Stecks77 Member Username: Stecks77
Post Number: 352 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 5:50 pm: | |
The "Sport Nut" Peter Hyman from Slate chimes in on Tiger Stadium. http://www.slate.com/id/217310 9/fr/rss/ "Tiger Stadium as it stands today is a sad relic. It is literally falling apart, despite the fact that the city of Detroit has spent several million dollars in maintenance since 1999. Various efforts to open the stadium to the public for one final walkthrough have been canceled because the premises pose a safety risk. Some of the prized memorabilia—signage and locker room miscellany, mainly—that the city wants to auction off to raise money to offset demolition costs has already been hauled away by vandals. What remains is a hollow, neglected shell that serves only to tarnish both the club's legacy and its legends." |
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 362 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 8:45 pm: | |
Kind of reminds me of the rest of the city besides downtown. |
Dialh4hipster Member Username: Dialh4hipster
Post Number: 2165 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 8:55 pm: | |
Even Palmer Woods and Indian Village? |
Llyn Member Username: Llyn
Post Number: 1860 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:44 pm: | |
Sherwood Forest and Rosedale Park? |
Novine Member Username: Novine
Post Number: 81 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 11:29 pm: | |
"What remains is a hollow, neglected shell that serves only to tarnish both the club's legacy and its legends" Do you think he really believes this? If you of the crowd that believes "the memories are more important than the building" then what difference does it make what shape the building is in? |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 1581 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 2:31 pm: | |
I think that that this guy, Peter Hyman, has about as much say in what happens to the Tiger Stadium as anyone on DetroitYES! Seems fair to critique a few of his points: -"Instead of being demolished immediately" Thing is, why must everything be demolished 'immediately?' Detroit more often gets criticism for tearing buildings down than saving historic ones. I think his comment is somewhat misguided, as Detroit would have been damned if they did tear it down immediately or damned if they let it sit there for another 20 years. -"Even the best plans for a salvaged stadium offer little in the way of long-term solutions to these problems. While demolition alone won't cure all the ills that plague Detroit, it's at least better than doing nothing." I would argue that tearing it down WOULD do nothing for Detroit. Again, why be so quick with any decision regardless if it helps turn the city around or not. The idea that tearing down Tiger Stadium would do even one thing to help Detroit's overal situation is a far-fetched notion. -"Tearing down Tiger Stadium will send the message that the city is striving to carve a new path rather than sitting back idly and waiting for the good old days to return." Right... If tearing down vacant buildings were truly an indication that the city is striving to carve a new path rather than sitting back idly, then Detroit would be on the best path of any city in the country, LOL. |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 1865 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:05 pm: | |
I thought some of the main steel beams were dangerously rusted through? |
Pharmer_b Member Username: Pharmer_b
Post Number: 16 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 4:59 pm: | |
It's sad to hear that Tiger Stadium may be too far gone to save, but even if it could be saved, there would have to be a need for a stadium of that size, in that location, in order to make the project viable. I'm no authority on the subject, but Comerica Park and Ford Field don't exactly seem to be overutilized. Wayne State doesn't need a facility of that size, so who would use it? |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 6428 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 5:03 pm: | |
Why Detroit Needs to Tear Down Tiger Stadium? 1. Its' a eyesore 2. It's delaying further PREMIER DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. 3. Corktown needs newer businesses and retail right away or else it would be a Irish community without a major business hub. |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 1592 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 1:21 am: | |
Since when does Corktown need a major business hub? |
Lfrac88 Member Username: Lfrac88
Post Number: 6 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 2:26 am: | |
"Since when does Corktown need a major business hub?" Since there have been people living there- like me. Besides the Honeybee Market, there really needs to be more decent stores, or at least some basics. |
Parkguy Member Username: Parkguy
Post Number: 114 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 10:40 am: | |
As much as I loved going to Tiger Stadium, and as much as I have really fond memories surrounding the place, it needs to go. It is not architecturally significant-- a hodge-podge of slapped-up additions that barely hang together. It is a safety hazard, full of asbestos and crumbling concrete. They continued to play ball there long after they closed the third deck because it was totally unsafe. Keep a small part for nostalgia and to recognize the history, but let's move on. |
Novine Member Username: Novine
Post Number: 82 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 11:09 pm: | |
I can understand the Corktown community wanting something that will generate activity. But of all the potential locations for new development, why in the world would potential developers and investors want to deal with the one that's likely to have the most red tape attached to it? |
Dannyv Member Username: Dannyv
Post Number: 8 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 11:56 pm: | |
Peter Hyman is full of it. The millions he cites in maintenance is for keeping the grass cut. The Ilitchs were paid $400K/year to do just that. I doubt any money was spent on paint to protect the infrastructure of the stadium. There was a party on the baseball field during the Super Bowl celebrations. If there was any issue with liability then I'm sure the place wouldn't have been opened for party-goers. I'd think the reason for keeping people out of the stadium was to avoid the shock at how poorly maintenance has been performed over the years. It's in the interests of the Ilitchs to have Tiger Stadium torn down rather than have a competing structure with the history and the lure continue to exist. |