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Yvette248
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 3:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ford tops J.D. Power quality study
June 6, 2007
BY JOE GUY COLLIER
FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER

Ford Motor Co., including Mazda Motor Corp., won five model segments, more than any other automaker, as it gained ground on the foreign automakers in the 2007 J.D. Power and Associates Initial Quality Study released Tuesday.

The Mercury Milan ranked first in the competitive mid-size car segment, beating out the Honda Accord. The Ford Mustang was the highest-ranked mid-size sports car for the second straight year and Lincoln MKZ topped the entry premium car segment.....

J.D. Power and Associates recognized the now-defunct factory, where the Lincoln Town Car was built until a week ago, as the highest-quality assembly plant in the world.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 3:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's disturbing.
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 3:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is a bit ironic.
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Eric_c
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 3:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not to mention, true.
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Yvette248
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 3:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very disturbing, but much needed good news overall for Ford.
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Burnsie
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 5:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Both Buick City in Flint and the former Oldsmobile plant in Lansing also won major quality awards shortly before closing. The problem, though, was that too often the quality wasn't assured until after the car went through the paint repair/conditioning area after assembly was completed. At the newer GM plants in Lansing and vicinity, the assembly process ensures that the quality stays intact throughout, instead of waiting until the end to fix something.
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Supersport
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 11:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Toyota's quality is in a downward spiral, wow, what a shocker. Pretty much everybody knew this was coming, as they have been growing at way too rapid of a pace. So perhaps they'll over take GM for top sales this year, they'll have the bragging rights, but their quality will continue to suffer, and their reign at the top will be short lived. If GM can come to market with this Volt concept car in the near future, it'll be a TKO for Toyota.

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20070606/BUSINES S01/70606035
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Lilpup
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Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 11:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doubt they'll top GM for the year - not when GM can outsell them by 100,000 in a month
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Zephyrprocess
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 1:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Slower lines=higher quality; that was what helped Wixom these past few years
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Focusonthed
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 1:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not to mention I would hope they'd be able to build the fucking things alright. They'd been building the same damn car for what, 30 years?

I'm kidding, but only half.
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56packman
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 8:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

J.D. Power is an award that can be "bought"

the ultimate award is sales--you are rewarded on your past quality in current sales. The customers who had good service in their last car come back to you for their next car.
Some of our domestic brands have made product that looks good when new, then starts needing $600 repairs every six months after the warranty expires--mechanical reliability is viewed as "quality" as much as initial fit and finish.
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Jeffery47
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There was an article online a few days ago that said higher line speed equaled higher quality, which is the reverse of what you would think to be the case.

The problem with being #1 is there is only one way to go. Toyota sees Hyundai in the rear view mirror, and behind that is the Chinese. I remember a Rodney Dangerfield joke about Chinese motorcycles being junk. How times have changed.

My guess is that Toyota won't have nearly as long a reign at #1 as GM did. GM and the other 2 just need to concentrate on making money on every vehicle, and getting their other costs in line.

With all the Kool-Aid the CAW has been serving lately, the next couple of years should be very entertaining.
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Cushkid
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 10:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If quality increases with line speed, Wixom should've been dead last for at least 6 months, it had the slowest line speed of any Ford plant.
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Yvette248
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 8:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Ford Motor Co. is wasting no time touting its strong showing in the J.D. Power quality rankings. A full-page Lincoln-Mercury ad appeared Monday in USA Today with the headline "There's nothing like that new trophy smell" and photos of the Milan, MKZ and Mark LT. Television and radio spots will incorporate the same theme later this month."
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Hairybackjoe
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 10:32 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was a short (very short) blurb on the radio today (the car chronicles) talking about this (actually about one or two sentences). The reason they gave was the decline of the Lincoln brand name (that's all they said, no particulars).
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_sj_
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 1:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Doubt they'll top GM for the year - not when GM can outsell them by 100,000 in a month



From the Automotive News

quote:

Automotive News credited 51 percent-owner SAIC for the 420,140 units the venture sold in 2006, putting GMs global sales at 8,679,860 units in 2006, against 8,808,000 for Toyota.

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