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Aiw
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Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 1:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

While searching for else I came across this blurb on the New York Times Web Archives from 1982:

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U.S.-Canada Fair Considered

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Published: August 22, 1982
A study on the feasibility of a United States-Canada world's fair in 1990 is being sought by Charles W. Day, public relations manager for the Ford Motor Company's Lincoln-Mercury division. Mr. Day, who says the auto company is not involved in the plan, is seeking the study on an exposition that would be built on the waterfronts of Detroit and its Canadian neighbor, Windsor, Ontario. He has approached a community group called Detroit Renaissance.



Anybody remember anything about the bid? It appears that there wasn't even a fair held in 1990.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f ullpage.html?res=9E01E4D61F39F 931A1575BC0A964948260
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 2:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was a world fair in Osaka, Japan in 1990, and one in Seville, Spain in 1992. The last World's Fair held in the U.S. was in 1984 in New Orleans.



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Goat
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Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do they even have these anymore?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 11:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Goat
Do they even have these anymore?





Yep
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Goat
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 9:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Toolbox.

It would be interesting to have two countries host it at the same time. It would at least be good for tourism.
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Toronto was planning to take a run at 2015's World Fair but the federal government and the province balked:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toron to/story/2006/10/24/expo-bid.h tml

Do these fairs still draw considerable crowds? One would expect that it would be a lot cheaper to host a World Fair than an Olympic games (hence Toronto's interest).
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 10:25 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Note the last North American World Fair was in 1986 (Vancouver).
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 10:49 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some landmarks left behind by the World's Fair:

The Eiffel Tower
The Seattle Space Needle
The Unisphere in Queens
The Sunsphere in Knoxville
Buckminster Fuller's Biosphere in Montreal
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Umstucoach
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 2:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"The Sunsphere in Knoxville"

Don't you mean the Wigsphere?
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 2:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reading the wikipedia info on the World Fair, it appears that countries often wish to host the fair as a coming out party or a "let's get reacquainted" party. Sounds perfect for Detroit.

That being said, would Detroit be enough of a draw to make the fair economically viable? Especially since no North American city has hosted the fair since 1986.
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Raptor56
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 4:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bids for 2017 or 2018 aren't likely to be placed until 2011, however there is already some speculation that Edmonton (in Alberta), Hamilton (in Ontario), or Montreal (in Quebec) could bid for an Expo 2017 to celebrate Canada's 150th anniversary since the Canadian government had chosen not to put in a bid for Toronto for Expo 2015. Mayor Larry O'Briend of Ottawa, Ontario has already announced plans for his city to bid for 2017.

http://expomuseum.com/2017-201 8/
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Elsuperbob
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 5:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it would be great for Detroit to have a Registered Exposition (Universal). These are the less frequent ones that produce the more interesting and noteworthy pavilions. Maybe for 2020...

Milan is putting together a nice bid for 2015 based around food production and preservation. Detroit could capitalize on our location in the Great Lakes to promote one based around water and how to solve the problems of lack of water to so much of the world population.

But like I said Detroit should definitely try for a major one. They seem to bring in a greater amount of new ideas from all over the world. Something I think Detroit could very much use.

As far as profits... As long as they are clearly defined they seem to be profitable. Hamburg apparently was not so well organized and lost money but the other recent ones have done well.
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 5:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Raptor, one would assume that Canada would have a great chance to host the world fair in 2017. Ottawa would be a good candidate. Montreal hosted the centennial EXPO (in '67), while Edmonton and Hamilton are not exactly hot spots. Hamilton will have the same problems that Toronto 2015 had (province not willing to underwrite losses)

Detroit could aim for 2020, but if it is a joint-US/Canada bid (Detroit and Windsor) 2020 may be too close to 2017 (assuming the fair is in Canada) to justify the Canadian government getting involved again.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 5:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Montreal must have had a good time at the '67 Expo, to have named their baseball team after it. I guess Washington Expos wouldn't have made as much sense, after the move.
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 5:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe the Montreal Expo (not the baseball team) in 1967 was Montreal's coming out party to the world. The Expos (the baseball team) began to play in Montreal in 1969. I am sure the World Fair was still on the owners' minds.

With respect to the Expos, back in high school a friend of mine got hit a few times on the school bus after telling a big kid that the kid's favourite baseball teams were the Expos and the Yankees....

Expos probably sounded better in French....
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Gistok
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Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroit hasn't had an Exposition since 1889.

The vast majority of World's Fair and Exposition Buildings get torn down after the events (they are often made of non-permanent materials such as plaster and wood). In the USA most Expo/World's Fair buildings were torn down afterwards.

Some buildings do get saved, such as the ones already mentioned. Another noteworthy exception is Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry, which survived the 1893 Columbian Exposition.

The single USA exception of an intact Expo/Fair was the Texas Centennial Exposition of 1936 in Dallas. Every single building from that Expo is still intact, and is known as FAIR PARK. It is one of the great Art Deco treasures of America.

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