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Bpjeff
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Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 9:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just heard on the news that Mitt Romney will officially announce his candidacy for president next Tuesday in Detroit. Looks like we will get some more national exposure.
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Bob
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Actually he will announce in Dearborn at Henry Ford Museum.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20070206/U PDATE/702060421
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Lmichigan
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More exactly at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn. Too bad it's for Mitt Romney, though.
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Bpjeff
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Thanks for the clarification. I just heard a blurb on CNN.
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Ventura67
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Republicans can keep their stinking asses out of Detroit anyway.

Let Dearborn have him!
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Detroitej72
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Mitt actually lived in Detroit, in Palmer Woods, in the 50's with his parents. His father was president of AMC Motors before he became gov. of Michigan.
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Gistok
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Oh come on now, he's a republican, so as long as he comes home to his roots, that's OK. Detroit is not voting for him anyway. The Henry Ford is a nice place for him to make that announcement. Good for him, and for the region!

At least he is returning to Michigan. He could easily have made that announcement in Boston, but chose Michigan.
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Lmichigan
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So. Sounds like some are wishing he was still his. He's running as the conservative of the Republican field, so he's not going to get much love from this forum. He really could have made it in Boston for all I care, to be honest. Sentimentality is for anything but politics.

(Message edited by lmichigan on February 07, 2007)
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1953
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I like Romney. He's a moderate and has many of the characteristics required to get elected and be a decent President.
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Irish_mafia
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Good for Romney!

We'll take all the Republicans that want to come.
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The_rock
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Right on the money, ventura. Keep those Republicans out of the city.
Just look what 50+ years of Democrat party administrations have done. The city is in wonderful shape---population is up, excellent schools, safe to walk everywhere, booming neighborhoods,full employment. It just couldn't be better.
Stay away, Mitt. Stay out there in Dearborn. Detroiters have done so well here these last 50 years that new ideas and maybe even a little more responsible government is just not needed.
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Cambrian
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I'd vote for the right repub, some one like Eisenhower. He believed in spending our country's money at home, on infrastructure, not throwing it away on wars.
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Romney is a moderate Republican based on his stances and record. Plus, being otherwise probably wouldn't allow a Republican governor to be elected in a state that continually re-elects 2 of the most liberal senators.

Good to see he hasn't forgotten about Michigan, its a pleasant change from most elected officials (Federal and State) that are in Washington.
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Barnesfoto
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Eisenhower spent money sponsoring coups in places like Guatemala and Iran where elected leaders were overthrown and replaced with puppets.

http://www.iranchamber.com/his tory/coup53/coup53p1.php


Guatemala turned into a 35 year civil war,(where Reagan later funded genocide)

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/N SAEBB/NSAEBB4/index.html

Some of you might be old enough to remember what happened in Tehran in 79 after people tired of the Shah...
Many on this board would argue that spending massive amounts of money to improve our nation's infrastructure, as Eisenhower did with the Interstate system, is socialism.
(but the same folks probably take freeways to save time)

As for Romney, he looks reasonable and moderate compared to our current chimp chief, but then so does a purple-assed baboon.
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Danny
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Mitt Romney couldn't hold a political candle to Hillary R. Clinton. Like I have written to all of you. Any politician who have been the media spotlight before will likely become president.
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Thejesus
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Kinda pointless since Romney's is unelectable because he is a Mormon...too many people think Mormons are crazy (their story is rather silly w/ the whole "Jesus used to hang out with Indians in North America" deal )
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Mackinaw
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Look into Romney's record, people. You might find something you like. He has taken initiatives curb suburban sprawl in Massachussetes, and came up with a universal health care system that won bipartisan acclaim. He also created a scholarship program that provides paid tuition for in-state schools for a certain percentage of top high school students, regardless of what school they went to. How great would that sort of thing be for Detroit Public School students? In a post-proposal 2 Michigan, this is the type of innovation that our state needs to get more minorities into college, legitimately.

Anyway, while all you flaming liberals will cry wolf because of Romney's strong stance against gay marriage, let's remember the fact that the president has the ability to do a lot more when it comes to health care, suburban sprawl, and education than major social issues that require Supreme Court action.

With that said, Romney is my number two choice behind Giuliani.
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Mackinaw
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Thejesus, Mormons scare me, too...but I believe Romney is among a small handful of current candidates to have only had ONE wife. Ironic...
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Thejesus
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Posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 11:24 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol
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Ray1936
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Mormons have a strange religion, based on Joseph Smith finding some golden plates in the woods in upstate New York. Somehow, Joe lost the plates along the way, but wrote a book that started the religion (the Book of Mormon). That aside, those adherents to the LDS today have extremely high family values which I admire greatly. Being an amateur genealogist, I can't thank them enough for their record keeping.

Yes, my family has a Mormon background (gt gt grandma). No, I'm not Mormon. Ain't much of anything, really.
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Lmichigan
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I keep hearing these cries of "look at his record." I have. The guy was once a very moderate Republican, the likes of which have been elected governor of Michigan, before. But, this guy, recently, renounced his former support of things like legalized abortion and civil unions, things Americans are both in support of, as 'mistakes.' He's whored himself out, ironically, to the evangelicals, who aren't going to support him anyway because of his religion. To me, it shows the worst kind of politician. Forget that he's running to the right of John McCain, everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but this guy totally sold himself out, and for what?
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I was just watching the news and Tom Delay thought Romney would probably make a very good conservative candidate - even though he has flipped flopped on issues. Apparently he has become more conservative. Personally I think he is a sell out to Lmichigan.
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Mcp001
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You mean like on an issue like this one?
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Rjk
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You mean Romney has changed some of his positions now that he wants to be president? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. I can't believe a politician would do such a thing.

What next, politicians making promises they don't keep?

(Message edited by rjk on February 08, 2007)
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Anyone who thinks Shrillary Clintonista, will or should become President, needs to seek psych. help.
Her Marxist leanings make Granholm look moderate.
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Hillary Clinton and Marxists leanings. Name one.

*I am not a Clinton fan and will not vote for her if she's nominated. Because she's so right wing.
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Quinn
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Marxists leanings? Uneducated drivel.

Did you know Hillary was a Goldwater Girl growing up? Just because she tried out Universal Healthcare in the 90's and failed doesn't mean she's a socialist. Get over yourself.

I support Hillary 100%. Mitt Romney...is anyone taking him seriously? Please.

Here's a great article that speaks volumes about why Mitt Romney is a no-win candidate (2 main reasons...he's a bigot and a dummy)

Clift: Mitt Romney and Same-Sex Marriage
Mitt Romney is wooing conservatives by opposing gay marriage. It's a strategy that won't get him very far.
WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY
By Eleanor Clift
Newsweek
Updated: 4:01 p.m. ET Nov 24, 2006

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15 880408/site/newsweek/
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If I was a Republican, which I'm not, I might want to rally to someone like Mitt Romney who is not a rightwing ideologue and seems to be clean liver and not tainted by scandal or corruption. I would prefer Romney over McClain and Guiliana who politically tainted and egotists.

Likewise, if I was a Democrat, which I'm not, I would rally to Bill Richardson for having the same personal and poltical qualities as Romney.
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Quinn, this is not a new development at all. He was a vociferous opponent of the court proceedings which went down in Mass. the past few years. To say that he is making shit up as he goes in order to win over voters is a fallacy. The most re-inventive candidate out there is Hilary. We all know the inconsistencies in her voting record.

Back on Romney, who I do not even fully support like I said, no one can refute the good work he did in Mass. in terms of higher education, health care, and suburban sprawl. If he just starts talking about his record, so that he can appeal to moderates, then I think he will succeed. Even you whiny liberals would find some things you would like. Romney as a well-developed candidate would be powerful.
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Why is a Mass. Republican coming to Michigan to announce his candidacy? This is what is very surprising to me. Now I know that someone out there is going to say that his father was governor of Michigan and what not, but what is his real purpose in coming to Michigan? Would he not get more support in Mass? Michigan is not a big state for the primary. Is he trying to show off an 'image'?
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Ray
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He has deep ties and lots of support in Michigan.
He's very moderate and very intelligent. He's got a proven track record at being effective in bi-paritisan politics.

It's kind of wacky to paste they guy as a conservative.... he did win election in Mass.
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Quinn
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Flip flopper Mackinaw? Your boy (and I say that because it seems you have a hankerin' for him) has a history of lying to get elected and misrepresenting himself too when he pandered to Mass repubs in 90's senate campaign:

Romney's record on gays questioned after 1994 letter re-emerges

By David Weber, Associated Press Writer | December 9, 2006

BOSTON --Gov. Mitt Romney's beliefs on gay issues are under scrutiny after the re-emergence of a letter he wrote during his 1994 run for U.S. Senate in which he promised a gay Republicans group he would be a stronger advocate for gays than Sen. Edward Kennedy.

The 1994 letter was written to the Log Cabin Club of Massachusetts, a gay Republican group, when Romney was courting gay voters during his unsuccessful campaign against Kennedy.

Citing Kennedy's record of advocacy for gays and lesbians, Romney wrote, "For some voters, it might be enough to simply match my opponent's record in this area. But I believe we can and must do better. If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will."

http://www.boston.com/news/loc al/massachusetts/articles/2006 /12/09/romneys_record_on_gays_ questioned_after_1994_letter_r e_emerges/

What should scare anyone out there with half a brain is that Romney thinks he can get the Repub nomination NOW by being the only candidate to appeal to "Social Conservatives" aka Religious Right. It says to me he's a smart politician, but not one I want to support in any way.

Mackinaw: "Even you whiny liberals would find some things you would like."

Mackinaw, go ahead and post something he "did," with supporting evidence, and lets talk about that.
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Clinton, Romney...forget about 'em, they don't matter.

Obama for President!
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Jdkeepsmiling
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I'm with you Corvax....
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1953
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If the dems think Clinton or Obama have a prayer of getting elected, I think they've really out of their gourds.
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Carolcb
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My parents and grandparents thought George Romney was great - my grandmother tried to take his green poka-dot tie, a bow tie if I remember, and my parents were basically Democrats - Union 299, the whole deal. You have to remember how good Ford looked two months ago, and he was a Republican as well. I would vote Libertarian before I would ever vote Republican, but one really has to question how could Romney be elected in Massachusetts, probably the most Democrat of states - they have alot in common with Michigan in some ways. Kind of hard to imagine way back when that people were afraid of electing Kennedy but Michigan had a Morman governor.....but I think that just maybe, back in the day everyone didn't have all of the yellow journalism-ish stories of some of the things that some of the Mormans take part in. Just a guess. But no, I would not vote for him..... But you have to give him a star for coming to Dearborn to announce if that is what is really going to happen.
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Carolcb
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1953, Who do you think is going to be elected?
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Thejesus
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"Anyway, while all you flaming liberals will cry wolf because of Romney's strong stance against gay marriage"

Never really understood why people are so concerned w/ what a President thinks about Gay marriage anyways...it's a state issue that the President doesn't get a say in...
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Thejesus
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"If the dems think Clinton or Obama have a prayer of getting elected, I think they've really out of their gourds."

This is so true...I have favorable views of both those candidates, but the fact is they are both unelectable...

It's almost like the dems want to forfeit the election just to make a political statement...
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Thejesus
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"Mitt actually lived in Detroit, in Palmer Woods, in the 50's with his parents. His father was president of AMC Motors before he became gov. of Michigan."

Yep...he also graduated from Cranbrook in Bloomfield Hills...
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Quinn
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In the 90's when it was whispered a certain, close family member of a president was going to run for a prominent political office, almost everyone laughed and thought that a victory for that person was not possible.

George W. Bush = Governor of Texas.

Hillary Clinton = Senator for New York.

Both were thought to be light-weights.

George's chances for winning in the Primaries for president were slim at first (definitely at this stage in the game). And he was seen as being the underdog to the "incumbant" (for all intense and purposes) Al Gore. He won against alot of negative predictions.

You guys and your crystal balls...why do you think Obama and Hillary have no chance in winning?

Take a deep breath and think again. Look at history.

Nobody in their right mind ever though Reagan would be president...in 1966. Nobody ever thought arnold would be Governor...in 2003.
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Which Romney is running? The pro-gay pro-choice candidate who ran against Ted Kennedy and lost, who was also the pro-gay, pro-choice candidate who was governor of Massachusetts, or the one who has lurched to the far right and is now running for President. Flip Flop Flip Flop....
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Quinn
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I don't get how some people think Mitt Romney is Liberal.

He's a social conservative Mormon.

I'm still waiting to hear one great thing Romney did in Mass. from Mackinaw (with evidence now Mack)

A look at the following site reveals a few things Romney has said or believes in:

- Withdrawal from Iraq would be a mistake. (Dec 2006)

- Now firmly pro-life, despite 2002 tolerance for abortion. (Dec 2006)

- Vetoed emergency contraception for rape victims. (Jul 2005)

- Vetoed stem cell research bill. (May 2005)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mit t_Romney.htm

Now you'll see dates with stances/statements...you can see how he's totally moving to the right on most issues. He's courting the Evangelicals that, while a smart political move, is something I can't support.
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Quinn
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I've nearly no religious friends, and, in general, find organized religion not-for-me.

Here's a tidbit/instruction manual produced by the Mormons on "refraining from (a certain bodily function)."

WARNING: Adult Content at this link: http://www.ldolphin.org/mormon .html

Thought it might be interesting reading considering we're talking about Mitt Romney, who would be the first Mormon President (I believe) if elected president.
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Danny
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Quinn,

Did you wrote that Romney opposes Homosexual marriages. That's a NO NO in this homophobic Christian Ideological America. Forget it folks Romney is NOT going to make it pass the August 2008 primaries.
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Quinn
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What?
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Thejesus
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not really sure what Danny is saying, but again, a President's views on gay marriage is not very relevant since it's a state issue that the Prez doesn't get a say in
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Quinn
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You guys must have been asleep for the past 6 years.

"President Calls for Constitutional Amendment Protecting Marriage"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news /releases/2004/02/20040224-2.h tml

We've got a president and, I'll bet, a presidential candidate in Mitt Romney, who would place discrimination back into our constitution.

Quit pussy-footin' around...this is wrong and you know it. State's rights state's schmites...
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Thejesus
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Quinn, I think YOU'VE been asleep since grade school...

the President doesn't get a say in constitutional amendments...all he gets to do is chime in with what he "thinks", same as anyone else...the states decide whether or not to implement constitutional amendments after the congress proposes them...the president is not in any way involved in that process

(Message edited by thejesus on February 13, 2007)
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Thejesus
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For anyone interested, here are some videos of Romney speaking...

On Hannity and Colmes..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MDP ifOZ6j1Y

On O'Reilly Factor

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r4w JhGWMrDs

During his Senatorial Debate with Ted Kennedy

http://youtube.com/watch?v=a9I JUkYUbvI

Speaking before the National Review Institute Conservative Summit

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C7X l86hhGzQ
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Quinn
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Sure he is...he is a national leader who can begin the process. If we've got a charismatic leader who's an as$hat, he can sway public opinion. Doesn't matter if he's part of the actual tools that construct and move the amendment through the process.

Why can't you understand that?

I understand your problem if you believe there should be an amendment to protect straight marriage. Do you Jesus? Did you support proposal 2 here in Michigan?
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Rosedaleken
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"...a President's views on gay marriage is not very relevant since it's a state issue that the Prez doesn't get a say in"


What about the nomination of Supreme Court justices?
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I wonder if Romney will say he was "brainwashed" on Iraq? Perhaps it's a genetic predisposition.
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Thejesus
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"I understand your problem if you believe there should be an amendment to protect straight marriage. Do you Jesus? Did you support proposal 2 here in Michigan?"

I don't have a problem. I'm simply stating that marriage is a state issue. I voted against the amendment to ban gay marriage two years ago because I have no problem with it at all.
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Thejesus
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 1:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"What about the nomination of Supreme Court justices?"

The President doesn't nominate state supreme court justices...only federal...since the gay marriage debate doesn't involve a federal question, this is irrelevant....

Now if you're talking about state sodomy laws, that's another story, although the Supreme Court just rendered any such laws unconstitutional back in 2003...
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 12:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So.... the new scandal is the Jewish people are protesting his speech at the "racist" Henry Ford museum. I guess we should all not buy Ford cars because his granddaddy didn't like Jews? Right?
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 12:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yvette:

I think their opposition is a little extreme, but I can see where they're coming from...

there's a degree of separation between the views held by the current Ford family and Henry Ford himself...especially since the latter is responsible for this...

http://www.amazon.com/Internat ional-Jew-Worlds-Foremost-Prob lem/dp/1593640188/sr=8-1/qid=1 171559806/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002- 9905346-3568022?ie=UTF8&s=book s

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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of Mitt Romney-years ago Engler wanted his brother Scott for Attorney General but the Western Michigan republicans shot it down & substituted a loser John Smietanka and he lost to Jen Jen Granholm. I bet Romney would've won & I'll bet Dick DeVos regrets that one since he, his wife & her crowd pushed Smietanka. Ahhh what coulda been.....Granholm would have probably faded away or blown away like Michigan will be in 5 years!
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 8:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh god forbid he offended a few democrat Jews. Oh lord, call the police! He is such an anti semite now!
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Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, Henry Ford is an anti-semite, and the Jews are just pissed at Romney for honoring him
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 1:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well ole Henry died in 1947.That's a long time ago. Should that stop anyone from going to the Henry Ford Museum of Greenfield Village?
These bozos that raised a stink should get a life

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