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Leland_palmer
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Post Number: 320
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 6:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone noticed that the deterioration of the some of the properties that HCL own seem to have hastened over the past couple months.

Here are a couple of examples.

http://fadeddetroit.blogspot.c om/2007/05/rebirth-or-impendin g-doom.html

http://fadeddetroit.blogspot.c om/2007/01/all-fall-down.html

It would be nice if they did more to stabilize these buildings so we don't end up with another Slumpy. I hope they don't end up being another case of demolition by neglect so that they can put new construction on these lots.
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Gdub
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Post Number: 1107
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 10:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Hip City Living." Man, what a dumb name.
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Mdoyle
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 1:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They seem to be in more of the slash and burn market. Buy up property and eventually demo and build disposable prefab structures that have all of that old feel without any of that rehabilitation inconvenience.
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Innercitydoc
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 7:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Historic structures in Brush Park can't be demoed so they must rehab them one way or another. Probably the reason Old Slumpy hasn't been torn down amongst others.
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Charlottepaul
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Post Number: 1042
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 8:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Historic structures in Brush Park can't be demoed"

Why can't they be?
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Jfried
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Post Number: 973
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 9:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any RFP the City has recently released for land they have assembled in Brush park has had the stipulation that existing structures are rehabilitated as part of the new developmemnt. In the last few years we have lost many structures that could have easily been renovated, but at least now we are probably at the point that anything left standing in Brush Park at this time will be rehabbed, or incorporated into some sort of adaptive reuse. That said, with the right proposal, and enough money I wouldn't be surprised to see the city easily slipping on this policy.
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Charlottepaul
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Post Number: 1044
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 9:28 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Certainly. However, if you own the property as may be the case with HCL, you could do whatever you want with it, no?
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Yooper
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 9:32 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, they can probably do whatever they want with it. They should turn it into a grocery store or a bar.
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Jfried
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Post Number: 975
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 9:46 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hip City Living owns the property through the award of an RFP from the City.

In addition, these homes are located in the Brush Park Historic District, so no, they can't just do what they want.

They haven't owned the homes very long so I would hardly call it demolition by neglect. It takes a long time to get incentives, tax credits, and not to mention skilled craftsmen to work on these projects.

Give them a break. They are moving forward.
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Karl
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Post Number: 7747
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 9:52 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Things never stand still - they are either moving forward, or backward.

Perhaps a few pics of progress and/or forward movement in Brush Park would be helpful to keep things in perspective.
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6nois
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Post Number: 273
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 11:44 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I went down there in the fall none of the signs were there in front of those buildings. So I assumed that the placement of the signs was a sign that construction would start soon. Not really sure though. I do have to say though that Jfried is right, as far as I know in a historic context like that you can't tear the buildings down.
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Suburbia
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 12:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The buildings have been preliminarily reviewed by the Historic District Commission. The goal is to restore the buildings to their original facade and create multiple living spaces within the homes/duplexes. As it was mentioned, it takes time to move forward on the older homes - there's a lot of infrastructure to analyze with architects/engineers. In the meantime, they're organizing a clean-up effort to remove some of the debris that has fallen. They are also focussing their efforts on their new homes on the corner of John R/Erskine - a nine unit building is currently going up.
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Rfrankt
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 11:12 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hip City Living is not in the slash and burn business as some "uninformed" may be speculating. Hip City Living has a development agreement w/ Brush Park Development Corp. to rehab 240 and 248 Mack, across from the DMC.
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Charlottepaul
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Post Number: 1058
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, June 01, 2007 - 2:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Makes more sense now to me to know that there is an agreement in the RFP between the city and HCL that they more or less signed a contract to rehab the buildings. However Jfried, keep in mind that being designated a historic building or being in an historic district on any level (national, state or local) does not in any way prevent a building from being demolished.

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