | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 4110 Registered: 10-2003 |
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Romanized...mistakes be damned eh.... | ||
Romanized Member Username: Romanized Post Number: 226 Registered: 02-2005 |
Oh get over it people. Where gun law less strict and worn more openly we see less "mistakes" then in places like the D. In the end, I'd rather die of a mistake, then on my knees begging a criminal for my life. So yes, mistakes be damned. | ||
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001 Post Number: 2639 Registered: 11-2003 |
The statistics don't bear that out, Detroit_stylin. | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 2330 Registered: 07-2004 |
What this guy really needs is to move way out of the city_ maybe somone will give him a house.Dinner and a ball game is nice but haven't they (his wife)been thru enough? http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20070516/M ETRO/705160403&imw=Y | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 4130 Registered: 10-2003 |
Citylover perhaps it is just better if YOU stay waaaaaaaaaaaay out of the city.... | ||
Hardliner Member Username: Hardliner Post Number: 47 Registered: 02-2007 |
The dudes in Jail... But I think he deserves a taserin', turned up to 10... -HL |
