 
Detblue
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Username: Detblue
Post Number: 39
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:48 pm: |    |
I heard on the radio this morning that there was a possible new casino plan with a cobo expansion. Does anyone have any additional information about this?? |
Johnlodge
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Post Number: 2904
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:49 pm: | |
See the Xanadu thread. |
Detblue
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:57 pm: | |
thanx |
Downtown_remix
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Username: Downtown_remix
Post Number: 503
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 4:42 am: | |
someone mentioned this to me. This would be incredible and the state may not have a choice but to make this happen, we must move this city and state to the next level. By all means neccessary. |
Abracadabra
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 5:27 am: | |
I have to disagree. There is a finite amount of money that will be spent on gambling. The majority of patrons of our current casinos are from metro Detroit, and the rest is from people willing to travel from Ohio and Indiana. Detroit would have to be a gaming or entertainment destination for this to work, ala Vegas or Atlantic City, and that would require a lot more than four casinos. I do agree that something needs to be done with Cobo, but gaming is not the answer. |
Rjk
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Post Number: 895
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 7:04 am: | |
^ The three existing casinos may have their bottom line affect somewhat with a 4th casino added, but none of them would fold up their tent and leave town because they're not making enough money. Those places are raking in the cash. The only people who should care about limiting the number of casinos are the casinos themselves and that's based on greed. This area could easily support another casino. |
Upinottawa
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Username: Upinottawa
Post Number: 971
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 9:24 am: | |
Considering the fact that the overwhelming majority of the area's casino patrons live within an hour's drive of the current 4 casinos, adding one more casino is likely to just spread thinner the current gamblers. One extra casino is unlikely to contribute to create an instant critical mass of casinos.
Let's face it, the Detroit area has only two true "urban" (i.e. walkable to and from other attractions) and one of them requires a trip across an international border. A Cobo casino would slightly alter this as people could walk between Cobo and Greektown, but that is a long way away from creating a Las Vegas or Atlantic City atmosphere. |
Umcs
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Username: Umcs
Post Number: 96
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 9:43 am: | |
Thumbs down to the proposal. In theory it might work, sort of like communism. In practice, it would be a dud. |
Detroitprincess
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 1:49 pm: | |
Opening another casino is great! First of all, any new business in Detroit is good news. The ghost town needs to come alive again. Having an entertainment city is what we need to bring tourist to the city. We need anything we can get! Having more then one casino give people options to go from one casino to another. Just like they do in Atlantic City and Vegas. It's not just about the Casino. It's about the business(retail) that would start opening up on the outskirts of the casino. I think we are on a good and smart path. |
Upinottawa
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Post Number: 972
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 3:03 pm: | |
Detroit does not want to fall into the trap of relying on casinos to be a magic bullet solution to the city's problems. Although the casinos are successful, they will not and have not alone increased Detroit's fortunes (no pun intended).
That being said, Windsor's main convention centre will now be housed at Caesars Windsor (Casino Windsor). This move is expected to significantly help Windsor's convention industry and the Casino is funding (through tax dollars) the new convention centre.
Can Detroit just award another casino licence? Are there not conditions restricting the city from issuing a new licence to operate another competing casino? |
Gistok
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Post Number: 5468
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 3:40 pm: | |
The 3 casino licenses were the result of a state referendum that was placed on the state ballot via a large number of signed petitions. The ballot initiative specified only 3 casinos.
With the 3 existing casinos likely to lobby against any additional ones, that count is unlikely to change.
It could also be changed via the state legislature. But if the successful lobbying against entertainment tickets being taxed is any indication of political muscle, it is doubtful that a 4th casino would make it thru the legislature. |
Oakmangirl
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Post Number: 483
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 3:49 pm: | |
It's about the business(retail) that would start opening up on the outskirts of the casino. I think we are on a good and smart path.
I'd say we're on a road to nowhere. If 3 casinos haven't created a thriving city; please explain how a #4 will be the tipping point? |
Peter
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 4:15 pm: | |
What about a new casino at MCS? |
Upinottawa
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Post Number: 973
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 5:00 pm: | |
Peter, I am assume you are joking.
If Detroit were to add more casinos (at some time in the future), the new casino(s) should be in close proximity to the current casinos (more likely to just one of them considering how spread out the current casinos are). Detroit doesn't have a casino district: it has casino islands. The casinos may like being islands, but that set up does not give Detroit an interesting, walkable casino district that would help lure tourists. |
Softailrider
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Username: Softailrider
Post Number: 70
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 10:20 pm: | |
If they open a 4th casino on top of Cobo , or in the basement of Cobo , or wherever it will be a huge success . The simple reason for this is , people around here love to gamble . Remember, I said the casino will be a success . I'm not saying it's going to translate to other great things for the city . |
Abracadabra
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Post Number: 111
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 12:15 am: | |
"The only people who should care about limiting the number of casinos are the casinos themselves and that's based on greed."
Or, the people that work at the current casinos, and that's based on making a living. A new casino will not draw more people, but divide the current crop of gamblers further. When Windsor went non-smoking, all three of our casinos saw a huge increase in business. Those weren't new customers.
"It's about the business(retail) that would start opening up on the outskirts of the casino."
What retail? You mean the BP station outside of Motor City? The only casino that has any businesses nearby is Greektown, and that area was already the most vibrant in the city.
Our casinos are their own destination. They get increased business from other happenings in Detroit, sporting events, etc., but not the other way around. People that go to gamble typically get off the freeway, park at the casino, gamble, and hop right back on the freeway. The only benefit to the surrounding areas, aside from tax revenue, are to the bums that have more people to hit up.
(Message edited by Abracadabra on October 06, 2007) |
Peter
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Post Number: 110
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 2:41 pm: | |
I think a casino is the only thing that could fill up the MCS, and if a casino were to come in they would have the cash to rehab the building. The 3 casinos certainly don't create a tight knit district so I don't think the proximity of MCS would hurt anything. There is enough money to go around and a new casino at MCS would bring in thousands of construction jobs, hundreds of permanent jobs and the eye-sore that is the MCS would be redeveloped. What is the harm here? |