Discuss Detroit » Archives - Beginning January 2007 » Xanadu « Previous Next »
Top of pageBottom of page

Kenp
Member
Username: Kenp

Post Number: 824
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 7:51 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.wwj.com/pages/10371 53.php?
Top of pageBottom of page

Mallory
Member
Username: Mallory

Post Number: 198
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 8:59 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great song by Rush. Decent soundtrack by ELO, if you're a fan. Movie sucked.

Seriously, do we need another casino? I like the Tishomingo plan, but seems almost too ambitious.
Top of pageBottom of page

Gnome
Member
Username: Gnome

Post Number: 117
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 8:59 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It sounds like some fantastical plan from the 1930's ... jet packs and heli-cars in everyone's floating house.

There is only one thing missing: a nail salon academy.
Top of pageBottom of page

Gazhekwe
Member
Username: Gazhekwe

Post Number: 710
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 9:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like the way this guy thinks. Selecting one backer from each ethnic community, and they would have to sponsor a travel office promoting Detroit in their home country. I think he needs to add US born people of color. Could such a plan actually bridge some of the divides?
Top of pageBottom of page

Southwestmap
Member
Username: Southwestmap

Post Number: 929
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 10:06 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gnome - also missing is a shrimp farm and a Magic Johnson Theater - how can it be complete without these things?
Top of pageBottom of page

Tetsua
Member
Username: Tetsua

Post Number: 1336
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 11:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wouldn't the other 3 casinos just bring up a lawsuit due to the fact that the 4th casino didn't go through the same selection process that they went through?
Top of pageBottom of page

Oakmangirl
Member
Username: Oakmangirl

Post Number: 464
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 12:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...A school where the students skip to school not skip school!

WTF? This has to win some sort of hyperbole award!This must be a school designed around a Webkinz curriculum. Better yet, since it's more this will be the casino that saves Detroit pap, why don't we have those gifted darlings suss out a way to beat the odds?
Top of pageBottom of page

Rb336
Member
Username: Rb336

Post Number: 2661
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 12:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is this the guy who refers to himself as "chief tomby"?
Top of pageBottom of page

Kenp
Member
Username: Kenp

Post Number: 827
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 1:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didnt think the Baptist were into gambling.
Top of pageBottom of page

Danny
Member
Username: Danny

Post Number: 6629
Registered: 02-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A 4th CaSINo. Detroit will be like a mixture of Altantic City and Branson in no time. Forget about the Motor City. Soon it would be Gambling-opolis.
Top of pageBottom of page

Detroitnerd
Member
Username: Detroitnerd

Post Number: 1473
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 1:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oakmangirl: You crack me up!
Top of pageBottom of page

Oakmangirl
Member
Username: Oakmangirl

Post Number: 465
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 1:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, if I could be a muse and roller skate all day, I'd be clamoring to teach at the Xanadu Academy.
Top of pageBottom of page

Bibs
Member
Username: Bibs

Post Number: 707
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 3:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Considering what happened in Lansing recently and the future health care obligations of the state of Michigan, I think a casino is the only way to fund the expansion of the existing facility or build a new facility.

I think a Xanadu casino proposal in Detroit was floated a while back. I'll search for it tonight.

Got a good laugh out of all the amusing comments. Let's tack on an indoor theme park financed by Michael Jackson.
Top of pageBottom of page

Rb336
Member
Username: Rb336

Post Number: 2667
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 3:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think this first came up around 2 years ago?
Top of pageBottom of page

Oakmangirl
Member
Username: Oakmangirl

Post Number: 466
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 3:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually...I was thinking a DYES Rollerball theme attraction just to run with the movie theme. Detroitnerd would be toast (unless his name is ironic).

Who would be our James Caan? I can't think of anyone both equally brooding and badass.
Top of pageBottom of page

Detroitnerd
Member
Username: Detroitnerd

Post Number: 1475
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 4:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought you WON when the steel ball crushed your head. Damn ...
Top of pageBottom of page

Oakmangirl
Member
Username: Oakmangirl

Post Number: 470
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 4:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haha. Just messing with you; of course, the steel ball could explain my inexplicable fascination with Xanadu.
Top of pageBottom of page

Jelk
Member
Username: Jelk

Post Number: 4650
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 4:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ROSEBUD!
Top of pageBottom of page

Jt1
Member
Username: Jt1

Post Number: 10351
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 4:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Actually...I was thinking a DYES Rollerball theme attraction just to run with the movie theme



We do have our very own roller derby league. maybe those women could get some jobs there.
Top of pageBottom of page

Dabirch
Member
Username: Dabirch

Post Number: 2428
Registered: 06-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

I can't think of anyone both equally brooding and badass.



Clearly you have never met Gannon.

Okay, maybe not Gannon.

How about Susanarosa?
Top of pageBottom of page

Novine
Member
Username: Novine

Post Number: 159
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 6:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's nothing like a bad economy to cause crackpot schemes to emerge into the daylight. Too bad the media makes no effort to filter this garbage out.
Top of pageBottom of page

Oakmangirl
Member
Username: Oakmangirl

Post Number: 472
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think roller ball is at all crackpot ;-) Just think of Council out on a special Belle Isle track with Kwame as team captain...much more entertaining than another casino.
Top of pageBottom of page

Fjw718
Member
Username: Fjw718

Post Number: 121
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

he's sold xanadu's to shelbyville, ogden and capital city!
Top of pageBottom of page

Viziondetroit
Member
Username: Viziondetroit

Post Number: 1126
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 8:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Xanadu was the name of a strip club on Woodward north of 7 mile..
Top of pageBottom of page

Gsgeorge
Member
Username: Gsgeorge

Post Number: 209
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This sounds like an ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE plan. Did you read what will happen near City Airport? Strip malls, a mega-church, and gambling all rolled into one! Come ON. This is an INSULT to the people of Detroit.
Top of pageBottom of page

Viziondetroit
Member
Username: Viziondetroit

Post Number: 1128
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 2:57 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think he forgot to mention the Cheese Cake Factory and ESPN Sports Zone will be anchored in his Cobopolitan Plan.

A skybridge will connect Cobo, City and Metro Airport
Top of pageBottom of page

Abracadabra
Member
Username: Abracadabra

Post Number: 97
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 3:19 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For a long time, out in the corn fields around Metro, there was a "future site of" sign up about the racino. I don't know if it's still there, but there has to be some other area that could use development besides a corn field.

The Cobo plan will have a hard time, the 3 current casinos had to fight pretty hard to get their agreement. It would, however, be a much better use of the waterfront than the current ugly monster.
Top of pageBottom of page

Mallory
Member
Username: Mallory

Post Number: 199
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 8:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Props on that one, Fjw718.
Top of pageBottom of page

Kenp
Member
Username: Kenp

Post Number: 832
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:07 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20071003/B IZ/710030334
Top of pageBottom of page

Rb336
Member
Username: Rb336

Post Number: 2683
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

no affiliation with the chickasaw and I know i've heard him refer to himself as "chief tromby"
Top of pageBottom of page

Wirt
Member
Username: Wirt

Post Number: 62
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not in until Ripley's 'Believe it or not' commits!
Top of pageBottom of page

Keystone
Member
Username: Keystone

Post Number: 270
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The real story is how could WWJ not validate this fairy tale before broadcast??
Top of pageBottom of page

Track75
Member
Username: Track75

Post Number: 2621
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's too bad developer George Babbitt passed away recently. This would have been a perfect fit for him.
Top of pageBottom of page

Oakmangirl
Member
Username: Oakmangirl

Post Number: 473
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^Didn't he choke on it?
Top of pageBottom of page

Detroitrise
Member
Username: Detroitrise

Post Number: 156
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's not right. It seems to me City Airport is the most valuable piece of land outside of the Neighborhoods around Downtown.
Top of pageBottom of page

6nois
Member
Username: 6nois

Post Number: 524
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 1:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This plan is just crazy. It makes no sense and is just strange to say the least. It was like they took a wheel labeled things they could build and spun it to come up with this plan.
Top of pageBottom of page

Oakmangirl
Member
Username: Oakmangirl

Post Number: 476
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 1:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As weird as it all seems, it's not that far out- everything pretty much centers on being a conformist, good little American and reflects conservative social norms. The development is essentially a microcosm of any podunk town, USA: you sin at the casino; repent at the mega-church; burn off the Taco Bell at the gym; test drive cars (hoo, boy) and buy them at the "virtual" dealer; shop yourself into an opiate-like euphoria at the 4 acre strip mall; repent some more; and make damn sure your kids learn how to compete globally. It's already the game of life for many people, now envisioned by Chief Tomby (don't forget they're software developers).

Frankly, it sends the message that we're so far gone we need the Chief to prescribe life for us; it's way more insulting than that wig hater in Columbus, but more insidious. Truly a Brave New Detroit.
Top of pageBottom of page

Scottr
Member
Username: Scottr

Post Number: 793
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 2:37 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this cracks me up...
quote:

1) Virtual Auto Dealership. The group says its in final discussions with an established private company that owns more than ten (10) dealerships. The idea is to have a Tri-Brand Dealership.

okay, so this part isn't so funny. i don't understand the point though. is it because we have a shortage of dealers?
quote:

2) Computer Science and Math School. This will be a private computer and math science school for gifted children, segmenting the Tri-County area. The school will be high –tech with large stereo screens, and virtual classes, allowing the students to experience going back in time, seeing life at the time they are studying, or the history of technology: the origin and the players. Tishomingo Park, is working with the Skillman Foundation. They have agreed to locate the sponsor and owner of the school. The school is proposed to be a high achievement school for gifted children. A school where the students skip to school not skip school! A school where the students cannot wait to get there and do not want to leave.

2 thoughts: good luck with that, and what the hell kind of utopia do you live in? skipping to school?
quote:

3) PowerHouse Gym – High Tech. Tishomingo has a solid agreement with PowerHouse Gym.

Well, I'll give him credit for the solid agreement. That's better than we have on most developments around here.
quote:

4) Retail Mall. Tishomingo’s lawyers are finalizing Letters of Intent with an experienced “Urban Retail Developer.” This Strip Mall will be located on approximately four (4) acres.

Great news! It's about time we get a strip mall around here. We all know that the key to Detroit's revival is a strip mall. Even better if the strip mall had a check cashing store and a liquor store.
quote:

5) A Large Mega Seat Baptist Church. The proposed Church would be a large mega seat facility with approx. ten to fifteen thousand seats, uniquely designed with large stereo screens etc. The large Mega Church would give the Pastor, the unique ability to market this church to various national church groups offering this church as their convention venue, bringing in millions of dollars to the Eastside community. We have selected Rev. Jim Holly and the Little Rock Baptist Church as the component.

Okay, I'm not particularly religious, so i have to ask - is there a big calling for something like this? And what's the advantage over, say, the Cobo center? I must also point out, this reminds me somewhat of the 'Character Inn' in Flint, which was a hotel, with convention space, where they banned alcohol, smoking, most music (only 'high-quality, melodious music'), and if i recall correctly, dancing. Needless to say, it didn't last long, and will probably be sold to someone who plans on turning it into college dorms (oh, the irony...) point being, i don't really think there is the market for a center dedicated solely to religious conventions.
quote:

6) Performance Track. The following is the way in which Tishomingo envisions having one of the Big Four Automakers involved and which will literally have people from all over the Tri-County Area standing in lines to experience and test drive any of the brands the company manufacturers. We are currently talking to one of the automakers as our target auto company. The world will take their hats off to what we do together as a team, for this “blighted” area near one of their auto manufacturing plants.

performance track? why? this guy has never driven on 696, has he? Really, this sounds WAY too optimistic. Unless you're letting me take ferraris around a track at 170 mph, then you might have people standing in lines. but not for a new buick. Also, Big Four? This is Detroit, I'm sure Toyota isn't looking to build a 'performance track' here, especially when it says 'near one of their auto manufacturing plants', further ruling out Toyota. Maybe Packard? finally, a use for the Packard plant!!
Top of pageBottom of page

Scottr
Member
Username: Scottr

Post Number: 794
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 3:19 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wow, the 'proposed xanadu plans' pdf is comedy gold. i especially like the 12 foot wall surrounding the park, with 'tall large black rod iron medieval gates' at each of three (3!) openings in the wall. And when they close each day, they cling with a sound as unique as the 'London Clock!' how wonderful!

Perhaps I will take this more seriously if this group, which says, and i quote, 'We have done our homework,' can actually use the correct terms, such as 'wrought iron' or 'Big Ben.' I mean, 'Big Ben' is 3rd grade homework, and he failed at that! I wouldn't trust this bunch with my own kids'(3rd grade) homework, and he's proposing a school for the gifted?

Don't get me going on how L. Brooks repealed the SBT (he may have fought for that, but HE did not repeal it.) Or that poor writing makes it appear as if Kwame pushed hard to get the casino proposal passed in 1996, instead of Archer (maybe kwame did, but archer was easily far more prominent, so give the man some credit). Or if Cobo is even capable of having a high-rise built on top of it.

I'm glad that the city and state laughed this one off. This would make AutoWorld look successful.
Top of pageBottom of page

Oakmangirl
Member
Username: Oakmangirl

Post Number: 477
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 8:24 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scottr,

It's funny but pathetic that "Chief Tomby" would even consider us a viable market.
Top of pageBottom of page

Rustic
Member
Username: Rustic

Post Number: 3178
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 8:30 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey, alls they gotta do is sign up Ernie Harwell and I'm sold ...
Top of pageBottom of page

Bibs
Member
Username: Bibs

Post Number: 708
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 10:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ernie Harwell - "Is that something on the Internet?" Cracks me up every time I hear that ad on the radio.
Top of pageBottom of page

Atwater
Member
Username: Atwater

Post Number: 10
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 12:33 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

"Tomby told The News in 2005 that he was a member of the Nevada Band of Chickasaw Indians. Tony Choate, a spokesman for the Chickasaw in Okalahoma, said Tomby had no affiliation with the tribe, and that no Chickasaw facilities or groups are based in Nevada."



Ha, reminds me of that left-wing loon Ward Churchill, who, besides his despicable fabricated historical and political incitements, also claimed to be an Indian..

quote:

Churchill claims ancestry from three Indian tribes, Creek, Cherokee and Métis, and had stated that he was an enrolled member of the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians.[12][13][14] However, the United Keetoowah Band responded to Churchill's claim by clarifying that he was never an enrolled member, but was enrolled as an honorary associate member in 1994, as were Bill Clinton and other honorees. Keetoowah enrollment committee member Ernestine Berry stated that, " [Churchill] could not prove he was an Indian at all."[7][15][16]
The Rocky Mountain News, in 2005, published a genealogy of Churchill, and reported "no evidence of a single Indian ancestor" [of Churchill's]. The News reports that both of Churchill's birth parents are listed as white on the 1930 census, as are all of his other known ancestors on previous censuses and other official documents.[17] The Denver Post's genealogical investigation resulted in the same conclusion.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W ard_Churchill

and more at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W ard_Churchill_misconduct_issue s

Add Your Message Here
Posting is currently disabled in this topic. Contact your discussion moderator for more information.