  Schoolcraft Member Username: Schoolcraft Post Number: 114 Registered: 07-2005 |
So I am sitting in the audience at HippieFest and Country Joe McDonald asks if anyone is from Detroit, and people cheer and he comments"yay, Motor City. Red Wings, Motown.".and all was right with the world.etc;etc; He introduces Mitch and this homunculus takes the stage and states "Jenny... was the song that got me the heck out of Detroit" "And then got to see that there were nice places in the world" Hmmmm Why? | ||
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd Post Number: 1301 Registered: 07-2004 |
Schoolcraft: How dare he say that! Anybody who flies into our beautiful city first sees Sugar Loaf, that wonderfully picturesque mountain rising into the sky, then they see the sparkling blue water of the Atlantic, filled with pleasure crafts, fringed with white sand beaches and luxury resorts. Oh, wait. That's Rio. Sorry. | ||
Oakmangirl Member Username: Oakmangirl Post Number: 145 Registered: 08-2007 |
Funny, I thought Mr. Ryder was here at the State Fair warming up the crowd for Air Supply? | ||
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln Post Number: 110 Registered: 06-2007 |
Sounds like something Madonna would say. Oh no, wait. She no longer acknowledges her Michigan roots, preferring to tell people shes a Brit. I just keep appreciating Bob Seger more and more. Nugent ran off to texas. Seger is about the last rock'n'roll guy left in these parts.To me, geographic loyalty still counts for something. You should never forget or deny where you come from. | ||
Mrf Member Username: Mrf Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2007 |
Didn't know Mitch was even still alive ! Keep on rockin' Bob. Rock and Roll WILL never forget. | ||
Schoolcraft Member Username: Schoolcraft Post Number: 115 Registered: 07-2005 |
Yeah no slums in Rio thats for sure. Its perfect there. Thanks Oakmangirl...my witnessing his Detroit outburst wasnt within last 12 hours but within last 6 days. Ya think Mitch might talk smack on Detroit at the State Fair..ya think?....HMMM Sorta sayin he wont.Interesting.Indeed, Seger gets it! He is a god.The real deal. | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 1221 Registered: 01-2006 |
Mitch/Bill is from Roseville. Maybe that's why he was glad about Jenny taking him for a ride. | ||
Waz Member Username: Waz Post Number: 168 Registered: 11-2006 |
Mitch grew up in Hamtramck and graduated from Warren High School - class of '63, I believe. | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 1223 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hhmm. That doesn't match my recollection. I knew his brother, although not well; perhaps I inferred facts that were not implied. I dunno. I apologize to our group. Even if I'm correct, my lack of absolute certainty is unacceptable. And Waz, thanks again and many times over, for that link to the internet radio station, supplied by you on another thread. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 5793 Registered: 11-2004 |
Sometimes I don't understand why these folks have to bash where they came from. Jack White did it too awhile back. Detroit was obviously good enough for them to start here. For all intents and purposes, they lingered here long enough to become somewhat successful so why look back and bash Detroit? Now I'm not saying they had a wonderful time here going up the ranks, but obviously if it wasn't for those times they might not be where they are now. Why look back and curse your own past? Mitch, have some class. | ||
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln Post Number: 112 Registered: 06-2007 |
The thing is, these guys are looked at almost as heroes. If you come from a region you aren't happy with,then I can't blame you for going somewhere you'll be happier for your own personal happiness.But when you speak ill of your old stomping ground,it's sort of like backstabbing the guys that helped you get there and looked up to you. I don't mind that jack white left, because he legitimately seems like a happier guy who found his rightful place.The problem comes when you get enough national attention where you get arrogant and talk bad about a place that helped you get where you're at. Mitch Ryder is a has-been. Hes been one for decades. Detroit and its audience made him. He's bitter.Jack White may have grown apart from Detroit. Fine. But the Detroit scene supported him enough to give him the opportunity to get big enough to move to Nashville. What always has bothered me was the fact that will people will move just to grab a bigger slice of the showbiz pie. Staying put geographically just shows that you aren't willing to compromise who you are as much to sell out and let success make your determinations for you. | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 462 Registered: 11-2006 |
There are freer more tolerant places than Detroit folks. Sorry to dissapoint you all but you have to be real about the socio-economic conditions that afflict our region. If I could go back at least 10yrs I would give Canada a try. You have to put the political correctness aside and look at the big picture. Regional socio political issues are complex. The state we live in is a very antagonistic place.We remain segregated; the labor movement has become stagnant; job losses; gender and ethnic antagonisms abound;etc. THEY AINT FRIENDLY! North of Detroit there are angry Bush/Cheney white males; Suburbs have an angry man hating feminist white female population; chip on shoulder African Americans hold grudges against whites etc. so on and so forth. Mitch Ryder might have had one to many bad experiences. | ||
Abracadabra Member Username: Abracadabra Post Number: 68 Registered: 04-2007 |
I was good friends with his stepson back in Highschool. He has since divorced and moved, but he used to live right on 5 Mile in Livonia, across from the cemetery and down the street from the turkey farm. It was fun hanging out by the gold record of blue dress/miss molly. This was in the mid to late 90s. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1361 Registered: 12-2003 |
Mitch Ryder lived on the west side of Detroit for years...longer than any musician of his fame or stature. He loves Detroit but also snarks about it. He doesn't have to spew sunshine and butterflies every time he speaks. | ||
Dustin89 Member Username: Dustin89 Post Number: 118 Registered: 07-2006 |
Alice Cooper also has 'geographic loyalty' and grew up in the city. His parents moved him to L.A. & then Arizona when he was a teen. He lives in Scottsdale, Arizona today but comes back to MI for one Detroit concert every year and several others elsewhere in the state. He is not coy about his roots. | ||
Rickinatlanta Member Username: Rickinatlanta Post Number: 111 Registered: 07-2006 |
I'm sorry TerryH, you claim your home WITH all the worts!!! You get the same kind of shit everywhere you live, so deal with it and be proud of your home. I am, SW Detroit right near the Ford Rouge Plant!! | ||
Sailor_rick Member Username: Sailor_rick Post Number: 191 Registered: 02-2004 |
I’m sure Ryder’s comment was meant affectionately. To my knowledge, Ryder still calls Detroit home. He’s a grump but has always been an “activist” since back in the day and had a few benefit shows during the newspaper strike. Yeah, “Blue Dress” got him the “heck out of Detroit” (or Cleveland, Pittsburgh or Texarkana). Think of the vast world that was unlocked for him by it. The Who OPENED for Ryder and the Detroit Wheels and “broke out” during that tour. How many rockers can claim that? Has been? He’s revered in Europe, especially Germany and has an extensive catalog. Unquestionably his gruff “blue-eyed soul” is 100% Motor City, snarky comments or not. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 5797 Registered: 11-2004 |
I guess my take on talking bad about your old stomping grounds is like when one talks of an ex-lover. One doesn't have to paint sunshine & teacups about them but one doesn't exactly have to paint them in a negative light either. If you've left for whatever reason, more power to you but one can still be somewhat dignified about something you obviously cared about at one point in your life. Why toss stones at your own past? it just makes me wonder about stupid you were for being there to begin with. | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 2407 Registered: 11-2005 |
quote: Just because they don't like you, doesn't mean they hate all men. | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 1572 Registered: 03-2006 |
at least the white stripes just hated on some of the people, not the whole city which is something they have been making clear in recent interviews | ||
Kenp Member Username: Kenp Post Number: 742 Registered: 03-2006 |
This is an unfair thread. Mitch is a proud Detroiter, and is here often. Maybe what he meant was that because of his early success he got to go out and see the world. Spent many a fun night watching him down at places like Harpos. | ||
Carolcb Member Username: Carolcb Post Number: 1365 Registered: 11-2006 |
Jeez, I have friends who live in Walled Lake who would never acknowledge where they came from! Who act like they are too good for anything. I was also having some minor surgery on Tuesday and the doctor starts tearing apart Detroit, Memphis, and NOLA. I'm the one laying there getting the stitches, but I don't know if I should have piped up - but was just glad to get out of the office. It makes me wonder about people, you know? | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 2060 Registered: 10-2003 |
For the record, the White Stripes didn't really start enjoying widespread success until they went to England. This is true for some other big rockers, like Mellencamp and The Stray Cats. Their single "Red Death at 6:14" was released as a special offer with Mojo Magazine in the U.K., and that's what really broke them out. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 2061 Registered: 10-2003 |
^ It was on a vinyl Album called "Sympathetic Sounds of Detroit", released in the UK. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1363 Registered: 12-2003 |
This thread is all too typical; the culture here is to tear down, on little to no evidence. | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 1477 Registered: 02-2007 |
Still love ryder's "naked but not dead" and the one after it, the name i can't recall, both deserved more success | ||
Mallory Member Username: Mallory Post Number: 182 Registered: 05-2006 |
Had the chance to meet him one time. Nothing special, and kind of a dick anyway. May the Detroit Wheels run over the bloated fool. | ||
Schoolcraft Member Username: Schoolcraft Post Number: 116 Registered: 07-2005 |
Well, the evidence is Phoenix AZ 8/18..evening of... at the Dodge Theatre if anyone else was there from Detroit....and there were plenty....and I am an honest forum contributor...almost always.So this happened.LOL Its just that you had this awesome unique to Detroit rock and roll energy when Country Joe called out to audience asking "If anyone from Detroit" (no such inquiry made to audience on any other city thruout the whole show)....and Mitch just crushed it..like...4 minutes later.It was overkill..he actually went on a bit more than I stated even in thread....So after many Detroiters rose to their feet on Country Joes call out... and then after Mitches blathering it was like you were outed and wanted to shrink out of the room like Fred Flinstone Barney Rubble used to do under a doorwall when shamed....it was like other non-Detroiters in audience were like"shut up now and sit down" one of your own just told it like it really is....Why take good energy and crush it like Mitch did?it was a wierd tone he set...Maybe you had to be there? Ok I am sorta over it...Do see Hippiefest if it comes to Detroit...Mitch did play a great set actually..one of best out of 6/7 acts...The Zombies were awesome and a remaining Badfinger dude was good and The Turtles seemed Happy Together etc...LOL | ||
Quozl Member Username: Quozl Post Number: 1293 Registered: 07-2005 |
quote:Not gonna happen this year Schoolcraft, the tour is finished. I cannot imagine why Detroit or SE Michigan for that matter was not included in the tour itinerary: July 2007 25 - Toronto, Ontario - Molson Amphitheater 26 - Brooklyn, NY - Seaside Park 27 - Wallingford, CT - Chevrolet Theatre 28 - Vernon, NY - Vernon Downs 29 - Farmingville, NY - Brookhaven Amphitheater 30 - Vienna, VA - Wolftrap August 2007 2 - Hollywood, FL - Hard Rock Hotel & Casino 3 - Atlanta, CA - Chastain Park 4 - Wichita, KS - Cessadium Stadium 5 - Grand Prairie, TX - Nokia Live 7 - Cape Cod, MA - Melody Tent 8 - Cohasset, MA - South Shore Music Circus 9 - Philadelphia, PA - Mann Center 10 - Champion, PA - Seven Springs Resort 11 - Liberty, NY - Bethelwoods Amphitheater 12 - Gilford, NH - Meadowbrook Farms Amphitheater 16 - Temecula, CA - Pechanga Resort & Casino 17 - Lemoore, CA - Tachi Palace Hotel & Casino 18 - Phoenix, AZ - Dodge Theatre 20 - Saratoga, CA - The Winery 21 - San Diego, CA - Humphrey's Concerts By the Sea | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 465 Registered: 11-2006 |
LOL@PAM. True @Rickinatlanta. If I could live anywhere in Detroit it would be in the Northend neighborhood bordered by Hamtramck-Woodward-Grand Boulevard or Mexicantown. The Who opened for Mitch Ryder? Interesting fact. | ||
Jiminnm Member Username: Jiminnm Post Number: 1388 Registered: 02-2005 |
That you all for reminding me of a concert I attended (really more of a dance or sock hop, as they used to be known) held in the gym at UofD in the winter of 1966 - featuring Simon & Garfunkle, Dionne Warwick and, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. You just don't get those kinds of programs anymore. | ||
Cozmikdebris Member Username: Cozmikdebris Post Number: 108 Registered: 10-2003 |
I remember seeing Ryder's old band Detroit in Ann Arbor in the fall of '73, but it was Rusty Day singing. Mitch had left the state to go live in Colorado the year before, I think. | ||
Reddog289 Member Username: Reddog289 Post Number: 5 Registered: 08-2007 |
i thought that mitch lived in garden city?thats what i heard. | ||
Ladyinabag Member Username: Ladyinabag Post Number: 318 Registered: 03-2007 |
About 20 years ago Mitch made one album with John Mellencamp's label. At the time there was a Rolling Stone Magazine interview of Mitch Ryder. All you have to do is get a hold of that article and you will really see where Mitch Ryder is coming from....and if you do get it, I want a copy. | ||
Larryinflorida Member Username: Larryinflorida Post Number: 1024 Registered: 02-2007 |
I did some engineering on that record up in Bloomington Indiana in a farmhouse. It's called 'Never Kick a Sleeping Dog", I think. Sounded Great with Mellencamp's band. Didn't sell too well, sadly. He's cool, I got that he liked Detroit, at the time. Mid-80's. | ||
Larryinflorida Member Username: Larryinflorida Post Number: 1025 Registered: 02-2007 |
 Here's a cool pic I took of Mellencamp at the console during that record. I have some Mitch pix from that session I must find! | ||
Larryinflorida Member Username: Larryinflorida Post Number: 1026 Registered: 02-2007 |
 Here's another. We took a farmhouse and converted it into an impropmtu studio, hence the rough looking walls. I'm the dude on the left at the board. Oh to have hair again! =) |
