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Al_t_publican
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Post Number: 143
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 4:22 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I recently saw this movie, and while I have enjoyed some of Mark Wahlberg's work over the years Four Brothers isn't among it. The shots of Detroit's streets in winter were evocative for the years I spent working throughout the city, but the story struck me as being contrived and forced. The amount of profanity in the movie was the usual marketing geared toward a 16 year olds to mid-twenties audience, excessive to the point of approaching Deadwoodian.

I'm curious if anyone saw a review of Four Brothers in which the reviewer suggested that Wahlberg maybe suffering from wannabeblackitis.

As for the scene at the end of the movie of black kids playing street hockey, I'm not going to say it never happened, but from my experience it seemed awfully contrived. I've seen black kids play baseketball in the street in Detroit in the dead of winter, but hockey seems like a cultural stretch. ( realize there is a ice hockey organization for kids in Detroit.)

Four Brothers also didn't do the image of Detroit any favors. Did this movie get any assistance from the mayor's office?

What sort of reviews did this movie get from the Detroit papers and the likes of Metro Times. I'm seem to recall the LA Times giving it a favorable review.

Instead of thumbs down on Four Brothers, I might give it seven of ten digits down.

Memo to Mark Wahlberg: Sitting on a toilet in the midst of a dialogue isn't humorous. It isn't even Felliniesque.
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Supersport
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Post Number: 11223
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 4:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't believe it was even filmed here to be honest. I own it on DVD, I'll give it another watch some time and pay closer attention. 7 out of 10 may be a bit of a stretch. I'd say 5, maybe 6 if I were in a good mood. Just an average movie that was supposed to have taken place in Detroit, much like Precinct 13.

My personal favs are Funk Brothers, thought a documentary, and True Romance. Another movie with some shots of Detroit, though I believe filmed elsewhere, which was really good was Narc. They used a special film technique that really gives Detroit the gray dree=ary feeling the city often possesses.
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Valkyrias
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Post Number: 434
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 4:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i do recall hearing that some of it was filmed here, although it was mostly filmed in canada.

http://imdb.com/title/tt043010 5/locations
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Jt1
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 4:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Narc asked for permission to film some shots in the city . The city refused because they didn't want another movie about drugs/crooked police in the city. The makers of Narc shot the scenes that are in Detroit illegally.
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Al_t_publican
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Post Number: 145
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 5:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There were a number of Detroit scenes in Four Brothers such as the Mich Central train station. If the neighborhood shots were done elsewhere, they found some that looked a helluva lot like Detroit.

Memo to Supersport: My seven digits down is a negative grade, not a positive one.

Anyone remember a movie called The Outsider about a Detroiter who goes to Northern Ireland and gets mixed up with the IRA? It came out in the early '80s, I think.
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Iheartthed
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 5:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not to mention that is was inaccurate. I believe they continuously referred to Highland Park as a neighborhood and not it's own city.
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Blort
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 5:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This movie has nothing on RoboCop.

Singleton's best movie is still Boyz N' The Hood.
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Pinewood73
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 5:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a hard time pretending that the movie took place in Detroit having been familiar with housing architecture in Toronto
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Blort
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 5:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually I think a main portion of the movie took place in Highland Park, the housing complex and such. Same thing though.
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Aiw
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 5:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

If the neighborhood shots were done elsewhere, they found some that looked a helluva lot like Detroit.



Welcome to Hamilton, the closest thing looks wise to Detroit in Ontario.
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Al_t_publican
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Post Number: 146
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 5:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was reference to a "102nd St" which doesn't exist in Detroit. Arthur Haley in his '70s book Wheels had similar inaccuracies, but not many.

I've stayed in the Beach neighborhood of SE Toronto out on the Queen St. East streetcar line. I don't think the Beach in Toronto would pass well for Detroit. There are working class neighborhoods in Windsor and Toronto that can pass for some areas of Detroit, though the neighborhood scenes in Brothers reminded me more of Hamtramck than DET.

I'm wondering if the scene shot on the lake toward the end of Brothers may have been shot on Lake Simcoe north of Toronto as it looked quite isolated. Anchor Bay is the only place near Detroit where it could have been shot.

Bottomline, it was a lousy movie.
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56packman
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 5:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All of those movies shot in Canada have one problem:when they are supposed to be in the ghetto, it's too nice an area. The art director spreads around some trash and it's still too nice. Look at "the Man" (and countless others)
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Ohudson
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 6:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought Four Brothers was filmed in Kansas City.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 7:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I'm curious if anyone saw a review of Four Brothers in which the reviewer suggested that Wahlberg maybe suffering from wannabeblackitis."

Umm, you DO remember Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, right?
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Carm
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Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 9:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anything has to be better than that Steven Segal movie Exit Wounds. A big deal is made that it is Detroit and there is not one single shot of Detroit to be seen anywhere. Gotta love the Vice President leaving Detroit to go to Canada via the Belle Isle Bridge.
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Focusonthed
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Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 2:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Four Brothers was mostly filmed in Toronto and other Ontario locations. The opening sequence showcasing areas that are uniquely Detroit is the only sequence shot in Detroit.
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Mayor_sekou
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Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 3:22 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

4 brothers is not as bad as assault on Precinct 13. That was terrible. The 13th precinct is on Woodward near WSU but in the movie it was in some remote wooded area, which I found hilarious more so than its ridiculous plot. I guess film producers are out to make money not to be accurate so this should be expected.
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Supersport
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Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 9:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quote:

Umm, you DO remember Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, right?



Donnie D's on the back up
Drug free, so put the crack up
No need for speed
I'm the anti D-R-U-G-G-I-E my
Body is healthy
My rhymes make me wealthy
And the Funky Bunch helps me
To bring you a show with no intoxication
Come on feel the vibration!



Am I the only one that has this on tape or what?

http://profile.imeem.com/9L1xW 1/music/h3cVLoJz/good_vibratio n/
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Queensfinest
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Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 10:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One of the most horrendous yet hysterical parts of Assault on Precinct 13 was listening to Drea de Matteo (Adrianna from The Sopranos)attempt to speak in a stereotypical thick Michigan accent. Anyone else amused by this?
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Queensfinest
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Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 10:36 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Before someone points it out. It's dialect, I know, not accent...
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Oldredfordette
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Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 11:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Best movie filmed in Detroit is Out of Sight. With the delicious George Clooney.
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Johnlodge
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Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 11:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oldredfordette, I loved that movie! But was that really the interior of the State Theater? It didn't quite look right to me. But most of that footage was really cool.
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Jdkeepsmiling
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Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is the movie about a car engine staring Jay Leno?
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Oldredfordette
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Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 12:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it was. I know a lot of guys who worked on it, they filmed almost all the Detroit stuff in Detroit.

They said that Clooney and Steve Zahn were great guys, and that JLo had, ahem, a very high opinion of herself.
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Gambling_man
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Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 7:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Funny enough, if you watch Out of Sight, when they say that they are going to the alley behind the State, they actually go behind the State and shoot the next scene.....interesting, and pre-Town Pump........
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 2:01 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Al, funny, plenty o kids regardless of color would play hockey in the street where I grew up. It was never seen as anything odd. What was odd? Kids playing hockey in leagues on ice! None of us had money for that $hit, but a tennis ball and sticks was cheap fun.
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Detrola
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 9:33 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Narc shot in detroit for one day. I would not say that the shoot was illegal. The DPD did provide a escort who was present throughout the entire day. The mayor's office may not have officially signed of on the shoot. Someone, however assigned the DPD escort.

Specific permits were not pulled because the cast and crew were minimal, the set ups small etc. Most locations were chosen spur of the moment. The 4th precinct exterior was chosen after several other precincts were deemed "too modern".

The car engine movie with Jay Leno was Collision Course. It was shot nearly entirely in detroit during the summer of 1987.
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65memories
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 10:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Best movie shot in Detroit: "Scarecrow" with Pacino and Hackman, 1973
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Patrick
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 10:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marky Mark??? I remember years ago he and Eminem were on TRL together and Eminem kept ripping on him about the Funky Fresh days. Marky Mark was about to through his ass out the window.
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Stryker81
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 1:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey don't forget Marky Marks version of Take a Walk on the Wild Side either!

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