  Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 67 Registered: 11-2006 |
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20061231/S PORTS08/612310348/1004/SPORTS Nice to read his thoughts, but not much new to readers of this forum though. Terry writes about JLA: "I am conceding that it should be built behind the Fox Theatre because it is good to create a stadium and entertainment district to go with Ford Field and Comerica Park." That has been my view - namely that Detroit could have the best 'stadium and entertainment district' in the country from Ford Field to MGM Grand Hotel-Casino. No other city could have so much in such a small area. (Message edited by emu_steve on December 31, 2006) | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 382 Registered: 03-2006 |
sports city baby | ||
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2006 |
Doesn't Cleveland have the Jake, the Q, and Cleveland Browns stadium all next to each other? | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 547 Registered: 08-2006 |
Browns stadium is on the lakefront, The Jake and the Q are next to each other on the south side of downtown, and the convention center is in the middle of downtown across the square from Key Tower. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 4173 Registered: 11-2004 |
I wonder what the new place will be called. When you think about it, the Joe Louis Arena is one of the few in the NHL that hasn't sold off the rights to corporate America to name it. Outside of the Joe, only Madison Square Garden, Mellon Arena, and the Nassau Coliseum are the only ones that haven't been compromised. | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 901 Registered: 11-2003 |
Compuware Arena | ||
Ltdave Member Username: Ltdave Post Number: 14 Registered: 09-2006 |
riiiigghttt... like Karmanos will pay for Ilitch's arena. what are they going to do, move the Hurricanes up here to play in it? david | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 125 Registered: 07-2006 |
If it has to be sponsored, i would prefer it to have the Cadillac name. It's relevant both because of the founder of the city and because of GM, plus it sounds classy, and they get money for selling the rights, helping to cover the cost of a new arena. Although in general I hate sponsored names of stadiums, sometimes it can be done right - Ford Field being one of them, since not only is it relevant to Detroit, but it's the name of the owner, plus they get the benefits of sponsorship. everyone wins. so i won't condemn selling naming rights entirely. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 68 Registered: 11-2006 |
Little Caesars Arena ;-) Either that or Dominos Arena (I can't believe I said that. my bad). One of the things we haven't discussed (to my knowledge) is how much would this arena cost? What would the City of Detroit's contribution (if anything) be? If Ilitch is going to essentially fund the arena and build it on land he owns, then he should name it "Little Caesars Arena". If the City of Detroit wants to kick in a big chunk of change, etc. then the name could be something particular to Detroit. Crazy thought. How about Olympia? (but there is no commercial benefit to that name unless Ilitch can brand his "Olympia Development"- nostalgia yes, but commercially not wise. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 69 Registered: 11-2006 |
Tangent thought: For those who wonder if the arena could be built elsewhere (other then behind the Fox), does the City of Detroit have a parcel of land say 15+ acres (rough guess) that it could essentially lease to Ilitch to build an arena and which makes sense to both Ilitch and the city? Ilitch would then get stuck developing all that land behind the Fox. I've assumed the purpose of that land ultimately was a new hockey arena and if not, Ilitch would need to decide what to do with it. | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 126 Registered: 07-2006 |
i doubt it would be little caesars arena. he didn't do it with comerica, for one thing, so i see no reason to expect he would do it now. but most importantly, why would he just take the money out of one pocket to put it in the other? better to get someone else to give him a few million for it than to pay for it all himself. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 70 Registered: 11-2006 |
Scott, Whom else might be interested in naming rights? If GMAC wasn't being sold or whatever, they would have been a good candidate. I believe they have done sports commercial sponsorship (e.g., GMAC Bowl). GMAC Arena has a nice sound. | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 127 Registered: 07-2006 |
i think gmac arena sounds a little too corporate for me. if gm was to get the sponsorship, i would hope they would stick with one of their automotive brands. the list of potential sponsors could be endless. any of the automakers could be interested, despite their financial difficulties (although chrysler arena is a little too close to crisler arena). how many other companies are based in metro detroit? almost any of them that have any kind of consumer products would be possibilities - auto suppliers not so much though, because they have little if any need to advertise their name to the general public. non-detroit companies could buy the rights too, although personally, i would hope it would stay local. maybe hungry howies?  | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 4174 Registered: 11-2004 |
Oh how I would love it if the new arena were named the Mr. FoFo's Arena or the Dot & Etta's Shrimp Shack Arena just for one day. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 11065 Registered: 10-2003 |
Better Made Arena or Faygo Fieldhouse sound good to me. | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 2254 Registered: 12-2004 |
You're all wrong. We should call it the Bouzouki Arena. Just think of the marketing possibilities; of what could be done with the two goals. | ||
Enduro Member Username: Enduro Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2006 |
Selling naming rights for stadiums and arenas is just tacky and cheap. The only exceptions being when the owner of the team does it (Ford Field or Wrigley Field for example). If I were a wealthy man I'd love to buy naming rights for all these stadiums and christen them with names like "Cheap Whore Arena", "You Paid Good Money To Sit In This Giant Advertisement Bowl" or "You'll Never Escape Our Corporation's Media Stranglehold Field" or perhaps "The Place You Go To See The Sporting Team Hailing From Your Metropolitan Area Buy More Pepsi Coleseum". | ||
Jasoncw Member Username: Jasoncw Post Number: 317 Registered: 07-2005 |
Supersport, I think either of those names would be awesome. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 4175 Registered: 11-2004 |
When it seriously comes to naming of the arenas (even though my tongue-in-cheek idea of Mr. FoFo's still sounds good to me), i think it's purely business at that point. Whoever ponies up the biggest wad of cash gets to name it. All of that just goes to help defray the cost of the place. I wish it could be as simple as naming it after a local hero or something historical again; but alas in this day of big money stadiums, I think the rights to an arena are up for grabs. | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 128 Registered: 07-2006 |
Sometimes, although not often, it can work that way and still be sponsored. the naming rights of the former ima sports arena in flint was sold to Perani's Hockey World, and is now known as Perani Arena. Bob Perani was a hockey player for the flint generals, one of only 5 to have his number retired, and Perani's Hockey World is a flint-based retailer. So we ended up with an arena named after a locally-famous hockey player, but still gets money from a local sponsor. I will admit, for a time it was called the very long-winded 'Perani's Hockey World Arena and Event Center'. of course, no one called it that, and is still called the ima as often as not. In any case, the fact is that the naming rights will be sold, and it will have some huge corporation's name on it. The best i think we can hope for is that it is something local and preferably relevant to detroit in some way. | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 1013 Registered: 03-2006 |
Big Boy Arena | ||
Christos Member Username: Christos Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2006 |
I think it should be named after a prominent Detroiter, just like Joe Lewis Area was. Coleman A. Young Garden Steve Yserman Arena Kwame Kilpatrick Arena Emanuel Steward Arena Matt Millen Garden The Jjabaplex Iggy Pop Place The Madonadome Rosa Parks Arena (wouldn't it be kinda cool if some company bought the rights to name the arena, and decided to name it after someone like Rosa Parks?) Or geographic location- Harmonie Park Gardens Grand Circus Gardens The Motown (or Motor City) Center (or Centre) | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 675 Registered: 09-2005 |
I suspect General Motors Arena/Center/Place/Gardens is out as Vancouver's arena is sponsored by GM (GM Place). Cadillac Center would be a great name. | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 403 Registered: 01-2006 |
"Cadillac Center would be a great name." Just imagine the number of people that would get off the Cadillac Center people mover station expecting to be at the rink and end up walking 1/2 mile. lol! | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4142 Registered: 10-2003 |
Are you all really that small-minded that you are speculating on the potential naming rights buyer for a hockey arena that doesn't exist and construction plans have not yet been announced? Vandelay Latex Arena. | ||
Ohudson Member Username: Ohudson Post Number: 163 Registered: 09-2004 |
Did anyone notice that the Orlando Arena has been renamed to Amway Arena: http://www.nba.com/magic/news/ The_arena_in_Orlando_To_Become -198984-800.html | ||
Hardhat Member Username: Hardhat Post Number: 188 Registered: 10-2003 |
What type of presence does GM have in Vancouver, anyway? | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 678 Registered: 09-2005 |
I would suspect little to none. Sponsoring the city's main arena may provide some presence, however. In theory, any company that really wanted the exposure could pay to get its name on any new Detroit building. (an aside: what about Northwest Airlines Arena?) | ||
Border5150 Member Username: Border5150 Post Number: 179 Registered: 03-2004 |
How about... "Hockeytown"? Just a thought... | ||
Dnvn522 Member Username: Dnvn522 Post Number: 170 Registered: 11-2004 |
I'm sorry...but whatever they name it, I will forever see the place as: The Jjabaplex LMAO!!! Nice one Christos! | ||
Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986 Post Number: 205 Registered: 01-2004 |
What relevance does Rosa Parks have to hockey? The bus terminal is relevant and enough……….sorry Christos,the other names are horrible, especially anything named after that scumbag Colman A. Young. I think city hall will be jinxed with inadequacy and incompetence as long as it is named after that clown. | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 2014 Registered: 10-2003 |
Smogboy--Mellon Arena, formerly known as the Pittsburgh Civic Center, is actually named after Mellon Bank. | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 3518 Registered: 10-2003 |
T Kelly why is Coleman a scumbag exactly? | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 240 Registered: 02-2006 |
Why isn't he? | ||
Christos Member Username: Christos Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2006 |
Thanks Dnvn522! I've been posting on this site for about 6 years (though i did take a recent 2 year hiatus) and jjaba's insights on the city are incredible. We, at detroityes should make it a personal goal to name SOMETHING after him- or at least only refer to the new Red Wings home as "The Jjabaplex" | ||
Christos Member Username: Christos Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2006 |
Tkelly1986, what did Joe Lewis have to do with hockey? I was half-joking about those names. I do like the "Hockeytown" idea though. If they must do a corporate name, I think it would be cool if they at least add that to the name. Like "Conglomicorp Arena at Hockeytown Gardens" or "Conglomicorp Arena in Hockeytown," or something like that. | ||
Sirrealone Member Username: Sirrealone Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2007 |
How about "The Little Caesars Pizza-rena"? | ||
Detjaymo Member Username: Detjaymo Post Number: 32 Registered: 12-2004 |
Why not the Olympia Entertainment Center? | ||
Christos Member Username: Christos Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2006 |
That was the rumor for some time- that Ilitch was going to build a new "Olympia Area" on Grand Blvd. behind the Fox. For a while rumor had it that he wanted to level the GAR building in the process, though now it looks that Ilitch came to his senses and wants to preserve that building. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 83 Registered: 11-2006 |
Christos, I've only been on this forum two months, but I did find a "Hall Of Fame" post (see HOF on the menu bar at top) on Ilitch and a possible new arena. Think it is dated 8/11/06. It has a LOT of detail about Fox, GAR, etc. I go back to that thread for reference and details about what might happen with a new arena. (Message edited by emu_steve on January 16, 2007) | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 431 Registered: 01-2006 |
See, if they were to take my idea and turn the massive Packard Plant into the largest urban renewal project in US History that would include over 1 million square feet of office/retail/entertainment all centered around the New Olympia it truly would be a "hockeytown". | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 2061 Registered: 06-2004 |
quote: You might want to check on why they call it the Mellon Arena... | ||
Ordinary Member Username: Ordinary Post Number: 108 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hey, Why didn't Terry Foster say anything about the Pistons? Bring the Pistons back home! | ||
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100 Post Number: 246 Registered: 12-2006 |
Amen. All 4 in one spot would be nice! | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 433 Registered: 01-2006 |
Davidson is making a killing up at The Palace. It's one of the oldest buildings in the league, but still one of the nicest. There is no way the pistons come downtown for at least 25 years or so. | ||
Fastcarsfreedom Member Username: Fastcarsfreedom Post Number: 115 Registered: 11-2005 |
Lots of negativity here about naming rights--but that's the way of the world. No matter who pays for the bricks and mortar, it's a way to defray costs--and businesses are generally fairly willing to poney up the bucks to fly their flag. When the Corel name came off the arena in Ottawa, there was actually more than one company bidding to replace it. As for precendence--Olympia Entertainment Center could work--Gaylord Entertainment named it's arena in Nashville after itself. Not sure if that was by choice or just a fluke of no one else buying the rights. My guess is that the name would be sold off outside of Ilitch Holdings as was done with Comerica Park. And please tell me the person that included Coleman Young's name in the list of potentials was being sarcastic. |
