Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve
Post Number: 96 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 9:54 am: | |
http://www.crainsdetroit.com/a pps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2007 0122/SUB/701190331/1061 EMU is self financing 100M for their science building (I was a grad student in that bldg. long ago - it was mediocre back then). WSU has raised over 350M in a capital campaign for 3 major buildings. Like isn't the state mostly responsible for funding capital items for higher education? Like I can see student fees, capital campaigns for athletic stadia and arena, auditorums, etc etc. but like for a SCIENCE building???? If the state won't finance a science building for Eastern or a School of Business Ad. building for Wayne, what are they financing????? |
Bobj Member Username: Bobj
Post Number: 1676 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 9:58 am: | |
I've heard from people that I know that work in higher ed that the university funding has dramatically changed in the last 10 years or so. The State funds about 1/3, tution 1/3, and other sources about 1/3. So waiting around for the State could leave you behind |
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve
Post Number: 97 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 10:11 am: | |
Yep, Bob. There are now 'haves and have nots' among universities. Universities with huge endowments will do well, others will not. Too bad there is plenty of need for the UofMs, WSU and EMUs. Different missions and different student populations, but still the same need to get a medical doctor or teacher educated. I looked at the WSU capital campaign and can't figure out why the state isn't funding say HALF of the cost of these three new buildings? |
The_nerd Member Username: The_nerd
Post Number: 371 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 10:16 am: | |
EMU spent several years petitioning the state to fund renovations to MJ and Pray-Harrold. Both buildings were constructed in the 1960s and have yet to see major renovations. Despite EMU's need the state told the university to basically wait until the economy improves (insert Michigan economy joke here), however since initial requests both building have deteriorated to dangerously subpar conditions (Pray-Harrold had a substantial fire way back in 2000). It's sad, but Michigan's perinnial budget problems make state university funding more and more private. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 308 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 10:23 am: | |
I know firsthand that the state funds next to nothing at U of M. |
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve
Post Number: 98 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 11:04 am: | |
Iheartthed, you are actually making my point. The state essentially says to the universities: "Swim or sink - you are getting little help from us." The schools with huge endowments will prosper while the EMU's will suffer. |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 925 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 11:06 am: | |
Like, do they teach college students how to communicate in the english language? |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 3465 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 11:22 am: | |
Like, didn't the state put up an entire year worth of its' bond funding for the U of M Hospital, like 10-15 years ago? |
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 299 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 11:54 am: | |
Yeah private universities!! |
Zephyrprocess Member Username: Zephyrprocess
Post Number: 225 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 12:14 pm: | |
quote:didn't the state put up an entire year worth of its' bond funding for the U of M Hospital...10-15 years ago The current University Hospital opened in 1986, so bonds would have been floated several years prior: something closer to 25 years ago. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 309 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 12:38 pm: | |
Like, how many other projects has U of M had in the last 10-15 years? |
Jeduncan Member Username: Jeduncan
Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 1:06 pm: | |
ah, this thread is making me laugh. |
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve
Post Number: 101 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 1:33 pm: | |
A few years ago I saw a list of UofM projects being built or planned. Think the price tag was huge. Might have been in the nearly 2B range. I don't worry about UofM. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 847 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 9:30 am: | |
Also you should keep in mind that debacle at EMU where the state built the giant library using bond funds and the U used their own funds to build a presidential palace behind a Walgreens! |
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve
Post Number: 106 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 11:40 am: | |
This is a question, not a statement: Did EMU use bond funds for the library or was it a very large gift from Mr. Halle? Or some combination of both? (I do know that Mr. Halle contributed big bucks but I don't know what % of the total cost that it was). Yes, the president's house continues to haunt EMU. |
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn
Post Number: 32 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 10:30 am: | |
U.of Michigan-all 3 campuses, have their buildings mostly, if not all, constructed from private funds. Donors like to see their names on buildings. The meager state funding kicks in when it comes to paying secretaries, custodians, cooks, i.e. the people who actually run the place. |