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Eric
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Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 11:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good to see the DPOA putting aside petty turf battles and union protectionism for the safety of Detroiters.

Deputies could police Detroit buses
But city cops union threatens to sue

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20070118/NEWS01/ 701180388/1003
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Ray1936
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Posted on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 1:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A union's function is to protect the jobs of their members. That's not a petty item.
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Jt1
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Posted on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 1:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is certainly not apetty item when they protect indifferent and lazy workers.

Maybe the union should work with the officers on how to be more efficient or how to give a dman about the population.
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Southwestmap
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Posted on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 1:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The cops I know aren't lazy - they are gagged and hand-cuffed by weasily executives and judges who play to the electorate.
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Jt1
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Posted on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 1:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good point.
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Ltdave
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Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 4:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

unfortunately the National Labor Relations Board has set down rules that say, "you WILL protect and defend the indifferent and lazy workers."

union representatives can be sued in court for failing to do so. i work with a former union steward (before he joined Chrysler) who was named in a lawsuit...

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Danny
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Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 6:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a good ideal. That would stop the conflicts from ignorant folks in the city busses and abroad.
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 8:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think we should put trainman on the bus and whenever a disturbance happens he can start telling the agressor about Livonia, Transit, and how MDOT underfunds the buses (in reality it is the legislature that underfunds transportation period, have you looked at the roads??)
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Warriorfan
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Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 11:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Warren Evans could do a lot for Detroit, but nobody with any authority or influence in the city seems to want his help.
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Dougw
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Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

A union's function is to protect the jobs of their members. That's not a petty item.


It may not be petty, but it's still REALLY bad for the city to be overly influenced by unions in this manner. Does anyone know if such a lawsuit would have any merit? I would hope the city wouldn't give up on the idea just from the threat of a possible suit.
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 1:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is pretty much every cities' Police force represented by a union? If that is the case, then it seems as though this is hardly an issue. It could be the case anywhere, right?
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Dougw
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Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 5:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a good point. I overstated it a bit... I suppose the police unions in a lot of cities would also raise a fuss if the county took over some aspect of their patrol.

But my concern here is that I'm afraid the city of Detroit is more likely to give in to this type of union threat than most other cities, when it's clearly in the best interests of the public to allow for this type of shift, since the current city police force needs all the help it can get.

Here's hoping the city & county can still make this happen.
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Trainman
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Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We should put cops on all the buses. Then we could save our tax dollars by not having them drive over and visit the donut shops. I'm totally in favor of mass transit and was very opposed to the Livonia opt out. Our leaders in Livonia are very proud of the freeway expansions and have no regard for SMART. The problem in Livonia is the same as in every other suburb and that problem is that We have NO Mass Transit Leadership at all.

Unless, you want to pay tax on fast food by changing the state constitution to allow county sales taxes. If this is what you want then please support this idea because this is free country and we have the right to vote.

Then maybe I will get my bus service back in Livonia. And if I do then great because I really do like SMART which is exactly why I want all you to ride their buses and fill them all up.

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