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Aiw
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 7:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After demolition, but before Cobo - P.D.J..

Urban renewal, and civic center construction was in full swing in 1957 in both downtowns.
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Douglasm
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 7:11 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nifty postcard, Andrew that dredges up memories of going to the waterfront by the New York Central's Third Street Freight House to look at the D&C liners tied up to the pier. The freight house was flattened for Cobo.

The little white building just to the left of the flour mill, that was the Georgian Bay Lines terminal, wasn't it?
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1953
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 9:17 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Aiw. Sweet find!
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Gravitymachine
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 9:33 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i see what appears to be a steam generation/incinerator station just on the north side of the cobo site, that's no longer there as well
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Goat
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 10:16 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An absolute fantastic find AIW!
Just look at the density of the downtown areas. How wonderful! Don't forget the Windsor Market up in the top right corner (where the Casino is now). The gas station has a nice art deco/moderne style. Just another building that "needed" to be demolished.
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Lowell
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 10:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting piece of history AIW. Great stuff as usual.

The building of Dieppe Park prompted a question in my mind. Why was that name Dieppe chosen?

The well known disastrous Dieppe Raid fell heavily on the Canadians who suffered huge losses. My question is, were Windsorite and Essex county particularly affected and was this what prompted the memorial garden to be constructed and so named?
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The Dieppe Raid, also known as The Battle of Dieppe or Operation Jubilee, during World War II, was an Allied attack on the German-occupied port of Dieppe, Seine-Maritime on the Northern coast of France on August 19, 1942. Over 6,000 infantrymen, predominantly Canadian, were supported by large British naval and air contingents. Intended to seize and hold a major port for a short period, both to prove it was possible and to gather intelligence from prisoners and captured materials while assessing the German responses, the raid was also intended to use air power to draw the Luftwaffe into a large, planned encounter.

The raid was generally considered to be an unmitigated tactical disaster, with no major objectives accomplished. 4,384 of the 6,086 men who made it ashore were either killed, wounded, or captured. The RAF and RCAF failed to lure the Luftwaffe into open battle, and lost 119 planes, whilst the Royal Navy suffered 555 casualties. The catastrophe at Dieppe may have later influenced Allied preparations for Operation Torch and D-Day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieppe_Raid

"Dieppe Meditation"

Dieppe Park Windsor
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Aiw
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 11:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Dieppe Gardens

Location:
Foot of Ouellette Avenue, on the banks of the Detroit River
Dieppe Gardens are named in memory of the many members of the Essex-Kent Scottish Regiment who lost their lives during the World War II landing at Dieppe, France in 1942. The park is heavily planted with brilliantly coloured annuals and perennials. It features many monuments including monuments to the Canadian Army and Navy.

For years the property was used as a docking site by the Detroit-Windsor Ferry Company, and several cottages, retail stores, hotels and other businesses were established. In the late 1950s, these buildings were purchased and demolished by the City so that the site could be developed into a major riverfront park.



http://www.citywindsor.ca/0003 50.asp?parks=dieppe
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Douglasm
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 4:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is Dieppe Gardens where the Lancaster bomber was mounted, and the CN steam locomotive is displayed?
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Upinottawa
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 4:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Lancaster was in Jackson park (Ouellette and Tecumseh). I believe the locomotive falls within the eastern boundary of Dieppe Gardens (I am not sure exactly where Dieppe Gardens proper ends).
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Goat
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 4:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Lanc used to be located in Dieppe park many years ago but was moved in the mid '60s to Jackson Park. It is now being restored so that it will one day be able to taxi (it will never fly because they cut out a part of teh main frame when they mounted it on the pedestal). It will be 1 of only 3 (possibly 4) Lancs that are still in existence worldwide.

Lowell, The Essex Scottish (now Essex-Kent Scottish) regiment was used during the raid on Dieppe and suffered very heavy losses. This was another Mountbatten fuck up and sealed his fate (he was relegated to the backroom after this fiasco).
On a positive note, many lessons were learned from this landing that were used for D-Day (a little fact: The "D" in D-Day stood for...Day)and helped to keep losses lower than what would have been a possible massacre.

My great uncle (on my step-father's side) died at Dieppe at the age of 18. When they were supposed to go across the strait in June he was too ill and would have missed the landings. But since it was pushed up to August 19 1942, he had recovered from his bout with pneumonia and had to go. In a twist of fate he wrote his mother a thank you letter thanking her for everything she had ever done for him but he would not see her again. But not to worry because he would be in a better place and wait for her. He never made it off the beach. The letter is still kept by the family on their mantle.
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Ltdave
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 6:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there is a flying Lancaster bomber in the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum up in Hamilton, Ont...

you can get a flight on it in the right seat for what used to be $3500...

david
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Milwaukee
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 7:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow! Detroit looked a lot better. A lot fuller. Great post card. Thanks AIW!
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Charlottepaul
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 8:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Really? I was looking at that 50s post card, and thinking that it made Detroit look like crap and how much better downtown looks now...
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Milwaukee
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 8:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like how the Guardian was so prominent in the skyline. Today it seems to be covered up.

No freeways cutting downtown apart is nice. Plus, not many if any surface lots.
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Rbdetsport
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 9:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Campus Martius definetly has a lot more prominence in the skyline back then.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 10:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great memories. Thanks Andrew.
Windsor looks quit sleepy back then.
In 1957, Detroit probably had nearly 2 Million and atleast ranks #5 in USA cities.

jjaba, Proudly Westside (of Cobo Hall)
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Walkerpub
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Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 7:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For those interested in the history of the Essex Scottish Regiment and the aforementioned Dieppe disaster, we published a magnificent light read on the subject (832 pages to be exact- also doubles as a fine door stop):

http://walkerville.com/dutynob lydone/index.html
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Catman_dude
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Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 11:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see the two Boblo (Bob-Lo?) boats tethered by the Ford Theater.

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