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Ookpik
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 7:04 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)





The building on the left reads "The Detroit Edison Company." The building in the background on the right is the YMCA.

What is that piece of equipment destroying the street called? I want to call it a "steam shovel" but that probably isn't correct.

For a larger version of the photo, please click here

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Ja1mz
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 7:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it might be East Jefferson, it looks like to old YMCA building near belle isle, that was used by CoD. It closed a few years back, forgive me I can't remember the cross street on Jefferson.
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56packman
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 7:55 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't this looking eastward along Adams at Witherell between Adams and Elizabeth?
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Outoftowner
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's an excavator, built by Koehring. It's got a gasoline-powered engine. At the time this photo would have been taken -- 1930s, early 1940s -- steam had been phased out in mobile equipment, at least in the United States.
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 10:26 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corner of Gratiot and Cadillac, looking south on Cadillac at the Northeastern YMCA, which is at the corner of Cadillac and Harper.
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Mikem
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Ray1936
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mikem comes through again.

Except, steam or no steam, I still call 'em steam shovels. Old habits die hard.
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Ookpik
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 1:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Mike!

Outoftowner - Thanks for the info!

Ray - Me too!

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56packman
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 1:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is that Mike Mulligan's steam shovel?
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Ookpik
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LMAO! I read that book as a kid and to this day, any type of machinery that looks like that is a "steam shovel," whether it actually is or not.
Mike' steam shovel was named Mary Anne. She is now a furnace in the Town Hall.

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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 2:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Grand River and the Blvd, thats the Y on Dexter in the background.
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"Corner of Gratiot and Cadillac, looking south on Cadillac at the Northeastern YMCA, which is at the corner of Cadillac and Harper."

Yep, where that Operation Get Down building is. I knew it looked familiar.

(Message edited by Urbanize on June 04, 2007)
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Ed_golick
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 3:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Before they got down and out.
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Ja1mz
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

..yikes...I was way off....
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 6:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting piece of machinery though, pre-hydraulics. All arms, bucket, gears, etc are worked through pulleys & cables.

Wouldn't want to stand too close to that thing if one of the cables snapped.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I knew I had a shot of this intersection somewhere, so I went looking for it. I dont know if this is the right one or not:
http://i148.photobucket.com/al bums/s22/bulletmagnet69/kodakg roup032207046.jpg?t=1181092989
This may be Van Dyke...I'll keep looking.
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Wash_man
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 10:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bulletmagnet that picture is VanDyke and Harper near I-94 I think.
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 10:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Wash_man, I thought so. I have so many to look through, I need a Dewy Decimal System. I'll keep looking for the right one.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK, I had to re-shoot it today, but here ya go:
http://i148.photobucket.com/al bums/s22/bulletmagnet69/Wednsd ayJune062007194.jpg?t=11811748
This is looking up Cadillac from Gratiot.
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Ookpik
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 9:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great pic Bullet!

Then:





Now:





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Lizaanne
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 10:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seeing the side by side photos is SOOO cool!!

Great job!

~Liza
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 6:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Ookpik, and Lizaanne :-)
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Ray1936
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dang, all you guys and gals are amazing!!! Great thread.
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Jimaz
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Even Timbuktu is correctly pinpointed. Detroit is truly a microcosm of the world.
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Jimaz
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As a technical photographic sidenote, in the older photo, the YMCA appears proportionally larger than in the newer photo. Isn't that because the older photo would have been taken with a lens of longer focal length?

I first noticed this effect after the attempted assassination of President Reagan. After that, everyone including the press was kept at a farther distance from the President. Consequently, photographers had to switch to telephoto lenses which made Nancy's head (usually in the background) appear awkwardly large relative to Ronald's. (A bit of photographic trivia.)

(Message edited by Jimaz on June 07, 2007)
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 10:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jimaz, you are a smart cookie. Yes indeed, a longer lens will tend to 'flatten' the scene. Try taking a shot of a row of houses, for instance. With a long lens the houses will appear to squish together, with little depth.
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 7:00 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jimaz, Bullet, that is exactly what I've noticed with the YMCA and in some of the other pictures posted in this series of photos. The longer lens used in many of these old photos makes a scene appear "busy" especially when shooting a down-street shot. Buildings in the background appear larger than they really are and there are so many cars and people in the "short" block.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 10:47 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, this forum is amazing. The amount of information on here goes far beyond information about Detroit. And the conversations about Detroit are great, too. Good stuff.

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